Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

BigOleNugs19

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The end game for me is to basically have a perpetual grow. We have a 24 plant limit at the house. Which I feel is more than enough. I think its manageable to rotate 3 sets of 6 pots in and out of flower, while vegging 6. That would be more than enough bud. Wife and I are daily smokers, so we would like to have a good keep around the house. Wife really needs a nice bedtime strain.. she struggles with sleep. Badly! This would provide us with our smoke and the other stuff... get rid of it, make oil, edibles.
When you say you have a 24 plant limit, do you and the wife each have your own med card? I wanna make sure because the law is 12 plants per household for rec, not per adult. And you can add medical plant count to your rec count. What I mean is if you have a medical card, you cant add another 12 plants for recreation. Only way you qualify for 24 is two med cards.
 

Moabfighter

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Rookie grower completely dismissing soil lol......

Best of luck man. Steep learning curve for water grow when you can’t do soil but maybe that’s just me.

I don’t run other stuff so I won’t be able to help you unfortunately. Good luck!!
 

GreenMitten

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When you say you have a 24 plant limit, do you and the wife each have your own med card? I wanna make sure because the law is 12 plants per household for rec, not per adult. And you can add medical plant count to your rec count. What I mean is if you have a medical card, you cant add another 12 plants for recreation. Only way you qualify for 24 is two med cards.
Thank you for being clear on the Nugs... yes the wife and I both are medical. I think its important that anyone reading this from MI is clear on that. You really don't need or want that kind of trouble. They are letting us grow now, so lets play ball and do this right.
 

BigOleNugs19

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Thanks Ice. I think I'm past doing just flat out soil. Its going to be hempy/dwc for me going forward. Maybe like you said maybe I can run them together and see what I like best. Are you guys basically all doing a simple feeding program with nutes? Trying to learn that online has been a real treat. $20 stuff clear up to hundreds of dollars. The more I'm reading, the more I feel like I wasted money on an AN bundle.
I use AN with good success. Not a waste of money, but I will move to something cheaper down the line
 

BigOleNugs19

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Thank you for being clear on the Nugs... yes the wife and I both are medical. I think its important that anyone reading this from MI is clear on that. You really don't need or want that kind of trouble. They are letting us grow now, so lets play ball and do this right.
Bet! Thats awesome man. Damn right, no need to break any laws, we have the best in the world...
 

GreenMitten

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Rookie grower completely dismissing soil lol......

Best of luck man. Steep learning curve for water grow when you can’t do soil but maybe that’s just me.

I don’t run other stuff so I won’t be able to help you unfortunately. Good luck!!
Moab. I can grow in soil and did so already. I also grew in Hydro. 2 different grows. If my end game is do do hydro, why would I keep learning soil? I guess if there is a benefit to keeping soil going while doing hydro is a benefit? I'm all ears if it is.
 

GreenMitten

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moab man, you're judging awfully hard, he's clearly asking for help.
Its all good. He just has an opinion. I can grow plants both ways... I've done it. all be it once each. The hyrdo was more learning, and I'm sure it was far from perfect... but its kept me and wife baked for a few months. LOL. Its fine, I knew there would be a few people that think I'm an idiot. You can't expect to get on the internet and not have a little of that.
 

schmebulock

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Its all good. He just has an opinion. I can grow plants both ways... I've done it. all be it once each. The hyrdo was more learning, and I'm sure it was far from perfect... but its kept me and wife baked for a few months. LOL. Its fine, I knew there would be a few people that think I'm an idiot. You can't expect to get on the internet and not have a little of that.
weird to see an adult on the internet lol
 

schmebulock

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I don't have kids at home to teach me differently LOL
so in regards to DWC if that's what you're asking - you can do it cheap to start

dark 5 gallon bucket (not white/see through - roots need protection from light) and lid
net pot (3" would work)
air pump + air stone in bucket

That's really about it... but i highly recommend getting this -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QVLQHAO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

when you need to drain or fill the bucket - this thing is amazing and it has an overflow stop like a gas pump

put the air pump into the side of the bucket so the lid is free to move - you can do this by heating up a screwdriver and just pushing through the plastic for your air tube to pass through
 

GreenMitten

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Thanks Schmebulock... I do have most of that at home already. 980 gph air pumps x 2. manifold on them have 8 lines each. It was a little over kill, but I was told to always have a back up ready. That seemed like sound reasoning to me. Do you prefer the buckets or totes? The ones I made were 5 gallon HDX totes. I love that little pump you just posted... that SOB would have come in handy... LOL. I was mixing a new tote of nutes, and then just lifting off the feeding pot onto the new mix of water. Worked well until my plants took off like mad. Then lifting them off wasn't really a great option anymore. That was a glaring oversight I didn't catch, wont' happen again.
 

BigOleNugs19

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so in regards to DWC if that's what you're asking - you can do it cheap to start

dark 5 gallon bucket (not white/see through - roots need protection from light) and lid
net pot (3" would work)
air pump + air stone in bucket

That's really about it... but i highly recommend getting this -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QVLQHAO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

when you need to drain or fill the bucket - this thing is amazing and it has an overflow stop like a gas pump

put the air pump into the side of the bucket so the lid is free to move - you can do this by heating up a screwdriver and just pushing through the plastic for your air tube to pass through
I totally just put one of those in my cart. Good look Schmeb.
 

Moabfighter

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No one said you were an idiot man. Check this out. It’s easy to toss a few arm loads of dirt in a pot, water, and see GREAT results. That’s all I’m trying to get at. Dirt is cheap and easy and rookie friendly. You can’t leave hydro for a day and it be okay. You can leave soil for days, go on vacation, come back and water, and STILL get great buds.

If you can spend day in with the hydro, Great, if you can grow great plants, while learning great. You asked for pretty much “how do I easily pull this off” and I gave my opinion how to do it very easy. Low risk low maintenance. I have two soil plants taking up over half a 4x4 in one gallon pots...... didn’t even open my tent yesterday. Probably won’t open it today. It’s fine. If you are looking for chill and relax grow, I personally enjoy soil man!
 

Moabfighter

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so in regards to DWC if that's what you're asking - you can do it cheap to start

dark 5 gallon bucket (not white/see through - roots need protection from light) and lid
net pot (3" would work)
air pump + air stone in bucket

That's really about it... but i highly recommend getting this -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QVLQHAO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

when you need to drain or fill the bucket - this thing is amazing and it has an overflow stop like a gas pump

put the air pump into the side of the bucket so the lid is free to move - you can do this by heating up a screwdriver and just pushing through the plastic for your air tube to pass through
Hey man why does the grow shops sell small black buckets. Are straight up those no good for weed or what? People growing other veggies in the smaller black buckets or? I like the idea of the small ones and wanted to buy some today actually. But if they’re simply not going to cut it please tell me. Thanks.

Edit 3M didn’t you say your tea bags made the hydro almost walk alwaybable?? I personally just don’t have time to maintain DWC 24/7. I work about 60 hours a week and I go to work every single day they let me. I’m working now and it’s saturday.... today’s my catch up my plants day and look I’m stuck working. I have hangups like this where I can’t fully commit to Adwc. Gotta eat sleep and be a dad too ya know
 

GreenMitten

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No one said you were an idiot man. Check this out. It’s easy to toss a few arm loads of dirt in a pot, water, and see GREAT results. That’s all I’m trying to get at. Dirt is cheap and easy and rookie friendly. You can’t leave hydro for a day and it be okay. You can leave soil for days, go on vacation, come back and water, and STILL get great buds.

If you can spend day in with the hydro, Great, if you can grow great plants, while learning great. You asked for pretty much “how do I easily pull this off” and I gave my opinion how to do it very easy. Low risk low maintenance. I have two soil plants taking up over half a 4x4 in one gallon pots...... didn’t even open my tent yesterday. Probably won’t open it today. It’s fine. If you are looking for chill and relax grow, I personally enjoy soil man!
I must of read you wrong. Nonetheless, my skin is tough. So no hard feelings. I've completed 2 grows, and I do see a benefit to both. My small amount of experience between the 2, hydro just grew bigger and quicker with a lot more action on the bud. trichomes and resin. I have the basics of those two down, but much past that I'm green. Plaint training, plant reading and stuff like that. Does that make sense? I've learned pants are pretty resilient, but acknowledge there is a finer art and touch to this that a lot of you have. I can not kill plants, so I'm basically on to learning the basics of building a working a plant to its potential. Know what I mean?
 

Moabfighter

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I must of read you wrong. Nonetheless, my skin is tough. So no hard feelings. I've completed 2 grows, and I do see a benefit to both. My small amount of experience between the 2, hydro just grew bigger and quicker with a lot more action on the bud. trichomes and resin. I have the basics of those two down, but much past that I'm green. Plaint training, plant reading and stuff like that. Does that make sense? I've learned pants are pretty resilient, but acknowledge there is a finer art and touch to this that a lot of you have. I can not kill plants, so I'm basically on to learning the basics of building a working a plant to its potential. Know what I mean?
You’re fine man. No hard feelings and i hope you have none back. Trust me when I say the feeling of failing when you try too hard sucks. I do it. I see others do it and get frustrated. Keep it simple man. What if you spend a million on let’s just say a RDWC setup, and you suck balls at it.... hey man it happens. I tried hard at DWC well the best I could and it tanked. I know you said you had some stuff cool. It sounds like you already have a plan in your head what you’re going to do, so I suggest watching closely to iceman and smokebreak and schmebulluck and third monkey especially and bigolenugs. They’re all doing water grows so. Holla at them. Wish I could help more with a hydro plan but as I said I just could not nail it for whatever reasons. Trying again but man..... I’m not betting my yields on this DWC. That’s why I do soil. It’s easy and I know it will produce. I hope you have better luck with the DWC than me. A lot of reading to be had on DWC.

I like lollipop plus LST technique. Others in here mainline and manifold. Some defoliate. I don’t do much leaf clipping personally. I open the middle up. Pulls mains to side of pot.
 
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