Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

schmebulock

schmebulock

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3rd Monkey said:
That bonded junk isn't hurting anything. You can't even see it, so it's not taking up much space.

You can ditch it or you can calculate it into final ppm. Whichever is easier for the grower to manipulate. Personally, I don't res swap unless I have to because of the ecosystem I build in there and it would just be wasteful.

I don't think @iceman2494 swaps either.
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so at the very minimum, 1 res change between veg to flower and that's it?
 
schmebulock

schmebulock

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3rd Monkey said:
Very minimum, no change at all. Top off with fresh, feed it down, bump bloom nutes.
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Feed it down? So when I fed the plant 1300 4 days ago and it came back 1150, then 1100, then 980 - is that feeding it down?

when do I decide to bump ppm back up? end of the week? could I just say monday of each week is the feed day on the bucket and then the rest of the week i'm just topping off the reservoir?
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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schmebulock said:
Feed it down? So when I fed the plant 1300 4 days ago and it came back 1150, then 1100, then 980 - is that feeding it down?

when do I decide to bump ppm back up? end of the week? could I just say monday of each week is the feed day on the bucket and then the rest of the week i'm just topping off the reservoir?
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Yea, that's feeding down. I thought you were just topping off with fresh and reloading when it bottoms out? Maybe that was smoke, but I thought we talked about it. My bad.

You just want to let the feed drop down til it almost stops dropping completely. There's a taper. That could be 3 days from now, that could be a week. I believe you're using RO, so once you hit 300-100, she should start to stall.

If you wind up with deficiencies on your way down to bottoming out, write it down, so when you reload, you can bump that element up and only that element. That's how you dial in without too much collateral because you can always bump as it's bottoming to adjust the deficiency before it's a deficiency.
 
3rd Monkey

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Once again, I don't grow traditionally, so this will conflict just about every other hydro method out there, so don't get confused by that.
 
schmebulock

schmebulock

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3rd Monkey said:
Yea, that's feeding down. I thought you were just topping off with fresh and reloading when it bottoms out? Maybe that was smoke, but I thought we talked about it. My bad.

You just want to let the feed drop down til it almost stops dropping completely. There's a taper. That could be 3 days from now, that could be a week. I believe you're using RO, so once you hit 300-100, she should start to stall.

If you wind up with deficiencies on your way down to bottoming out, write it down, so when you reload, you can bump that element up and only that element. That's how you dial in without too much collateral because you can always bump as it's bottoming to adjust the deficiency before it's a deficiency.
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so is it normal to see a plant consume 150-200 ppm a day? i was dropping from 1300 to 1150 to 1120 to 980 (i think the middle one had only 30 ppm drop but it dropped 140 the next day)

3rd Monkey said:
Once again, I don't grow traditionally, so this will conflict just about every other hydro method out there, so don't get confused by that.
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no worries - trying to understand how to handle what i'm looking at when i pull the bucket open.

on that note - if you'll recall i made a pizza slice in the lid for access - what did you end up doing again?

sealable grommet?
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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schmebulock said:
so is it normal to see a plant consume 150-200 ppm a day? i was dropping from 1300 to 1150 to 1120 to 980 (i think the middle one had only 30 ppm drop but it dropped 140 the next day)



no worries - trying to understand how to handle what i'm looking at when i pull the bucket open.

on that note - if you'll recall i made a pizza slice in the lid for access - what did you end up doing again?

sealable grommet?
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In heavy flower, yea it's possible. Some feed lighter, some feed heavier, but depends on plant size too. Fat kids gotta eat!

I just lift my lid to top off.
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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The majority of your trace elements show up in new growth. Same with calcium.

The majority of your macronutrients show up on lower growth. Same with magnesium.

The rest is just knowing what to look for next. Experience and repitition are your saving graces.
 
iceman2494

iceman2494

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Mine I’ll bump up to 400 after it bottoms out and it’ll take a large chunk like 100 ppm . Then next reading it’ll be a normal 20-30 a day
 
Smokexbreak

Smokexbreak

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schmebulock said:
This is what i'm going to try next grow - this is what people are swearing by (from growweedeasy.com)

too many people said Lucas Formula had nitrogen deficiencies in flower because the ratio was too low when you are using heavy lights (like quantum boards)

I will still include GFF, Hydroguard, Mammoth P, rapidstart in 1mL increments

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I’m using this feeding schedule as we speak. I switched to it when I was having issues and it got me back on track and has kept my plants healthy ever since I highly recommend giving it a try
 
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