What's the Difference between Haze, Diesel, Kush?

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suTraGrow

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stonedmetalhead1 said:
If you had been paying attention for the last 20 years you would know that the G13 cut around today is highly suspect and probably a worked version that people are calling pure G13 so they can charge idiots $25,000 for a cut.
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ok um yesss and? Still doesnt change the fact that some idiot did buy it for 25grand tho :) which is the only point im making nothing else.

Sooo besides criticizing me and trying to start a e fight lol learn how to read :-D and you'll see i wasn't making any other point ;-)
 
stonedmetalhead1

stonedmetalhead1

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suTraGrow said:
try 25grand for a original cut of g13. .
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My bad, it sounded like you were saying the original G13 cut still existed which I'm still pretty sure you did. People do a lot of stupid things, just because it had a ridiculous price tag doesn't make it the original. I don't think the problem is my reading skills but rather your writing skills. Did you read your post?

suTraGrow said:
Umm just because you dont know anybody and got zero connects doesn't mean pure strains aren't out there. Bets you if youy spend more then that 5 10$ a seed youl get some pure strains. try 25grand for a original cut of g13. Dont believe me do some research :).
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That statement pretty much sounded like you were trying to say that pure G13 was still around. I don't see how you could take it any other way.
 
dirtyshawa

dirtyshawa

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stonedmetalhead1 said:
Sour Diesel - Sour D is just a hybrid. Original Sour D is Chemdog x ?????. There is much speculation on what the chemdog got hit with to produce the Sour D because it was an accident and no one really knows.
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no speculation ecsd ('91 Chemdawg x Mass Super Skunk/NL)x DNL after the DNL hermed and seeded the room. The DNL's lineage is NL/Shiva x Hawaiian.
 
dirtyshawa

dirtyshawa

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Originally posted by JJ-NYC
Let me give everyone a history lesson about the Diesel. The Chem Dawg was a unknown indica strain (Kush, HP, or NL?) old school, from Colorado. (Does anyone know what strain or its origin?)This is the original NYC DIESEL. Two friends met on Dead tour. A pound of Chem was mailed to Mass. around 93-94.Seeds were found and started. My friend met Mass.G. at Phish tour 93-94. Clones of the Chem Dawg and Super Skunk made their way to NYC. With no male, The Weasel crossed a Sensi NL male with the Super Skunk. Took a male and crossed it with the Chem Dawg creating the Underdawg Diesel or (Diesel no.1, Headband Diesel, or Daywrecker Diesel). Another strain in his room the DNL NL/Shiva(RFK)/Hawaiian cross) self seeded the Under Dawg a seed was grown and The Sour Diesel was created, no planned breeding, it just happened. This is the Diesel gospel. Everything else is BS including soma (who the fuck is soma?) I challenge anyone who questions this fact, for I have been involved with the Diesel since it came to NYC.
 
stonedmetalhead1

stonedmetalhead1

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dirtyshawa said:
Originally posted by JJ-NYC
Let me give everyone a history lesson about the Diesel. The Chem Dawg was a unknown indica strain (Kush, HP, or NL?) old school, from Colorado. (Does anyone know what strain or its origin?)This is the original NYC DIESEL. Two friends met on Dead tour. A pound of Chem was mailed to Mass. around 93-94.Seeds were found and started. My friend met Mass.G. at Phish tour 93-94. Clones of the Chem Dawg and Super Skunk made their way to NYC. With no male, The Weasel crossed a Sensi NL male with the Super Skunk. Took a male and crossed it with the Chem Dawg creating the Underdawg Diesel or (Diesel no.1, Headband Diesel, or Daywrecker Diesel). Another strain in his room the DNL NL/Shiva(RFK)/Hawaiian cross) self seeded the Under Dawg a seed was grown and The Sour Diesel was created, no planned breeding, it just happened. This is the Diesel gospel. Everything else is BS including soma (who the fuck is soma?) I challenge anyone who questions this fact, for I have been involved with the Diesel since it came to NYC.
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All speculation........................... they don't know.


04-17-2010, 03:59 AM #125 (permalink) JJ-NYC
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Yes that is correct. I have never claimed that the Mass Super Skunk was in the Sour Diesel. Chemdog did, thinking the Sour came out of his room but that's definitely not the case. The story on the genetics have changed a few times after getting the story from the real sources. No one really knows the real lineage of the Sour Diesel because it was not planned. But after talking with the couple of people that were responsible I have concluded that there was never any "Shiva" or Super Skunk in the mix. It was skunk bag seed that was found at a Dead show at RFK that was mixed with Hawaiian and NL pollen. I think the real lineage goes like this. RFK Skunk/Hawaiian X NL. I think that the Hawaiian and NL came from early 90's-late 80's Sensi Seed stock.
It was first thought it was Underdawg(91 Chem X SS/NL) X DNL.
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stonedmetalhead1

stonedmetalhead1

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Right on, I wasn't trying to argue with you. There is just so much speculation today because of the illegality and lack of documentation that I can see where people can become confused. I just wish they would legalize it already so we can get some real documentation started to prevent people from being ripped off and actually have an understanding of what they're growing. Too many people are just out to make a buck.
 
dirtyshawa

dirtyshawa

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Dig. I know jj I a reputable source for this info so, I can't argue with that. He thinks it's 91 x dnl now so, who really knows. What's crazy is the diesel comes from a grateful dead concert as well. Maybe I read it wrong but, the diesel in the dnl came from a dead concert just like chemdog. This is the biggest bunch of bullshit ever but, it's definitely some dank and unique herb. Not the best I've had but, unique none the less.
 
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LordWinter

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stonedmetalhead1 said:
My bad, it sounded like you were saying the original G13 cut still existed which I'm still pretty sure you did. People do a lot of stupid things, just because it had a ridiculous price tag doesn't make it the original. I don't think the problem is my reading skills but rather your writing skills. Did you read your post?



That statement pretty much sounded like you were trying to say that pure G13 was still around. I don't see how you could take it any other way.
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Bad thing about the internet is that this damn text loses all the intended expression once you type it. Sarcasm is too often missed in the world of text chats and online forums.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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As an "enthusiast" I care about strain lineage, but pretty much everyone I know who smokes it doesn't know or care what they smoke. They're just smoking "weed". I don't even smoke and I like to know the strain and history!

I feel like I need to know exact history before breeding, but the real world tells me that isn't important enough to stop a questionable strain from being viable.
 
Greenthumbs 917

Greenthumbs 917

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stonedmetalhead1 said:
There is plenty of proof if you do your research. I'm not lecturing you I'm just telling you the truth. Who is it that you think has the original Haze because it's not Seedsman, Reeferman, Tom Hill, or the Flying Dutchman they all have worked hybrids. The closest thing you are going to find to a pure Haze line is Nevil's Haze which is a 3/4 Haze.
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I agree with you bro. Kids wanna act all knowledgeable and the guys get their pussy all hurt and feel the need to be a bitch on here. I'm w you bro. There are no Pure, 100% or Original of anything. Haze..diese..kush. they've all been bred out. Do you kids know how old the cannabis plant is? To have a pure strain. That's hilarious. Think the apple you're eating is a pure strain?
 
2WorldsFrog

2WorldsFrog

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All I know is people should either smoke a Haze, Diesel, or Kush before posting. The conversations would probably be a little lighter, maybe not 100% original, but lighter at least bongsmilie :peace:
 
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