What else should I add?

[Mooncat]

Hey guys, so I have some foot tall plants in 5 gallon pots. I'm currently using tea twice a week from a few cups of alaskan humus, worm castings, molasses, fish hydrolysate, and a little kelp powder watered well into the pots as well as a 7-7-2 blend made from seabird guano, fishbone meal, feather meal, sulfate of potash, volcanic ash, and alfalfa meal. The only other thing I'll be adding is bat guano so I'm wondering if there's something else I should be adding. What do you think?

 

[SuperNutz]

What's your calcium and magnesium plan? Some of those have traces but keep an eye on that. Epsom salt for magnesium is PH neutral but calcium sources bring PH up.

 

[ganga gurl420]

That is why I like sea bird guano... not only high in phosphorus but in calcium as well. For magnesium and sulfur I would just water with Epsom salt

 

[Rainbow Warrior]

Hey guys, so I have some foot tall plants in 5 gallon pots. I'm currently using tea twice a week from a few cups of alaskan humus, worm castings, molasses, fish hydrolysate, and a little kelp powder watered well into the pots as well as a 7-7-2 blend made from seabird guano, fishbone meal, feather meal, sulfate of potash, volcanic ash, and alfalfa meal. The only other thing I'll be adding is bat guano so I'm wondering if there's something else I should be adding. What do you think?

Jeez , u sure u have enough ingredients?

 

[Mooncat]

Jeez , u sure u have enough ingredients?

Lmfao, no not really. The list is actually bigger from the vermi-compost garden blend I got from an earthworm factory but most of it is all a dry or liquid mix.

 

[Mooncat]

What's your calcium and magnesium plan? Some of those have traces but keep an eye on that. Epsom salt for magnesium is PH neutral but calcium sources bring PH up.

My neighbor has some azomite he'll spot me.

 

[Rainbow Warrior]

Lmfao, no not really. The list is actually bigger from the vermi-compost garden blend I got from an earthworm factory but most of it is all a dry or liquid mix.

U must be a Botanist for sure, or a Biology professor .

Enough of pulling ur leg (I can’t help it-give me a smoke and the bad jokes just flow like water).

U haven’t got nettle and comfrey tea on your list. It’s pretty much the only thing I use (I’m a vegetarian so all the fish and bonemeal nutes are a no no for me.

I ferment the tea naturally, it stinks so bad you can smell it a mile off

I feed my plants once a week

Currently trying to bring a plant back with nettle tea; see how that goes...

Generally though, when I have it, I don’t use anything else, apart from plant based nutes, when I have no tea...

 

[FresnoFarmer]

U must be a Botanist for sure, or a Biology professor .

Enough of pulling ur leg (I can’t help it-give me a smoke and the bad jokes just flow like water).

U haven’t got nettle and comfrey tea on your list. It’s pretty much the only thing I use (I’m a vegetarian so all the fish and bonemeal nutes are a no no for me.

I ferment the tea naturally, it stinks so bad you can smell it a mile off

I feed my plants once a week

Currently trying to bring a plant back with nettle tea; see how that goes...

Generally though, when I have it, I don’t use anything else, apart from plant based nutes, when I have no tea...

Where do you source the nettle and comfrey?

 

[Rainbow Warrior]

Where do you source the nettle and comfrey?

Fortunate to have a massive garden, got tons of ‚em....
As 4 the comfrey-Apart from smoking, I’m into companion planting for weed and veg (there’s a joke there somewhere).

I think they now do it in powder form, not sure how good that is.

Plain nettle is also cool; I use it in soil as well as foliar in veg

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/herbs/nettle/nettle-as-fertilizer.htm

 

[Mooncat]

Where do you source the nettle and comfrey?

So you know when you go to a store and you see bulk herbs in jars? That's where, also lots of health/vitamin places or whatever have that and the like. Oh hey your from Fresno, I'd say go to this chinese herb shop in downtown by the stadium but I think they moved. I used to buy nettle for muscle pain from The Brass Unicorn in Tower District all the time. They have comfrey as well, they're on Van Ness. I used to live in downtown.

 

[topcat]

Don't over-think it. KISS...Keep it simple, stupid. Not saying you, or I, am stupid, just dumb it down. Growing ain't that hard.

 

[Imaginathan]

I can’t say I agree about the amount of items in your soil list, I too tend to whole ass my hobbies . I’m pretty sure with fish hydrolysate you are only using maybe twice a month, that’s what I’ve read if your soil is fully amended like that. Also a little bit of gypsum won’t hurt for extra calcium, don’t overdo it though as is with all those ingredients. Still very easy and possible to lock out nutrients with organic grows.

The only other thing I would suggest is getting some barley or type of cheap seeds you can sprout and dry and make malted barley powder or chop up to put in your tease, good for enzymes. Love that TLO life baby!! Good look dude

 

[Imaginathan]

So you know when you go to a store and you see bulk herbs in jars? That's where, also lots of health/vitamin places or whatever have that and the like. Oh hey your from Fresno, I'd say go to this chinese herb shop in downtown by the stadium but I think they moved. I used to buy nettle for muscle pain from The Brass Unicorn in Tower District all the time. They have comfrey as well, they're on Van Ness. I used to live in downtown.

I like your idea about trying Chinese markets, small town hippie stores have them but they are priced like gold. Thanks!

 

[Mooncat]

Don't over-think it. KISS...Keep it simple, stupid. Not saying you, or I, am stupid, just dumb it down. Growing ain't that hard.

Ya really, I used the exact same stuff last year and I had veteran smokers tell me it's the best they've ever smoked so I won't be doing much else aside from making sure they're getting necessaries proper care/maintenance.

 

[waterproof808]

Are your plants telling you they need something? Its not the best idea to just blindly add stuff to your soil without knowing what your soil or plants are actually lacking. More is not always better.

 

[Mooncat]

I can’t say I agree about the amount of items in your soil list, I too tend to whole ass my hobbies . I’m pretty sure with fish hydrolysate you are only using maybe twice a month, that’s what I’ve read if your soil is fully amended like that. Also a little bit of gypsum won’t hurt for extra calcium, don’t overdo it though as is with all those ingredients. Still very easy and possible to lock out nutrients with organic grows.

The only other thing I would suggest is getting some barley or type of cheap seeds you can sprout and dry and make malted barley powder or chop up to put in your tease, good for enzymes. Love that TLO life baby!! Good look dude

What about rye? I have some seeds.

 

[Imaginathan]

What about rye? I have some seeds.

I don’t see why not, I think enzymes are the main focus , esp since that’s a grain. I usually sprout a bunch, half I blend up to go in an SST and half I bake in the oven on low as possible and then blend up the malted powder to top dress with.

 

[Mooncat]

Are your plants telling you they need something? Its not the best idea to just blindly add stuff to your soil without knowing what your soil or plants are actually lacking. More is not always better.

No actually, they look great. I've been real careful about adding fertilizer by starting with very little and then adding more a few weeks later. I'm looking at testing the soil now aside from just ph.