Thug pug genetics anyone?

Dividedsky

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PBB deff blowing up. Im on east coast too. Isnt gromer from the east coast also. Thug Pug gna b the staple of the east lol.
Nice. Don't know much about him, I just figured he was a west coast cat. Props if he's from the east. You know sour dez/chemdawg came from the east if I'm not mistaken. There's old lore about how it came from seeds that were found in few zips/quap purchased at a dead show. Also heard it was a phish show. Haha. I believe the seeds were brought back to MA and grown out. I think in the Amherst area. Anyone feel free to chime in and correct me if I'm wrong about a few details. Think what I'm talking about is the chem story...who the fuck knows!!! Haha
 

loop718

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Nice. Don't know much about him, I just figured he was a west coast cat. Props if he's from the east. You know sour dez/chemdawg came from the east if I'm not mistaken. There's old lore about how it came from seeds that were found in few zips/quap purchased at a dead show. Also heard it was a phish show. Haha. I believe the seeds were brought back to MA and grown out. I think in the Amherst area. Anyone feel free to chime in and correct me if I'm wrong about a few details. Think what I'm talking about is the chem story...who the fuck knows!!! Haha
The folklore goes is the dude chemdog found chemdog in bagseeds at a dead concert in nyc. Yes there all from the eastcoast. JJ from topdawg is tight with chemdog and so is pbudmike there all on ig these days. Sour Diesel has so many different claims and stories it was deff birthed from chem and so was og kush. If you ever have a really gassy diesel smell it has chem as its backbone. I have some chem from top dawg growing right now and out of 15 seeds i got one chem d pheno!!!! So fucking pumped lol. Im pretty sure gromer is from the east coast i could totally be wrong but i heard scott ostrander founder of nectar say he thinks thug pug is from NY. Gromer grows with nectar also.
 

Dividedsky

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Thanks brotha!! 2 hlg 550 v2 and a plantinum led p600
So what is each lights equivalent to in hids? I'm still running 1000w hps lights and recently added a 630cmh, which I love. If I were to switch it up I think I would go for the cmh. Though I've thought about changing my 1000s for the 1000w double ended gavitas-they seem to be a great bang for your buck. Also looked into fluence LEDs. All is still up in the air. The cmh would make sense to cut back on energy consumption, same with LEDs, I'm just use to running hids though.
 

loop718

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So what is each lights equivalent to in hids? I'm still running 1000w hps lights and recently added a 630cmh, which I love. If I were to switch it up I think I would go for the cmh. Though I've thought about changing my 1000s for the 1000w double ended gavitas-they seem to be a great bang for your buck. Also looked into fluence LEDs. All is still up in the air. The cmh would make sense to cut back on energy consumption, same with LEDs, I'm just use to running hids though.
The hlg 550 is equivalent to 1000w hps. Its currently running 4amps lol the p600 is equivalent to 800w hps. I have all 3 lights on 1 15 amp line and no problems at all. Im pretty sure there not as good as the double ended gavitas but they work for me and my op. If i could id go full jungle boy style 4x8 tables under de gavitas.
 

loop718

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So what is each lights equivalent to in hids? I'm still running 1000w hps lights and recently added a 630cmh, which I love. If I were to switch it up I think I would go for the cmh. Though I've thought about changing my 1000s for the 1000w double ended gavitas-they seem to be a great bang for your buck. Also looked into fluence LEDs. All is still up in the air. The cmh would make sense to cut back on energy consumption, same with LEDs, I'm just use to running hids though.
My whole entire house energy bill is $75 thats with central air and a small ac in my grow room insane. My last house was ran with electric heat it was like $450 a month in the winter time.
 

Dividedsky

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The folklore goes is the dude chemdog found chemdog in bagseeds at a dead concert in nyc. Yes there all from the eastcoast. JJ from topdawg is tight with chemdog and so is pbudmike there all on ig these days. Sour Diesel has so many different claims and stories it was deff birthed from chem and so was og kush. If you ever have a really gassy diesel smell it has chem as its backbone. I have some chem from top dawg growing right now and out of 15 seeds i got one chem d pheno!!!! So fucking pumped lol. Im pretty sure gromer is from the east coast i could totally be wrong but i heard scott ostrander founder of nectar say he thinks thug pug is from NY. Gromer grows with nectar also.
I believe the dead show was at alpine valley. The dudes that sold the fire bud that had a few seeds were from Colorado. The dude that purchased the bud was from MA or ar least living in the there. Did you here this part though?- get this, when growing out the seeds that eventually became chem he actually did have a male in the bunch but killed it off because he didn't have any use for it. Not his fault- he probably wasn't an expert with lots of knowledge on breeding at the time. But fuck...imagine that shit, he had a male! Would've have been great if he kept it.
 

Dividedsky

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My whole entire house energy bill is $75 thats with central air and a small ac in my grow room insane. My last house was ran with electric heat it was like $450 a month in the winter time.
See...that's amazing, ya might now be as great as gavitas but fuck, your bill is like 5% of what a total electric bill of running 4 gavitas would be. That seems well worth a little less yeild. Plus you need a decent amount of height with the de.
 

loop718

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I believe the dead show was at alpine valley. The dudes that sold the fire bud that had a few seeds were from Colorado. The dude that purchased the bud was from MA or ar least living in the there. Did you here this part though?- get this, when growing out the seeds that eventually became chem he actually did have a male in the bunch but killed it off because he didn't have any use for it. Not his fault- he probably wasn't an expert with lots of knowledge on breeding at the time. But fuck...imagine that shit, he had a male! Would've have been great if he kept it.
Ya something like that hightimes interviewed all the guys from that chem dog/sour scene. Ill post the link for you. https://www.google.com/amp/s/hightimes.com/grow/25-years-of-chem-dog/amp/
 

loop718

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I believe the dead show was at alpine valley. The dudes that sold the fire bud that had a few seeds were from Colorado. The dude that purchased the bud was from MA or ar least living in the there. Did you here this part though?- get this, when growing out the seeds that eventually became chem he actually did have a male in the bunch but killed it off because he didn't have any use for it. Not his fault- he probably wasn't an expert with lots of knowledge on breeding at the time. But fuck...imagine that shit, he had a male! Would've have been great if he kept it.
Chem seeds came from The dead show in indiana and sour pooped up at a phish show in nyc.
 

Dividedsky

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Chem seeds came from The dead show in indiana and sour pooped up at a phish show in nyc.
Ya just knew it was a dead show in early 90s. Crazy how the story has changed and in a relatively short time. Anyone in the know with cannabis cultivation has probably heard or told the story at least 1 or 2 times.
 

Dividedsky

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Ya something like that hightimes interviewed all the guys from that chem dog/sour scene. Ill post the link for you. https://www.google.com/amp/s/hightimes.com/grow/25-years-of-chem-dog/amp/
Just read this and ya, that's the story I read years ago. What I read wasn't a refined article, (article is great by the way) it was a post on a forum(I forget which) by someone who's was close to or one of the original dudes. I think it was one of the colarado heads who was at the time(in the early 90s)selling this pretty good bud they called dog bud. Its was just him telling his part of the story/history.They were dishing some out on tour. That's fucking crazy though. So cool. Those seeds are what started all the dank we grow now. Amazing. Thanks dude.
 

loop718

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Just read this and ya, that's the story I read years ago. What I read wasn't a refined article, (article is great by the way) it was a post on a forum(I forget which) by someone who's was close to or one of the original dudes. I think it was one of the colarado heads who was at the time(in the early 90s)selling this pretty good bud they called dog bud. Its was just him telling his part of the story/history.They were dishing some out on tour. That's fucking crazy though. So cool. Those seeds are what started all the dank we grow now. Amazing. Thanks dude.
No prob brotha! pbudmike is on instagram. Chemdog is on instagram. Its like everybody is leaving the forums and going to ig. I got one just to catch the seed drops. You heard anything on sophies breath im trying to win this auction. How fire is it if you have any info on it. Dont wanna spend too much if its not fire.
 

Dividedsky

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No prob brotha! pbudmike is on instagram. Chemdog is on instagram. Its like everybody is leaving the forums and going to ig. I got one just to catch the seed drops. You heard anything on sophies breath im trying to win this auction. How fire is it if you have any info on it. Dont wanna spend too much if its not fire.
I'm sure Sophie's is fire. Anything with grateful breath sounds good to me. That being said it sounds like it will stretch like a mofo in bloom so just a heads up. Bet it would go longer than most of his indy strains. Says 9 to 10 weeks.
 

loop718

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I'm sure Sophie's is fire. Anything with grateful breath sounds good to me. That being said it sounds like it will stretch like a mofo in bloom so just a heads up. Bet it would go longer than most of his indy strains. Says 9 to 10 weeks.
Ya im gna pass the auctions already over $350 with over a day to go. If it was meat breath that be a diff story lol.
 
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