FISA Abuse by FBI

Bugeye

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I'm looking forward to the report on FISA abuse at FBI. Or maybe it just comes in the form of an indictment?
 

TacoMac

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The shit hasn't even started to hit the fan yet on FISA abuse. Much fun ahead.
Three investigations done already. No wrongdoing found.

Just like Benghazi. 3 years, 10's of millions of dollars spent, not one single thing ever found and not one single charge ever filed.
 

Bugeye

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Three investigations done already. No wrongdoing found.

Just like Benghazi. 3 years, 10's of millions of dollars spent, not one single thing ever found and not one single charge ever filed.
I see a few differences this time around. lol
 

UncleBuck

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https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/459379-the-worst-is-still-to-come-for-jim-comey

At 6’8”, fired FBI director James Comey moves through life like a shark’s fin, well above the water level set by the rest of us. This brings attention, which he appears to enjoy, perhaps even crave. He has become a public performer over the past three years, cultivating a disarming “aw shucks, lordy, lordy” persona while covering his damaging actions with milky platitudes.

The Department of Justice Inspector General just fired the first of three cruise missiles trained on Mr. Comey with devastating impact. Comey’s reaction? “Feel free to apologize to me.”

Rushing into victimland is a common strategy for the cornered. Another is staking out an imagined noble duty to a contrived higher authority — one that looks strikingly similar to the image he sees in the mirror each morning.

But here in the real world, this is what the IG’s investigation has confirmed: James Comey, as FBI director, created and maintained a separate record system that he kept in a desk drawer. He then also took most of those official records home. If that wasn’t enough recklessness, he leaked some of those records to the press after he was fired.

To Comey, all of this is justified because some hero has to rise up and stand in the breach. But the IG methodically lists the numerous policies Comey violated, policies carefully designed over time to prevent the abuse of authority by those who self-craft a “higher loyalty” in their minds, thereby exempting themselves from the rules. Comey was no hero; he was nothing more than an executive vigilante.

Creating a separate record system in the FBI is a mortal sin, and with good reason. Every newly minted agent at Quantico learns this as part of FBI 101. Anytime an FBI agent, to include the director, collects information in an official capacity, that information must be documented, associated with a case file number and entered into the FBI’s case management system. Comey never did that. In fact, his now infamous memos weren’t entered into the official FBI system until after he was fired.

Having one system of record ensures that all information collected by the FBI is searchable, discoverable and transparently linked to the authorities that allow that collection. A separate, hidden record system gives rise to suspicions and disrupts the economy of trust that the FBI has worked hard to maintain with the American people.

Comey is quoted extensively in the IG’s report and appears nonchalant in his disregard for such rules. He asserts a theory of personal property over the memos he wrote that the IG easily swats aside in its shallow absurdity.

But his assertion of personal ownership of the memos documenting his encounters with President Trump does give off a whiff of self-interest that a future memoir was his true motivator. Less than a year after his firing — voila! — his book, “A Higher Loyalty,” was published.

Each of Comey’s violations — creating separate records, taking them home and leaking them to the press — are fireable offenses and, if he were still FBI director, that undoubtedly would be his fate. It’s almost too bad he can’t be fired again, just for emphasis.

Comey may try to deflect with celebratory comments that he wasn’t charged with mishandling classified information, but he remains in a precarious position — and the trend lines aren’t good.

Next up will be the IG’s findings regarding Comey’s truthfulness before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court and whether he attested to false or misleading statements in order to electronically monitor a presidential campaign.

That determination may not be as cut-and-dried as many think it is, but it hopefully, at a minimum, will explain why Comey believed he could sign off multiple times on a FISA application based largely on information that he, himself, described as “salacious and unverified.” His exposure here is potentially much more devastating than breaking FBI record retention and handling rules.

Close behind the IG’s second report will be findings by U.S. Attorney John Durham whether Comey and his rogue team of investigators violated FBI and departmental guidelines to initiate a counterintelligence investigation into a presidential campaign. They will determine if Comey had adequate justification for launching such an unprecedented investigation.

But beyond that, Mr. Durham and his team likely will follow up on emerging indicators that Comey may have colluded with other intelligence community leaders to actually “manufacture” the justification needed for an investigation by targeting covert informants against campaign representatives in violation of established policies and procedures.

In short, James Comey is not out of the woods after the first IG report, which has exposed him as someone who casually and carelessly disregarded established rules and regulations. It is not a stretch to imagine that this disregard carried over into other more serious areas of potential abuse of authority.

Comey is owed no apology by anyone. By his own publicity-seeking behaviors since crashing onto the scene in July 2016 he has verified his animus and political biases. Without any further findings he already has disgraced that noble office. He owes an apology to every FBI employee, past and present, who toiled to win the trust of the American people that he has so severely damaged.

Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, which consults with private companies and public-safety agencies on strategic mission technologies.
Stop embarrassing yourself
 

Unclebaldrick

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https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/459379-the-worst-is-still-to-come-for-jim-comey

At 6’8”, fired FBI director James Comey moves through life like a shark’s fin, well above the water level set by the rest of us. This brings attention, which he appears to enjoy, perhaps even crave. He has become a public performer over the past three years, cultivating a disarming “aw shucks, lordy, lordy” persona while covering his damaging actions with milky platitudes.

The Department of Justice Inspector General just fired the first of three cruise missiles trained on Mr. Comey with devastating impact. Comey’s reaction? “Feel free to apologize to me.”

Rushing into victimland is a common strategy for the cornered. Another is staking out an imagined noble duty to a contrived higher authority — one that looks strikingly similar to the image he sees in the mirror each morning.

But here in the real world, this is what the IG’s investigation has confirmed: James Comey, as FBI director, created and maintained a separate record system that he kept in a desk drawer. He then also took most of those official records home. If that wasn’t enough recklessness, he leaked some of those records to the press after he was fired.

To Comey, all of this is justified because some hero has to rise up and stand in the breach. But the IG methodically lists the numerous policies Comey violated, policies carefully designed over time to prevent the abuse of authority by those who self-craft a “higher loyalty” in their minds, thereby exempting themselves from the rules. Comey was no hero; he was nothing more than an executive vigilante.

Creating a separate record system in the FBI is a mortal sin, and with good reason. Every newly minted agent at Quantico learns this as part of FBI 101. Anytime an FBI agent, to include the director, collects information in an official capacity, that information must be documented, associated with a case file number and entered into the FBI’s case management system. Comey never did that. In fact, his now infamous memos weren’t entered into the official FBI system until after he was fired.

Having one system of record ensures that all information collected by the FBI is searchable, discoverable and transparently linked to the authorities that allow that collection. A separate, hidden record system gives rise to suspicions and disrupts the economy of trust that the FBI has worked hard to maintain with the American people.

Comey is quoted extensively in the IG’s report and appears nonchalant in his disregard for such rules. He asserts a theory of personal property over the memos he wrote that the IG easily swats aside in its shallow absurdity.

But his assertion of personal ownership of the memos documenting his encounters with President Trump does give off a whiff of self-interest that a future memoir was his true motivator. Less than a year after his firing — voila! — his book, “A Higher Loyalty,” was published.

Each of Comey’s violations — creating separate records, taking them home and leaking them to the press — are fireable offenses and, if he were still FBI director, that undoubtedly would be his fate. It’s almost too bad he can’t be fired again, just for emphasis.

Comey may try to deflect with celebratory comments that he wasn’t charged with mishandling classified information, but he remains in a precarious position — and the trend lines aren’t good.

Next up will be the IG’s findings regarding Comey’s truthfulness before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court and whether he attested to false or misleading statements in order to electronically monitor a presidential campaign.

That determination may not be as cut-and-dried as many think it is, but it hopefully, at a minimum, will explain why Comey believed he could sign off multiple times on a FISA application based largely on information that he, himself, described as “salacious and unverified.” His exposure here is potentially much more devastating than breaking FBI record retention and handling rules.

Close behind the IG’s second report will be findings by U.S. Attorney John Durham whether Comey and his rogue team of investigators violated FBI and departmental guidelines to initiate a counterintelligence investigation into a presidential campaign. They will determine if Comey had adequate justification for launching such an unprecedented investigation.

But beyond that, Mr. Durham and his team likely will follow up on emerging indicators that Comey may have colluded with other intelligence community leaders to actually “manufacture” the justification needed for an investigation by targeting covert informants against campaign representatives in violation of established policies and procedures.

In short, James Comey is not out of the woods after the first IG report, which has exposed him as someone who casually and carelessly disregarded established rules and regulations. It is not a stretch to imagine that this disregard carried over into other more serious areas of potential abuse of authority.

Comey is owed no apology by anyone. By his own publicity-seeking behaviors since crashing onto the scene in July 2016 he has verified his animus and political biases. Without any further findings he already has disgraced that noble office. He owes an apology to every FBI employee, past and present, who toiled to win the trust of the American people that he has so severely damaged.

Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, which consults with private companies and public-safety agencies on strategic mission technologies.
Comey was racing to warn the country of the dumpster fire that is Donald Trump and you clowns are trying to charge him with speeding on his way to do it.

Hilarious.
 

hanimmal

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At 6’8”, fired FBI director James Comey moves through life like a shark’s fin, well above the water level set by the rest of us. This brings attention, which he appears to enjoy, perhaps even crave. He has become a public performer over the past three years, cultivating a disarming “aw shucks, lordy, lordy” persona while covering his damaging actions with milky platitudes.
oooohhh reads like a trashy detective novel. This is defiantly not propaganda....

The Department of Justice Inspector General just fired the first of three cruise missiles trained on Mr. Comey with devastating impact. Comey’s reaction? “Feel free to apologize to me.”
OMG they used missiles on a American!!!

Rushing into victimland is a common strategy for the cornered. Another is staking out an imagined noble duty to a contrived higher authority — one that looks strikingly similar to the image he sees in the mirror each morning.
Was he having a private meeting with Trump in victim land? Everyone is out to get him!

But here in the real world, this is what the IG’s investigation has confirmed: James Comey, as FBI director, created and maintained a separate record system that he kept in a desk drawer. He then also took most of those official records home. If that wasn’t enough recklessness, he leaked some of those records to the press after he was fired.
His private memo's. Because the POTUS had a highly inappropriate series of meetings with Comey, progressively asking him to look the other way on Flynn and demanded loyalty. Sessions was recused, Yates got fired so there was no acting AG other than Rosenstein who Trump had take the blame for firing Comey, POTUS iacting compromised... No reason for him to not keep a record of his observations in the face of that epic corruption by Trump. There is a reason everyone around him tapes their shit with him, he is a crook and they don't want to all go down with him, even though like a rat getting out of a barrel he keeps jumping from body to body.

To Comey, all of this is justified because some hero has to rise up and stand in the breach. But the IG methodically lists the numerous policies Comey violated, policies carefully designed over time to prevent the abuse of authority by those who self-craft a “higher loyalty” in their minds, thereby exempting themselves from the rules. Comey was no hero; he was nothing more than an executive vigilante.
Um, yeah, loyalty to The United States of America is a pretty big thing for Americans. POTUS was having private meetings with Russians, breaking the law doing so, Russia was attacking our citizens, and it all looked like it was going to get swept under the rug by Trump.

Creating a separate record system in the FBI is a mortal sin, and with good reason. Every newly minted agent at Quantico learns this as part of FBI 101. Anytime an FBI agent, to include the director, collects information in an official capacity, that information must be documented, associated with a case file number and entered into the FBI’s case management system. Comey never did that. In fact, his now infamous memos weren’t entered into the official FBI system until after he was fired.
'Mortal Sin', what a boob.

Having one system of record ensures that all information collected by the FBI is searchable, discoverable and transparently linked to the authorities that allow that collection. A separate, hidden record system gives rise to suspicions and disrupts the economy of trust that the FBI has worked hard to maintain with the American people.
uh huh, nothing suspicious about Trump asking Comey repeatedly to drop Flynn's investigation where he flat out lied about talking to Russian Oligarchs (and other countries goons) about Obama's presidential sanctions on Russia for Trump. Firing Yates and pressuring Rosenstein, continually berating Sessions in Tweets, asking for a fixer to do illegal shit to get Trump off.

What is a true American going to do in that situation? Nothing and just hope for the best? Screw that, he did what it took to get the information that POTUS was doing dirty shit into the public.
Comey is quoted extensively in the IG’s report and appears nonchalant in his disregard for such rules. He asserts a theory of personal property over the memos he wrote that the IG easily swats aside in its shallow absurdity.
'easily swats aside'.... lmao what a douche, so the reports first 50 or so pages were strait up reporting. Oddly though the last 10 or so is just verbal masterbation for Trump. I wonder how that got put in at the end when there was nothing to charge Comey with because he did not break any of the FBI rules.

But his assertion of personal ownership of the memos documenting his encounters with President Trump does give off a whiff of self-interest that a future memoir was his true motivator. Less than a year after his firing — voila! — his book, “A Higher Loyalty,” was published.
Wasn't everything he had already released by the FBI for his book? Because they tend to get upset about that kind of thing otherwise.

Each of Comey’s violations — creating separate records, taking them home and leaking them to the press — are fireable offenses and, if he were still FBI director, that undoubtedly would be his fate. It’s almost too bad he can’t be fired again, just for emphasis.
lol right, he wasn't working for the FBI, he was a private citizen, and did what any private citizen who has evidence that wrongful shit is going on can do, the founding fathers really were onto something with the free press thing huh.
Comey may try to deflect with celebratory comments that he wasn’t charged with mishandling classified information, but he remains in a precarious position — and the trend lines aren’t good.
trend lines? Aside from being in the arguably the hardest situation any American has been in, with Russia attacking our country after planting their hand picked POTUS.

Next up will be the IG’s findings regarding Comey’s truthfulness before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court and whether he attested to false or misleading statements in order to electronically monitor a presidential campaign.
See: Carter Page

Oh Wait! You might not be able to because for some reason all of the hack websites set up for Trump's echo chamber have nothing about him. Its so weird. It is right up there with the only post I could find on Butina on OANN was one saying how she was mistreated in jail... So sad the little honey pot Russian Spy looked in Orange.
That determination may not be as cut-and-dried as many think it is, but it hopefully, at a minimum, will explain why Comey believed he could sign off multiple times on a FISA application based largely on information that he, himself, described as “salacious and unverified.” His exposure here is potentially much more devastating than breaking FBI record retention and handling rules.
This dude brought up this propaganda? Jessh, Again..... Carter Page:
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See, 10/16 he signed the FISA warrant for Page who was a suspected Russian spy who joined the Trump campaign in March of 2016, hmm right about the time Manafort joined up..... nothing to worry about right, especially when you start adding in the fact that Russia was hacking into our citizens elected officials computers and spreading disinformation on a epic scale.
 

hanimmal

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Close behind the IG’s second report will be findings by U.S. Attorney John Durham whether Comey and his rogue team of investigators violated FBI and departmental guidelines to initiate a counterintelligence investigation into a presidential campaign. They will determine if Comey had adequate justification for launching such an unprecedented investigation.
Cool it will be more of the same I am guessing. Nobody did anything wrong, outside of not being a Trump bootlicker.
But beyond that, Mr. Durham and his team likely will follow up on emerging indicators that Comey may have colluded with other intelligence community leaders to actually “manufacture” the justification needed for an investigation by targeting covert informants against campaign representatives in violation of established policies and procedures.
That is how most other child molesters are caught too.
In short, James Comey is not out of the woods after the first IG report, which has exposed him as someone who casually and carelessly disregarded established rules and regulations. It is not a stretch to imagine that this disregard carried over into other more serious areas of potential abuse of authority.
You mean as a citizen he didn't have to follow the rules he would have as a public official? Maybe Trump shouldn't have wrongly fired him for investigating his wrong doing.
Comey is owed no apology by anyone. By his own publicity-seeking behaviors since crashing onto the scene in July 2016 he has verified his animus and political biases. Without any further findings he already has disgraced that noble office. He owes an apology to every FBI employee, past and present, who toiled to win the trust of the American people that he has so severely damaged.
Kind of sounds like Sarah Huckabee Sanders flat out lie to the American public in the name of POTUS saying they heard from lots of FBI officials that were happy Comey was canned. And later had to admit to Mueller she just lied to America.
Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, which consults with private companies and public-safety agencies on strategic mission technologies.
I wonder if he is angling for a job in the white house? Is this basically how Barr got his job.
 

Fogdog

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