Bernie Sanders hospitalized for heart surgery.

[SmichiganOG]

Hopefully at the next debates Biden will tell us that after what happened to Bernie he has decided to drop out as well before he also has a heart attack.
Shakes hands with everyone on stage and waves goodbye.
Hello President Elizabeth Warren!! Finally the First Female President of the United States of America!!

I like Liz but she sure goes on about gun control in an almost Hillary-like fashion.

 

[SmichiganOG]

says nobody

As I recall her seemingly lifeless body was loaded into a van by the SS. As you might guess I'm not a Hillary fan. And it's not my lifelong goal to elect a female prez at whatever cost. I'd love to have a non- corrupt president though. But what are the chances of that?

 

[Rob Roy]

I like Liz but she sure goes on about gun control in an almost Hillary-like fashion.

She'll need to use guns to forcibly fund all of her idiotic pie in the sky government forcible redistribution programs though. So I'm certain she likes guns in the hands of SOME people.

She has a brain twice the size of Bernie which is approx. half the size of a Shrew.

 

[SmichiganOG]

She'll need to use guns to forcibly fund all of her idiotic pie in the sky government forcible redistributuon programs though. So I'm certain she likes guns in the hands of SOME people.

She has a brain twice the size of Bernie which is approx. half the size of a Shrew.

I'm all for a good health care plan. It's even more important than bombing Muslims in my book.

 

[Rob Roy]

I'm all for a good health care plan. It's even more important than bombing Muslims in my book.

Bombing is a bad thing. So, you're against SOME violence. That's a good start.

I hope you can get to being against all manner of government violence.

Would you fund a "good health care plan" by forcing people to go along with your idea (there's the violence) or would you "allow" people to make their own choices and eschew the initiation of violence ?

 

[SmichiganOG]

Bombing is a bad thing. So, you're against SOME violence. That's a good start.

I hope you can get to being against all manner of government violence.

Would you fund a "good health care plan" by forcing people to go along with your idea (there's the violence) or would you "allow" people to make their own choices and eschew the initiation of violence ?

Insurance companies are evil, and not a necessary one. As long as I don't have to pay MORE for your choices, I'm good. For a pretty long time I had to pay for the health care of people who didn't have the common sense to use birth control. As well as coverage for their offspring at a time when I had no coverage. But that doesn't annoy me nearly as much as Wal-mart corporate welfare.

I'm with Tulsi on regime change wars.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

The propaganda trolls continue their march.

 

[Rob Roy]

Insurance companies are evil, and not a necessary one. As long as I don't have to pay MORE for your choices, I'm good. For a pretty long time I had to pay for the health care of people who didn't have the common sense to use birth control. As well as coverage for their offspring at a time when I had no coverage. But that doesn't annoy me nearly as much as Wal-mart corporate welfare.

I'm with Tulsi on regime change wars.

Insurance companies are government enabled and protected entities, thus by extension they are evil. However the concept of an insurance company which doesn't rely on government protectionism is not evil.

All corporations by virtue of being a corporation are on some kind of "government welfare".

I'm all about regime change and against war. You own yourself, so any regime which doesn't recognize that, should be abolished.

Tulsi is the least egregious of the Democrat douchebags, if you insist on having a master she's probably kinder than most of the others.

 

[Rob Roy]

The propaganda trolls continue their march.

 

[SmichiganOG]

Insurance companies are government enabled and protected entities, thus by extension they are evil. However the concept of an insurance company which doesn't rely on government protectionism is not evil.

All corporations by virtue of being a corporation are on some kind of "government welfare".

I'm all about regime change and against war. You own yourself, so any regime which doesn't recognize that, should be abolished.

Tulsi is the least egregious of the Democrat douchebags, if you insist on having a master she's probably kinder than most of the others.

Regime change wars are generally designed to keep war going. They don't help help common people. Now that I know you're not actually against violence I won't waste my time.
Sounds like you're defending Walmart. I won't waste my time.

 

[SmichiganOG]

She'll need to use guns to forcibly fund all of her idiotic pie in the sky government forcible redistributuon programs though. So I'm certain she likes guns in the hands of SOME people.

She has a brain twice the size of Bernie which is approx. half the size of a Shrew.

Can't speak or write without ad hominem. Let me guess, you walk in the footsteps of Trump.

 

[Rob Roy]

Regime change wars are generally designed to keep war going. They don't help help common people. Now that I know you're not actually against violence I won't waste my time.
Sounds like you're defending Walmart. I won't waste my time.

You misunderstand.

I'm not for the United States meddling in anybodies, business....a Muslims, yours, mine, anybodies.

I don't support the USA regime, do you?

No government which relies on involuntary control over people has ever helped anybody in the big picture. When you control people as a default part of your program who aren't trying to control you....you're doing it wrong.

 

[Rob Roy]

Can't speak or write without ad hominem. Let me guess, you walk in the footsteps of Trump.

That's pretty funny. No I am not a Trumpster.

Let me guess, you are in favor of using threats against people to fund things you like, while at the same time fervently believing you are all about "peace" ?

 

[hanimmal]

Because we have more throwaway Chinese-made crap doesn't indicate income. Is it an indicator that wr can't pay for health care? How about the increase in real estate values and necessary items like cars versus income? The first full time job I had was in 1973, union job that paid about $4.50. Today that's about $20 (check an online calculator). Not only could I not buy an electronic Chinese tv for $100, I had no desire to. Furthermore insurance actually covered my medical bills. How much overtime are people working to buy that junk? Things improve overall? Based on what? Not my observation. No interest in getting into an involved debate here, but there are lots of facts to back me up. "Bernie is ok, but as a senator, as a President he wouldn't get anything done..." Based on what? As far as being a lightning rod for dipshitz all of us are.

Who makes money on the increase in real estate? People who sell the house, neighbors property values, local stores who sell goods to those people. We pay for everyone's healthcare every year, it is just that we allow people to get financially destroyed while not being able to pay for it before the rest of the tax payers have to foot the bill. Getting everyone on affordable insurance will help stop this devastation.

And dismissing how much power we now have with computers in everyone's hands as cheap chinese crap is just making it hard to actually talk with you about this. If you can't see how much we have been continually building upon what we have I can understand why it is hard to not fall into the trap set by Russian propaganda.

 

[SmichiganOG]

Who makes money on the increase in real estate? People who sell the house, neighbors property values, local stores who sell goods to those people. We pay for everyone's healthcare every year, it is just that we allow people to get financially destroyed while not being able to pay for it before the rest of the tax payers have to foot the bill. Getting everyone on affordable insurance will help stop this devastation.

And dismissing how much power we now have with computers in everyone's hands as cheap chinese crap is just making it hard to actually talk with you about this. If you can't see how much we have been continually building upon what we have I can understand why it is hard to not fall into the trap set by Russian propaganda.

Pay gap vs. What things cost is the point. You can buy cheap good computers because of the difference in the economy between the US and China. I wasn't just dismissing the power of electronics.

Because Healthcare is a fixed cost and because insurance companies have to make a profit on top of the fixed cost, how do you propose to make Health cost or health insurance affordable?

Russian propaganda, lol.

 

[hanimmal]

Pay gap vs. What things cost is the point. You can buy cheap good computers because of the difference in the economy between the US and China. I wasn't just dismissing the power of electronics.

Because Healthcare is a fixed cost and because insurance companies have to make a profit on top of the fixed cost, how do you propose to make Health cost or health insurance affordable?

Russian propaganda, lol.

The government is not good at negotiating costs with the public. If we leave things in the government hands there will eventually be areas that they are grossly overpaying, and others that are getting not enough. Insurance companies as much as people like to hate on them, are the ones to continually negotiate to try to save money where they can. Having the Government/Insurance/Hospitals/Citizens setup gives a really strong check and balances.

It is having the computer that is the big thing. We can instantly communicate around the world, our ability to innovate and bring to the market is so much more streamlined than ever before in history. The Middle class wages have basically stayed the same for the last 50+ years right (when considering inflation and whatnot). So middle class still means middle class right? And add in the millions of more people entering into the middle class, it means that the middle class has grown substantially.

 

[SmichiganOG]

The government is not good at negotiating costs with the public. If we leave things in the government hands there will eventually be areas that they are grossly overpaying, and others that are getting not enough. Insurance companies as much as people like to hate on them, are the ones to continually negotiate to try to save money where they can. Having the Government/Insurance/Hospitals/Citizens setup gives a really strong check and balances.

It is having the computer that is the big thing. We can instantly communicate around the world, our ability to innovate and bring to the market is so much more streamlined than ever before in history. The Middle class wages have basically stayed the same for the last 50+ years right (when considering inflation and whatnot). So middle class still means middle class right? And add in the millions of more people entering into the middle class, it means that the middle class has grown substantially.

So you're saying it won't be a perfect setup like we have now? Food and medical care might be considered more important than computers. And there's no polite way to comment on your statement that middle-class wages have basically stayed the same for 50 plus years. And you're here accusing people of going for the Communist propaganda why you spread total b******* like that?

 

[hanimmal]

So you're saying it won't be a perfect setup like we have now? Food and medical care might be considered more important than computers. And there's no polite way to comment on your statement that middle-class wages have basically said the same for 50 plus years. And you're here accusing people of going for the Communist propaganda why you spread total b******* like that?

We have the highest rate of obesity, we have the food, we just need to figure out as a society how to use it better.

What are you talking about feel free to just say what you like to me, I will try to not troll you back. But if I didn't make sense I can gladly explain, I did it somewhere else in this forum.

Basically you look at the population differences in America, and the % of middle class of those years for the total number of people. The middle class has grown substantially. People have been spouting how bad everything is hard since forever, but after the Tea Party stuff came out it really has been taken to a different level as people convince each other of the worst online in forums like this.

Everything gets so sensationalized, and amplified in importance and treated like it hasn't happened before, but it has happened, and humanity will move forward. We just have growing pains here and there that suck as we learn new lessons.

 

[Fogdog]

As I recall her seemingly lifeless body was loaded into a van by the SS. As you might guess I'm not a Hillary fan. And it's not my lifelong goal to elect a female prez at whatever cost. I'd love to have a non- corrupt president though. But what are the chances of that?

So, Warren isn't on your short list for a primary vote?

 

[londonfog]

That's pretty funny. No I am not a Trumpster.

Let me guess, you are in favor of using threats against people to fund things you like, while at the same time fervently believing you are all about "peace" ?

Why did you force others to teach you 1,2,3 children ? Could you also answer what were the means of transportation for your 1,2,3 children. Also what PUBLIC school did you attend ?