wow, WTF police?

Metasynth

Metasynth

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Even if the cop gets convicted, they’ll get manslaughter and only be sentenced to 5 years, then they will maybe do 1.5 years inside, and then be out with probation.

For murdering an innocent person.

If that was me who shot the gun, I’d be going away for life, if not gettin the death penalty, cause they kill a lot of prisoners in the Texas justice system.
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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He's going to jail. The charge is the only thing that is yet to be determined.

For those not reading the report:

A neighbor across the street looked out the window and saw that her neighbor's door was open, the porch light was on, but nobody was around. She thought it was suspicious so she called the police.

The police show up and start to walk the perimeter of the house thinking it might have been a break in. As they're circling the house, the officer sees a figure through the window. He immediately fired killing the woman.

That's it.

Is it murder? Tough call. Probably not. If he cops a plea, he'll get manslaughter and probably do 10 years. If he fights it, it's anybody's guess.

Regardless, he's going to prison. The only question is for how long.
 
Metasynth

Metasynth

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TacoMac said:
He's going to jail. The charge is the only thing that is yet to be determined.

For those not reading the report:

A neighbor across the street looked out the window and saw that her neighbor's door was open, the porch light was on, but nobody was around. She thought it was suspicious so she called the police.

The police show up and start to walk the perimeter of the house thinking it might have been a break in. As they're circling the house, the officer sees a figure through the window. He immediately fired killing the woman.

That's it.

Is it murder? Tough call. Probably not. If he cops a plea, he'll get manslaughter and probably do 10 years. If he fights it, it's anybody's guess.

Regardless, he's going to prison. The only question is for how long.
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That other case recently, where the cop killed that guy because she walked into someone’s apartment and “thought it was her apartment” only got 10 years.

This guy was on a call. No way they’re giving him ten years. I hope people riot when this shitty “justice” is served and he gets a virtual slap on then wrist, a handful of years in prison.
 
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schuylaar

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Amber Guyger got 10 years- though she deserved more..I didn't believe a word of her story..I've been tired getting home more than once and got off on the wrong floor. The floor you live on has a 'feel' and if the red welcome mat that she doesn't have in front of her door wasn't clue enough?..OHHHHHHHHH PA-LEEEEEEEEEASE!

www.cnn.com

Amber Guyger gets 10-year murder sentence for fatally shooting Botham Jean | CNN

A Texas jury has given former police officer Amber Guyger a 10-year murder sentence for fatally shooting Botham Jean in his Dallas apartment.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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Metasynth said:
That other case recently, where the cop killed that guy because she walked into someone’s apartment and “thought it was her apartment” only got 10 years.

This guy was on a call. No way they’re giving him ten years. I hope people riot when this shitty “justice” is served and he gets a virtual slap on then wrist, a handful of years in prison.
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What people have to understand is that to get a murder conviction requires intent. You can't just charge someone with murder because you want to punish them. If there is no intent, there is no murder charge.

People fuck up all the time and kill people. The only reason these cases get mentioned is because they involve a cop.

Regular citizens get the same treatment. If you shot someone you thought was breaking into your house only to find out it was your neighbor that happened to scare the shit out of you, is that murder?

No.

Is it manslaughter?

Definitely.

This case is really no different. It's tragic as hell. But what you can't prove is that this cop knew this woman, had some sort of grievance with her and decided to fake a call to the location to shoot her dead. THAT is what you'd have to prove to get a murder conviction, or something very close to it.

Over charging because of "wanting somebody to pay" is how so very many get off Scot free.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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they have to start doing some more rigorous mental testing before they give cops guns....jesus christ, how in the fucking world can you justify yelling "freeze" then immediately shooting? you gotta give em at least a couple of seconds to hear you and comply, or not...damn....
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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ok, not murder, but it ought to be more than manslaughter...this is a policeman, a sworn protector, the thin blue line between order and chaos. there has to be some accountability, or there IS NO ORDER....
 
scumrot derelict

scumrot derelict

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schuylaar said:
Amber Guyger got 10 years- though she deserved more..I didn't believe a word of her story..I've been tired getting home more than once and got off on the wrong floor. The floor you live on has a 'feel' and if the red welcome mat that she doesn't have in front of her door wasn't clue enough?..OHHHHHHHHH PA-LEEEEEEEEEASE!

www.cnn.com

Amber Guyger gets 10-year murder sentence for fatally shooting Botham Jean | CNN

A Texas jury has given former police officer Amber Guyger a 10-year murder sentence for fatally shooting Botham Jean in his Dallas apartment.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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You.

You're still here.
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
they have to start doing some more rigorous mental testing before they give cops guns....jesus christ, how in the fucking world can you justify yelling "freeze" then immediately shooting? you gotta give em at least a couple of seconds to hear you and comply, or not...damn....
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If I've said this once I've said it a thousand times:

The BIG, HUGE problem with policing right now is the propensity of law enforcement to want ex-military as employees. They want ex-military because they're already trained in combat tactics and use of weapons, so they save a great deal of time and money on training.

The problem with that is a lot of these guys and gals are damaged goods. They don't teach civic lessons at boot camp...or anywhere else in the military. They teach you how to kill people and dominate people.

So you send these folks over to the middle east, let them shoot people at will and beat them down like dogs, then you bring them back here, give them a badge and very similar weaponry to what they had in Afghanistan and turn them lose on the American People.

It's a recipe for disaster and has proven to be an increasing problem over the last 20 years.
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
ok, not murder, but it ought to be more than manslaughter...this is a policeman, a sworn protector, the thin blue line between order and chaos. there has to be some accountability, or there IS NO ORDER....
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In some jurisdictions, Man1 will get you 15 to life. In most, it carries a 25 year maximum. I'm just basing it on past experience with this sort of case. We have one here in Atlanta that the jury is still out on. I'm thinking he's going to be found not guilty (and he's guilty as hell in my opinion) of murder. He'll probably get the same thing: Manslaughter and 10 years.
 
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