Obama warns Warren & Sanders

Has the Democratic party moved too far to the left?

  • Yes, their fucking doomed

    Votes: 6 75.0%
  • No, the people love it

    Votes: 2 25.0%

  • Total voters
    8
Anyway, for what it's worth, you two are just the worst kind of liberal. Basically the exact same as a dumb redneck, with a few words switched around. If you care about liberalism, you'd definitely take a dab or seven.

Let's look at it logically. I really like Bernie and you two really don't like Bernie. I really don't like Biden and you two really like Biden. You guys think I'm a redneck republican and I think you're redneck republicans. Judging by the people we like and don't like, who do you think is closer to being a redneck republican?
 
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It's a reference for having lots of conversations with lots of people (the california part is to indicate that the conversations are mostly with liberals, just in case you're new to us/english references) and I've never seen one a "liberal" as looney as tweekerbuck. Oh snap, buck is that you? From your other account??

I'm not Buck.

My name is Nikolay, I'm a Russian truck driver, I'm from Moscow
 
I think we have a winner!.......
Sanders says he would legalize marijuana with executive order
“We’re going to legalize marijuana and end the horrifically destructive war on drugs”
 
Anyway, for what it's worth, you two are just the worst kind of liberal. Basically the exact same as a dumb redneck, with a few words switched around. If you care about liberalism, you'd definitely take a dab or seven.

Let's look at it logically. I really like Bernie and you two really don't like Bernie. I really don't like Biden and you two really like Biden. You guys think I'm a redneck republican and I think you're redneck republicans. Judging by the people we like and don't like, who do you think is closer to being a redneck republican?
When did either of us say we really like Biden, socko
 
I think we have a winner!.......
Sanders says he would legalize marijuana with executive order
“We’re going to legalize marijuana and end the horrifically destructive war on drugs”
Every dem is running with that idea
 
Hey Fogster, what’s shaken amigo? We need Warren to help heal our country, her nurturing loving kindness. Do you know what her plan on legalizing is?
Hi Amber,

Doing well, just taking care of business. It seems that me and my wife have been appointed the role of guardians for our parents. Taking care of kids is one thing but caring for the elderly is a step harder than that. It's been eleven years and counting since I could even leave for a vacation without having to worry about what happens if Mom goes down with a medical emergency. Sometime during that period, my wife's mother drifted into Alzheimers so, we have three households to manage. My kids are getting a real education on life.

My mom is close to running out of money to pay for her own care (she lives in assisted living facility, which costs about 5k/month), so this talk about radical change to how health care is delivered has my attention. It's my guess that by the end of 2020, she will be broke and on Medicaid. That's when we find out if the place she's in will in fact honor their promise to accept Medicaid payments. We've already been given the run-around by another facility and it was an eye-opener how quickly and easily she was denied a place when they decided it was in their best financial interests to do so. Medicare has been a good deal for my mother but it isn't free and has factored into her declining finances, though the real reason she is running out of money stem from her poor health and need for care 7/24. Other countries would provide that kind of care in return for her life-long contributions but not here. On paper, we plan to file for Medicaid at the necessary time and expect things to proceed without a hitch. We'll see what happens when reality comes home to roost.

Unlike Bernie, Warren has put forward a cost analysis and specified how pay for covering everybody under Medicare including senior-care. It seems to me that her plan is low-balling costs and the difference will be paid for with extra taxes whether she owns up to it or not. So, yeah, Warren has the right ideas but people are not wrong if they are skeptical of her plans. To me, holes in Warren's plans are not nearly as much of a concern as what Republicans tried to do the last time, which was: repeal the ACA, privatize Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, dump 10's of millions from healthcare they received through the ACA and pretty much fuck over my elderly parents.

Also, Warren is not radical or scaring people like me who have much at stake and personal experience in what our government does regarding our healthcare system. It seems to me that Obama is overstating his concern. He is a private citizen and has the right to speak his mind but I think he's behind the times on this topic. I'm more worried about Republican efforts to gut Medicare and Medicaid than I am about expanding coverage. With the looming number of boomers headed into senility with a whole lot less in savings than my Mom had, we have to figure out what to do for them. To many Republicans, retirement for the masses means "work until you can't and then die".

Regarding MJ, Warren is good but hasn't been forthcoming with enough details for me to know what she intends. She says "legalize", she says "decriminalize" and she doesn't say what that means. Maybe I have been lulled into a false sense of security by living in Oregon where it's simply no longer an issue.
 
Hi Amber,

Doing well, just taking care of business. It seems that me and my wife have been appointed the role of guardians for our parents. Taking care of kids is one thing but caring for the elderly is a step harder than that. It's been eleven years and counting since I could even leave for a vacation without having to worry about what happens if Mom goes down with a medical emergency. Sometime during that period, my wife's mother drifted into Alzheimers so, we have three households to manage. My kids are getting a real education on life.

My mom is close to running out of money to pay for her own care (she lives in assisted living facility, which costs about 5k/month), so this talk about radical change to how health care is delivered has my attention. It's my guess that by the end of 2020, she will be broke and on Medicaid. That's when we find out if the place she's in will in fact honor their promise to accept Medicaid payments. We've already been given the run-around by another facility and it was an eye-opener how quickly and easily she was denied a place when they decided it was in their best financial interests to do so. Medicare has been a good deal for my mother but it isn't free and has factored into her declining finances, though the real reason she is running out of money stem from her poor health and need for care 7/24. Other countries would provide that kind of care in return for her life-long contributions but not here. On paper, we plan to file for Medicaid at the necessary time and expect things to proceed without a hitch. We'll see what happens when reality comes home to roost.

Unlike Bernie, Warren has put forward a cost analysis and specified how pay for covering everybody under Medicare including senior-care. It seems to me that her plan is low-balling costs and the difference will be paid for with extra taxes whether she owns up to it or not. So, yeah, Warren has the right ideas but people are not wrong if they are skeptical of her plans. To me, holes in Warren's plans are not nearly as much of a concern as what Republicans tried to do the last time, which was: repeal the ACA, privatize Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, dump 10's of millions from healthcare they received through the ACA and pretty much fuck over my elderly parents.

Also, Warren is not radical or scaring people like me who have much at stake and personal experience in what our government does regarding our healthcare system. It seems to me that Obama is overstating his concern. He is a private citizen and has the right to speak his mind but I think he's behind the times on this topic. I'm more worried about Republican efforts to gut Medicare and Medicaid than I am about expanding coverage. With the looming number of boomers headed into senility with a whole lot less in savings than my Mom had, we have to figure out what to do for them. To many Republicans, retirement for the masses means "work until you can't and then die".

Regarding MJ, Warren is good but hasn't been forthcoming with enough details for me to know what she intends. She says "legalize", she says "decriminalize" and she doesn't say what that means. Maybe I have been lulled into a false sense of security by living in Oregon where it's simply no longer an issue.
Good luck with the family, I sure do hope things work out for you. I am looking forward to warrens healthcare plan, I love the idea of having healthcare covered if I decide to quit a job or decide to move or change careers, it would give me so much freedom and peace of mind knowing I won’t have that expense hanging over my head. It’s a total game changer . Legal weed is one of those things that looms over like a dark cloud when I think about places on the East coast I want to live like New Jersey and Philly and they don’t have weed shops and got nasty weed laws. I have been spoiled here in Oklahoma and Oregon . Bernie has laid out a plan and I’m quite happy with his proposal.
 
Yeah if you wanna go that route, I'm fine with slurpees and teen pop. It's a little tired and boring and dumb, but I'll play in the mud with the kids.
 
Warren is toast, she's on a steep decline in numerous polls. Black hate her and that's enough to give her "no chance".........
 
Yeah I see some people reply as if liking someone is the same as saying that they have the best chance of winning, which those are obviously two entirely different angles. I think Biden has the best chance of winning, but he's probably my least favorite. Hillary could probably even win(again) and I do like her more than Biden, but she's still too corporate ho for my liking. Bernie won't win, but I find him the most genuine.
 
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