SOG

[Thundercat]

I like sog for the quick turn around. However keeping enough moms can be a pain of your right for space. @Thundercat how many moms do you keep per run of 50 plants ?

I only keep 2-4 moms at a time, and they aren't big actually. I don't do 50 clone batches though. I run 40-50 plants in flower ay once, but they are in batches of 10-12 plants. I typically have 4 cycles in the tray at once for the total plant count.

 

[Keesje]

To get 1 gram per Watt on 120 x 120 cm you do not need to SOG in such amounts.
It can be done also with less plants.
Just will take a bit more time to veg (or a little longer before you transpant your clones), but not that much.
If you would put 25 on that space I wonder how much longer it would take.

I knew guys in the past who did a lot of plants on a square meter: 100.
They had a 600 Watt HPS and had about 650/700 grams. So about 1.15 gram per Watt.
But they had a lot of work yielding them and they payed a lot for the clones.
They ran it as a test, so it was more for fun.

With CO2 you would get more, but it would mean that you also have to adjust other things in your tent.
Like how will you control the heat then?

 

[Renfro]

I like sog for the quick turn around. However keeping enough moms can be a pain of your right for space. @Thundercat how many moms do you keep per run of 50 plants ?

I used to do a SoG, needed 200 cuttings (big ones) every 20 days. I found that 5 large mothers did the trick.

 

[delacruz]

You started flowering when they were 8 inches tall? How big did you take clones?

I start from seeds.

 

[gr865]

Did a 24 plant pseudo SOG a few runs back, in my Signature Big Buddha Cheese Part Deux.
Did 1.15 G/W smokable cured bud in jars.
Was way too much work.

 

[Keesje]

Was way too much work.

In what way?

 

[zypheruk]

No matter what way you do a sog grow automatic watering is the key. Then there is no hard work when they are in flower.

 

[Bud2theBone]

I veg with t5 floro lights to help keep that cost down. Eventually I will probably switch over to LED.

How many t5 would you use for this SOG set up?

 

[Bud2theBone]

No matter what way you do a sog grow automatic watering is the key. Then there is no hard work when they are in flower.

Excuse my interruption but I could use your advice. I have SOG set up similar to what’s described. 5x5 grow area and I’m aiming at squeezing 50 in. I also am using 1000 hps but I get different accounts on the veg light. T5 pr cfl is better choice??

 

[ToFarGone]

Excuse my interruption but I could use your advice. I have SOG set up similar to what’s described. 5x5 grow area and I’m aiming at squeezing 50 in. I also am using 1000 hps but I get different accounts on the veg light. T5 pr cfl is better choice??

T5 over the cfl and metal halide will outperform both those

 

[Bud2theBone]

T5 over the cfl and metal halide will outperform both those

Can you tell me a little about metal halide

 

[ToFarGone]

Can you tell me a little about metal halide

It’s your HPS fixture with a different bulb. Much more intense then t5 but in a better spectrum for veg then your HPS

Simple Google will also help ya out?

 

[Bud2theBone]

It’s your HPS fixture with a different bulb. Much more intense then t5 but in a better spectrum for veg then your HPS

Simple Google will also help ya out?

IKR but I’d rather hear it directly from someone who does what I do. Thanks for the advice I appreciate it

 

[Bud2theBone]

It’s your HPS fixture with a different bulb. Much more intense then t5 but in a better spectrum for veg then your HPS

Simple Google will also help ya out?

Don’t get frustrated with me friend I have another question. What is optimal wattage for MH lights in my 5x5 grow space

 

[zypheruk]

Excuse my interruption but I could use your advice. I have SOG set up similar to what’s described. 5x5 grow area and I’m aiming at squeezing 50 in. I also am using 1000 hps but I get different accounts on the veg light. T5 pr cfl is better choice??

T5 cant compete against hid or led,.

 

[zypheruk]

Don’t get frustrated with me friend I have another question. What is optimal wattage for MH lights in my 5x5 grow space

1,000 watt hps in a 5x5 is what you want so long as you have enough height to hang it so the light foot print covers the canopy. If you want to spend money and use less electricity then 700-750 watts of led. If you choose led make sure its quantum boards or Samsung strips.

 

[Thundercat]

How many t5 would you use for this SOG set up?

I had a single t5 fixture. It had 8 bulbs and was 4'long x 2' wide. It perfectly covered a 2x4 flood tray. That tray held my mother plants and the clones that vegged for 7-14 days to establish roots. The t5 stayed just a couple inches above the veg plants so they didn't stretch any more then nessecary.

 

[Bud2theBone]

I had a single t5 fixture. It had 8 bulbs and was 4'long x 2' wide. It perfectly covered a 2x4 flood tray. That tray held my mother plants and the clones that vegged for 7-14 days to establish roots. The t5 stayed just a couple inches above the veg plants so they didn't stretch any more then nessecary.

I have an 8 bulb HO t5!! Will this be good?? I keep hearing to use MH instead of t5

 

[rkymtnman]

I have an 8 bulb HO t5!! Will this be good?? I keep hearing to use MH instead of t5

use the higher K value bulbs in the T5 if you already have it. more blues, less reds for veg

 

[Thundercat]

I have an 8 bulb HO t5!! Will this be good?? I keep hearing to use MH instead of t5

The t5 fixture is a great veg light. I don't know about your garden but as I was running my SOG for the last ten years I found it was essential to keep the plants a manageable size to keep my flower room from getting over crowded and turning into a jungle. I wasn't trying to veg big plants, I was vegging many small plants. So the T5 let me do that well. I could keep the light close to the plants and they just rooted nicely without stretching a ton into big plants. I only let them get 7-8 inches tall.