Auto flowers
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Dendrophilly
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You guys choose to grow strains that take longer than you wanted to wait and used pots larger than most people would making your run time just enough longer for you to both curse the genetics that are producing quite well for you. 
puffdatchronic
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only reason im annoyed is the false advertising. its advertised as 8 weeks and ok we always give 2 weeks leeway ...but im looking at 13 weeks.
my only previous auto experience has been world of seeds afghan kush ryder and it performed exactly as expected and advertised and done in 75 days.
Pot size is not an issue here and wouldn't cause such a massive delay. its not even a really big final pot, i think its only 3 gallons. transplant at week 2.. theres no issue.
as has been stated its this so called thing called 'super autos' evidently.
is the plant a pleasure to grow? yes
is the plant producing beautiful potent looking flowers? yes
is the plant even an auto? no idea as im not going past 5 weeks of veg growth on a so called auto.
would i grow a fastbuds auto again? only if the weed is so good that it merits it, not because i want to grow an auto in the true sense of the word.
MATTYMATT726
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It says 8 weeks FLOWERING not FROM seed. So veg is 3 to 5 weeks no stunting and 8 to 10 weeks flowering. So 11 to 15 weeks but id say she is small and should be done vegging in 3 weeks so 11 to 13 is you're frame and anything less is you being impatient.
puffdatchronic
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well I know most autos ive seen are advertised as 8 to 10 weeks from seed. including most of the mephisto strains youre so keen on. sour crack for example 8 weeks from seed, backed up and verified by every journal ive found on it. same with the afghan kush life cycle 70 days
which i can personally attest to.
so the 8 weeks advertised is highly implied.
i dont think life cycle 100+ days sounds very attractive for an auto does it.
as i said before, autos are grown for 2 main reasons to grow a fast no hassle indoor crop in 2 or so months, Or to grow 2 outdoor crops per year.
i dont think lack of patience comes into it.14 weeks for an auto is simply no good. unless youre going for 2 outdoor crops. indoor, completely pointless
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MATTYMATT726
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You can't compaire Mephisto to Fast Buds. Two different breeders. If you want to assume than thays on you. Just because Mephisto lists time from seed doesn't mean every other breeder will. Fast Buds CLEARLY says from flowering.
puffdatchronic
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what exactly are you arguing anyway? seems like youre arguing for the sake of it.
my gripe is that an auto shouldn't take as long as a photo and fastbuds description is misleading....and youre saying they should and its not?
female seeds, greenhouse, dna, mephisto, everyone posts the life cycle time as flowering time....even sweet seeds version of this strain advertised 8 weeks from seed.
they do that because thats why people buy autos, thats why they are attractive.
noone is going to buy an auto that says 14 weeks from seed, unless its nevilles haze or something.
so please stop with your patronising b.s.
fast buds version takes too long, end of.
do i need to keep going?
how dumb of me to assume that a reputable breeder of autos wouldnt advertise their product the same as everyone else and not say, hide a hidden 40 day veg time
im actually done here this is ridiculous.
my gripe is that an auto shouldn't take as long as a photo and fastbuds description is misleading....and youre saying they should and its not?
female seeds, greenhouse, dna, mephisto, everyone posts the life cycle time as flowering time....even sweet seeds version of this strain advertised 8 weeks from seed.
they do that because thats why people buy autos, thats why they are attractive.
noone is going to buy an auto that says 14 weeks from seed, unless its nevilles haze or something.
so please stop with your patronising b.s.
fast buds version takes too long, end of.
do i need to keep going?
how dumb of me to assume that a reputable breeder of autos wouldnt advertise their product the same as everyone else and not say, hide a hidden 40 day veg time
im actually done here this is ridiculous.
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MATTYMATT726
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You're a clown. They're called AUTO(AUTOMATIC FLOWERING) SEEDS NOT FAST seeds. Keep growing like a clown XD
Dendrophilly
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You probably could have gotten your plant to flower faster if you haddn't had to transplant it. I've been saying the same thing; that the estimated times are bull shit but I've been learning that its mostly my growing practice that's making things take longer than they need to. There are times when it seems misleading that some companies are giving you flowering times and some are listing full life cycle run times. Its good to read a couple grow journals to get an idea of how they will grow before making a commitment and getting your expectations set.
Those mk ultras are so small from flowering quickly that had to group 3 for a picture and they look like they wont out yeild your single plant. Keep doing what your going in the garden and try to stay positive here, were all here because we care about rudi and were trying to make it work.
Those mk ultras are so small from flowering quickly that had to group 3 for a picture and they look like they wont out yeild your single plant. Keep doing what your going in the garden and try to stay positive here, were all here because we care about rudi and were trying to make it work.
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Budzbuddha
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Sometimes autos just stall no matter what ... ran a crazy miss Hyde auto up week 15 ... no progression ... killed it.
The ruderalis mixed into the equation throws unstable lines ... even from the most popular breeders . Only those breeders that continually refine the strains will get performance desired ...... Also as far as the “ market hype “ on harvest times it’s always subjective , even on the plant advertised ( you will often find different structures , flowering times , size , etc. ) among seed stock ... even from the same batch. Most of the advertised times are under their “ optimum grow conditions “ or strain testing before drop to market.
Then again there is a lot of bunk sold in pretty packages.
The ruderalis mixed into the equation throws unstable lines ... even from the most popular breeders . Only those breeders that continually refine the strains will get performance desired ...... Also as far as the “ market hype “ on harvest times it’s always subjective , even on the plant advertised ( you will often find different structures , flowering times , size , etc. ) among seed stock ... even from the same batch. Most of the advertised times are under their “ optimum grow conditions “ or strain testing before drop to market.
Then again there is a lot of bunk sold in pretty packages.
puffdatchronic
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thats what this noob resorts to when he cant win an argument.
i do agree with you though budz you make a point, I've obviously happened upon an unstable pheno type because im sure you and everyone with half a brain will agree , they are automatic flowering to save time . if they ain't saving time they ain't working
by the way mattmatt726 where is your journal so i can see what a master grower you are that you can speak with such authority. all i can see is pages of you dishing out unsolicited advice opinions and semi trolling. link please .ill give credit where its due
i do agree with you though budz you make a point, I've obviously happened upon an unstable pheno type because im sure you and everyone with half a brain will agree , they are automatic flowering to save time . if they ain't saving time they ain't working
by the way mattmatt726 where is your journal so i can see what a master grower you are that you can speak with such authority. all i can see is pages of you dishing out unsolicited advice opinions and semi trolling. link please .ill give credit where its due
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MATTYMATT726
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Nah, i don't mess with my plants everyday or post for rep. I am too lazy. Here are my very first autos last summer. 2 plants 82 ish days. Note all the string holding up the buds friend XD i just updated whenever i felt like it, but pics from seed and 1x a week are definitely there somewhere. You just don't have it in you to get autos right i suppose.
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Tupar from top to bottom? Thats what i do. No top dress either. Youll only be watering from top for 18-21 days. Coco is very good with not attracting pests. I do t do anything more than i need. Ill get some day 68 pics in a bit.
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puffdatchronic
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yeah string holding up the buds ,nothing noteworthy there. Pretty much every grow will need some sort of bud support towards the end. you grew them out well enough i guess but I wouldnt class you as a guru "friend"
and "get autos right" ,?
im.pretty sure im doing it right, pretty sure ive been doing this a lot longer than you and pretty sure youre coming across to everyone whos also checking my journal and knows my plant is rocking it, as a boorish ass.
my journal is finished now though. this forum is lame beyond words now. people like you ruin it.
and "get autos right" ,?
im.pretty sure im doing it right, pretty sure ive been doing this a lot longer than you and pretty sure youre coming across to everyone whos also checking my journal and knows my plant is rocking it, as a boorish ass.
my journal is finished now though. this forum is lame beyond words now. people like you ruin it.
MATTYMATT726
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Nah, i don't see everyone nedding to tie their fat plants up here XD and definitely not youre plants. You made a mistake. In the picture YOU posted Fast Buds says 8 weeks of FLOWERING time. Mephisto which i grow says their harvest time is feom SEED to HARVEST. Each breeder lists in their own prefered way. You treated the strains you chose like some others breeders, put a time in you're head and its not done so you're crying about it. This is online. Im not here to impress anyone. Its people like you that can't grow them that give autos a bad name. But yeah. I do pretty ok with my autos.
twentyeight.threefive
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EDIT: Apparently I'm making replies to posts a year ago, now too. The necro posters have infected me I think.
I have a BCN XXL growing now. It didn't really start to indicate it was flowering until about day 45, about that 6 week timeframe.
Bottom left one is the BCN to give you an idea of it at day 45 on 11/14/2020
This is the BCN XXL this morning day 62, 12/2/2020: 17 days of growth
