Province delays sales of cannabis vapes, angering producers and retailers

gb123

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The province has indefinitely postponed the legal sales of cannabis vapes, a move that’s ignited anger among producers and retailers.

With the second phase of cannabis legalization involving the sale of edibles and other derivatives to take effect in Alberta, a major component of that, vaping cartridges, has been put on hold by the provincial government, which has cited health concerns.

Just as Health Canada announced it was launching a testing regime of vaping products that are already legally available in some provinces, the Alberta government said it, too, would review their safety.

“AGLC and government are considering various aspects related to cannabis vape products to determine whether or not they will be available for consumer purchase in Alberta,” says a statement from Alberta Gaming, Liquor and Cannabis, the provincial regulator.

“As you have likely seen, there have been recent reports about the health effects of vaping. As a result, vape products will not be available in the initial launch of edibles, extracts and topicals.”

The AGLC said a decision on the availability of vaping products will be made “early in the new year.”

Other products, such as edibles, beverages and topicals, are expected to be in stores by mid-month, said the AGLC.

The move comes after Newfoundland and Labrador and Quebec banned cannabis vapes, while Nova Scotia has prohibited flavoured versions.

More than 50 deaths linked to vaping have been reported to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and more than a dozen lung-related illnesses have been documented in Canada — the majority of the cases blamed on illegal cannabis vapes.

The CDC says vitamin E acetate, a thickener added to THC vapes, is a likely culprit in many of the deaths and injuries.

Members of Alberta’s licensed cannabis industry say they’ve been blindsided by the postponement, which they insist will add uncertainty to a sector already struggling financially.

“The industry hasn’t found its feet yet and these kinds of decisions made without consultation with the industry is very concerning,” said Nathan Mison, chairman of the Alberta Cannabis Council, which represents retailers and producers.

“People are very concerned — licensed producers have spent a lot of time and money on cannabis legalization 2.0.”


Nathan Mison of Fire and Flower Cannabis Co. opening on the first day of legalized cannabis in Edmonton, October 16, 2018. Ed Kaiser/Postmedia


In the first year of recreational legalization, the cannabis sector has been challenged by government regulations, taxes, a product shortage and a durable black market.

Members of the council said they’ve been told by the province that the hold on vaping products will last at least until March.

Mison said he fears taxpayers will take a hit since provincial wholesaler AGLC has almost certainly already purchased vaping products for distribution to retailers.

And he said he has confidence in the safety of vapes produced by licensed firms overseen by Health Canada.

“(Governments) are making regulatory policy based on public fear and ignorance, and the only winners in that are the black market,” said Mison.

The products, he said, are already proving a hit in Saskatchewan where they’ve “been flying off the shelves.”

In October, Alberta announced a review of its tobacco policy with the possibility it could add laws governing e-cigarettes by next spring.

Mison said it appears cannabis vapes are now being included in that review “after the government told us they wouldn’t be.”

In a product unveiling to Alberta retailers last month in Calgary, executives with the country’s largest cannabis company, Canopy Growth, acknowledged the controversy over the health effects of vaping but insisted its products were safe, citing rigorous lab testing that rules out contaminants.

“It’s quite frankly impossible to ignore the dangers,” said the company’s chief technical officer Peter Popplewell.

“But (Canopy Growth) products are products you can use with confidence and retailers can sell with pride . . . doing things right means exceeding Health Canada regulations.”


In this Aug. 28, 2019, photo a man exhales while smoking an e-cigarette in Portland, Maine. Robert F. Bukaty / THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


The province’s reluctance in releasing THC vapes is understandable, as is the industry’s frustration, said Ashley Newman, a Calgary retailer and vice-chair of the Alberta Cannabis Council.

“We need to make sure they’re safe but it will affect business and the economy,” said Newman.

Whatever the merits of Alberta’s vaping delay, Newman said she’s not surprised it’s come to this.

“There’s been a lot of bad publicity — I kind of saw this coming,” she said.
 

Hust17

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Why anyone would vape from those little sticks is beyond me. I guess I could see it to try and stop smoking cigs.
 

The Hippy

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The misinformation in these vaping news stories is completely amazing to me. So much mixing of information it's beyond comprehension.
They lump vaping into one category and all the horrors of the issue are layed on all vaping. It would seem at this point that E-acetate is the culprit to the health issues.
E-acetate is not in the basic cartridge itself from my understanding. It's in the mixture that some folks are filling the carts with. The cartridge isn't to blame for e-acetate. It's in the made up juice some folks are using to flavor the cartridges with. I've seen these flavoring and they actually state that they have e-acetate right in there.
I also think the e-acetate problem is stemming from the legal vape store nicotine crap they sell to folks to vape with. Those stores are to blame. Not the BM vape cartridge suppliers. The BM companies I know of that supply vape carts in flavors DO NOT USE E-ACETATE in their carts. They don't need to. Why would they. They use nice pure natural terpenes as the flavor and that's it. I think the two different vape worlds are being mixed unfairly together.
If natural terpenes are harmful then we're all in trouble because they're used in all kinds of food products we consume.
All the carts from the BM companies I've seen are distillate and terpenes or honey oil and terpenes.
 
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The Hippy

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At first it was all about the legal vape store selling this stuff. Then all of a sudden it switched to blaming the BM vape industry. Yet the BM vapes guys I know of never had E-acetate in their carts ever anyway.
Of course blame the BM as per usual for all the evil stuff the LP's sell or produce.
The media completely skewed it the wrong way IMO. It's the legal vape world and vape store selling the nicotine crap filling juice that is the real culprits not BM vape carts .
Everyone in the BM I know wants repeat sales. Not unhappy sick customers.
I don't buy this media vape nonsense
 

Egzoset

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Simple logic in most Canadian provinces (except Québec): just follow "The Shortest Path of Lesser Transformation", e.g. direct from one's own "bio" home-grown trichomes ideally...
 

cheemo

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At first it was all about the legal vape store selling this stuff. Then all of a sudden it switched to blaming the BM vape industry. Yet the BM vapes guys I know of never had E-acetate in their carts ever anyway.
Of course blame the BM as per usual for all the evil stuff the LP's sell or produce.
The media completely skewed it the wrong way IMO. It's the legal vape world and vape store selling the nicotine crap filling juice that is the real culprits not BM vape carts .
Everyone in the BM I know wants repeat sales. Not unhappy sick customers.
I don't buy this media vape nonsense
vitamin e acetate has only been found in black market THC carts. not one single flavoured nicotine e juice has EVER tested positive for vitamin e acetate. it was developed and sold specifically to cut the THC product to increase profits. google "honey cut"....it's sole purpose was to add to THC carts to dilute the product. these are the facts.
 

The Hippy

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vitamin e acetate has only been found in black market THC carts. not one single flavoured nicotine e juice has EVER tested positive for vitamin e acetate. it was developed and sold specifically to cut the THC product to increase profits. google "honey cut"....it's sole purpose was to add to THC carts to dilute the product. these are the facts.
Thank you for that info. I've never seen that stuff. I don't know if that product made it to Canada though. But I do know of others here that contain it.
 

The Hippy

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vitamin e acetate has only been found in black market THC carts. not one single flavoured nicotine e juice has EVER tested positive for vitamin e acetate. it was developed and sold specifically to cut the THC product to increase profits. google "honey cut"....it's sole purpose was to add to THC carts to dilute the product. these are the facts.
To say E-acetate isn't or hasn't been in vape stores seems hard to believe.
 

WHATFG

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“The industry hasn’t found its feet yet and these kinds of decisions made without consultation with the industry is very concerning,” said Nathan Mison, chairman of the Alberta Cannabis Council, which represents retailers and producers.

“People are very concerned — licensed producers have spent a lot of time and money on cannabis legalization 2.0.”
Since when is industry consulted on a public health issue?....is people who are concerned or is the LPs?
And he said he has confidence in the safety of vapes produced by licensed firms overseen by Health Canada.
Hahahahaha hahahahaha.....HC...or saviour!
But (Canopy Growth) products are products you can use with confidence and retailers can sell with pride . . . doing things right means exceeding Health Canada regulations.”
Obviously been smoking his own product...
 
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