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THT

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We'll I've got the better looking uptown curing now, the rest of the uptown seeds I had are wet, and I've got some of the F1 offspring from last round also going. This is probably not the right thread for it, but the Super Silver Haze x Uptown Brown is a monster and I figured I'd share. Every single one has been a shorter stocky but sturdy monster plant with great branching and these massive leaves. Neither parent had the massive leaves for reference. I'll stop back in a little bit and post some shots of the dried uptowns.

I hope you can get a feel for how stupid big the leaf in the foreground is.
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FluffsTravels

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Having completed multiple runs with several different Nevilles hazes, Northern light #5's and even a few different runs of NL5/Haze, I can say definitively they are not the same. Maybe not even related. The only similarities are in some of the incense and woody type smells
When is the last time you ran NL5xHaze? Was it from Sensi? How was it? It was the first strain I ever grew (1995). I have a fondness toward it. I'd love to run it again just out of curiosity and nostalgia.
 
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BigSco508

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We'll I've got the better looking uptown curing now, the rest of the uptown seeds I had are wet, and I've got some of the F1 offspring from last round also going. This is probably not the right thread for it, but the Super Silver Haze x Uptown Brown is a monster and I figured I'd share. Every single one has been a shorter stocky but sturdy monster plant with great branching and these massive leaves. Neither parent had the massive leaves for reference. I'll stop back in a little bit and post some shots of the dried uptowns.

I hope you can get a feel for how stupid big the leaf in the foreground is.
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Looks like a Maple tree leaf no ?
 

THT

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When is the last time you ran NL5xHaze? Was it from Sensi? How was it? It was the first strain I ever grew (1995). I have a fondness toward it. I'd love to run it again just out of curiosity and nostalgia.
Swami was the breeder of the last nl5/haze I ran, and it was middle of last year.
 

FluffsTravels

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Swami was the breeder of the last nl5/haze I ran, and it was middle of last year.
Gotcha. What were your thoughts on it? Many say the old strains are subpar compared to all the new crosses. Back in the day... 80+ days to finish, good resin, great yield, peppery, spicy with a race car high. Of course, I was a beginner and not a good grower.
 
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crisnpropa

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Anybody attending Seedcon in Millbury, MA on March 21-22? Hoping to acquire some piff seeds.
Tried messaging JJ through Instagram, but he doesn't respond.
 

SFnone

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I've heard of purple haze (all in my brain), but that's about it.
no, the purple haze in the Hendrix song was about acid, the purple haze strain is a haze with color. "piff" was the slang for killer haze in nyc at one point. I've never had the pleasure of the real stuff back in the day, but have been told the yellow/brown stuff was the best. The thing is, nobody seems to really know what the fuck it was, but supposedly it was the shit. JJ used to deal in nyc before he went legit, and has created what he feels is a close representation. Says piff s1 on the newer packs, but the original uptown brown has it labeled as Cuban black haze brown pheno, which makes sense, because Bodhi had a "piff" strain that had Cuban black haze as well, (which later became his bandaid haze, because it heals all wounds). I asked him (JJ) at one point through email what the difference between the original uptown brown and the bx is, and he said it was the same thing... that the same mother cut was used... so I am betting "piff" is probably Cuban black haze brown pheno, found through s1ing his and money mike's very coveted cut. I am not sure if the "Cuban" black haze is the same as the west coast black haze, which is known to be Colombian/purple haze. I grew snow high's panama black which is black haze x panama red, at the same time as top dawg's uptown brown, and for structure, it looked nothing at all like uptown brown, which makes me think they are different. Of course, JJ is using an s1, so... Both had really good highs... I think the uptown was a little more racy and fast hitting, and panama black was a little more trippy and a slight creeper (cure really makes a difference on that one). I made seeds of those two crossed, but the cold kind of messed up that one plant, so I only got a handful of fully ripe seeds... plan on working it and passing f2s of that cross out when I can to see what people who have had the real thing think. oh yeah, and the piff is supposed to have a very distinct smell- the uptown brown (original, not bx) that I grew definitely had a unique smell, but I honestly can't begin to say what it is. I'll leave that to the experts on piff. In short, piff is legendary.
 

Jameshaze999

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  • If you want real nyc haze . Mr nice mango haze was supposed to be very close . People who tried the right pheno said so . Also mr nice nl5 haze or nevile haze rumored to be similar . Phenos of afghan haze might take you there also .im looking at topdawgs mango nigerian f2's. His uptown brown might be what to look for . Anything you try though you probably going to have to look at multiple packs to find the right one . Im interested in some haze- chem crosses . Mango A5 x 91 chem bx . Or super silver haze x stardawg. Super silver sour diesel haze was fire . Id cross a killer haze probably from mr nice to a topdawg diesel . Maybe DUD 91 or ONYCD . Something dank . D/95 to a nl#5haze . Killer cross on paper . Mr nice new selection on nl#5 was super dope. What i hear is that the new mr nice is different . Since they moved out of switzerland things changed . Not sure . Something about them loosing the original parent stock . Can anyone confirm this at least 4 me? Had a older pack of the afghan haze . Grew it out had to move 2 weeks before it was ready . Looked like the dankest shit ever . Have a newer pack from around 2010 or 11 . I will try again .
 
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