The Impeachment Of Donald Trump

Grandpapy

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Oh yes Orange man, The one who has lowered our standing and standard of living in the world.

Why not tax the court system cause your pride is hurt. So Bigly!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Not sure, didn't watch it.
But I remember hearing about a comedian hide behind the fact the he's a comedian after he said something that wasn't true or some shit, not sure. Might have been Jon Stewart... Idk
Your concern for the truth is touching, Donald told over 16,000 lies, ya must hate his guts, ya think he would apologize for all the nasty things he said. Comedians have a low tolerance for bullshit, something you have yet to demonstrate. All comedians have to do with Trump is read the news on stage, no need to lie, ya can't make this shit up anyway, the truth is stranger than fiction.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Barr or his boss might be impeached soon and he could have the law enforced on himself, in the time left to Trump I don't think this bullshit will even get off the ground. Barr might soon be in a legal fight of his own for his freedom, sure as shit he did illegal stuff for Donald and is spending more time now covering his ass. Barr is apparently mentioned in Boltons book too, he was in the "loop" and the loop is now a noose.
 

Justin-case

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hanimmal

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So I looked at that and at the bottom was pretty un-suprised to see all those names are from the deep south:
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I highlighted a random one to search and got this as the top hit:
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WTF is 'President' on there in her wiki description? I am guessing you need to be indoctrinated before you can get appointed by Trump.
 

TacoMac

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Only two parts of it are in fact bad and they're listed back to back:

  • Refusals by State and local prosecutors to enforce laws or prosecute categories of crimes;
  • The need to promote public confidence and respect for the law and law enforcement officers; and
The first suggests that the federal government would begin to dictate to states how they prosecute offenders. That's going to cause more than a bit of trouble. Just on its face, it's looking like a move to create more mandatory jail sentences to "get tough" on crime. (Read as fill up private prisons their friends own to milk the taxpayers for more money.)

The second is also problematic in that it suggests that they're going to make officers more, for lack of a better word, "godlike". The problem with that is that so many are in the news now for crimes themselves that it's not going to be tenable, so you might see such old laws as "insulting a police officer" begin to be enforced for even the slightest infraction.

Both, as you say, look really, really bad.
 

captainmorgan

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Only two parts of it are in fact bad and they're listed back to back:

  • Refusals by State and local prosecutors to enforce laws or prosecute categories of crimes;
  • The need to promote public confidence and respect for the law and law enforcement officers; and
The first suggests that the federal government would begin to dictate to states how they prosecute offenders. That's going to cause more than a bit of trouble. Just on its face, it's looking like a move to create more mandatory jail sentences to "get tough" on crime. (Read as fill up private prisons their friends own to milk the taxpayers for more money.)

The second is also problematic in that it suggests that they're going to make officers more, for lack of a better word, "godlike". The problem with that is that so many are in the news now for crimes themselves that it's not going to be tenable, so you might see such old laws as "insulting a police officer" begin to be enforced for even the slightest infraction.

Both, as you say, look really, really bad.
If you look at what is already available with AI and real time tracking and what's to come, this one scares the shit out of me and should scare you too. Look into Peter Thiel and what he's doing.


"The effects of technological innovations on law enforcement and the criminal justice system, including the challenges and opportunities presented by such innovations."
 

Justin-case

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Only two parts of it are in fact bad and they're listed back to back:

  • Refusals by State and local prosecutors to enforce laws or prosecute categories of crimes;
  • The need to promote public confidence and respect for the law and law enforcement officers; and
The first suggests that the federal government would begin to dictate to states how they prosecute offenders. That's going to cause more than a bit of trouble. Just on its face, it's looking like a move to create more mandatory jail sentences to "get tough" on crime. (Read as fill up private prisons their friends own to milk the taxpayers for more money.)

The second is also problematic in that it suggests that they're going to make officers more, for lack of a better word, "godlike". The problem with that is that so many are in the news now for crimes themselves that it's not going to be tenable, so you might see such old laws as "insulting a police officer" begin to be enforced for even the slightest infraction.

Both, as you say, look really, really bad.
I interpreted the first as a refusal to enforce immigration laws by local law enforcement. Trump always be bitching about the sanctuary cities. Either way, nothing will happen for a year, and in all likelihood Billy Barr will be being indicted shortly after.
 

Justin-case

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States can't enforce immigration law. That is the domain of the federal government only. So that has nothing to do with it.
Trump, follow the law, lol. Good one. He only bitched about sanctuary cities 24/7 for a year straight. Anyway just a guess, which is all you can do with this administration.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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I interpreted the first as a refusal to enforce immigration laws by local law enforcement. Trump always be bitching about the sanctuary cities. Either way, nothing will happen for a year, and in all likelihood Billy Barr will be being indicted shortly after.
From what I've read, if the democrats win it all in 2020 Billy Barr has serious legal issues ahead of him. unless he's got a pardon in his pocket and even then it might be challenged because Trump was part of the conspiracy and would be a codefendant. I don't think the democrats would have to raise a finger to do him either, the new AG, federal prosecutors and lifers in the DOJ will want his fucking head. All the former senior DOJ people I've seen on TV are pretty pisssed at Barr and figure he betrayed his oath and office. When the FBI is let off the leash they will make quick work of this stuff, much has been done already, there will also be a lot of grand juries looking into all aspects of this shit.

Other than a pardon it's hard to see how Bill Barr will avoid an orange jumpsuit after a democratic win. It's amazing he hasn't recused himself from the Ukraine affair and still has his thumb on the scales of justice, he must be desperate too. They say it's not the crime that often gets them, but the cover up, in this case both the crime and the cover up might be used against Barr.
 

hanimmal

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@TacoMac I have been dying to ask you this:

Can the President be tried in a military court? Since he is 'Commander in Chief'?

I know it is doubtful, but was just curious if you had any insight into if this is possible.
 

Justin-case

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From what I've read, if the democrats win it all in 2020 Billy Barr has serious legal issues ahead of him. unless he's got a pardon in his pocket and even then it might be challenged because Trump was part of the conspiracy and would be a codefendant. I don't think the democrats would have to raise a finger to do him either, the new AG, federal prosecutors and lifers in the DOJ will want his fucking head. All the former senior DOJ people I've seen on TV are pretty pisssed at Barr and figure he betrayed his oath and office. When the FBI is let off the leash they will make quick work of this stuff, much has been done already, there will also be a lot of grand juries looking into all aspects of this shit.

Other than a pardon it's hard to see how Bill Barr will avoid an orange jumpsuit after a democratic win. It's amazing he hasn't recused himself from the Ukraine affair and still has his thumb on the scales of justice, he must be desperate too. They say it's not the crime that often gets them, but the cover up, in this case both the crime and the cover up might be used against Barr.
Yep, pretty sure he lied under oath to congress.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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@TacoMac I have been dying to ask you this:

Can the President be tried in a military court? Since he is 'Commander in Chief'?

I know it is doubtful, but was just curious if you had any insight into if this is possible.
The commander and chief is a civilian, impeachment, and removal, then criminal and civil court, where Donald might be spending a lot of "quality" time.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Yep, pretty sure he lied under oath to congress.
That too, but he was in the "loop" and that means being a party to a criminal conspiracy that is causing a presidential impeachment, he needs to recuse himself now. I think Bill is gonna have lots of legal issues in his future, if the democrats win in 2020, he makes the DOJ look like shit and a lot of legal people are mad as Hell about it.
 
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