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[budolskie]

Yo guys I'm back, hoping everyone is well and im hoping to get a 8x4 going in next couple weeks

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

sorey to hear that bru. was it the dog regs?

No fem

 

[angryblackman]

I'm all out of Dogs in both reg and fem.

 

[Jimmy the vest uk]

These 2 plemons i got on the go are looking good 4 weeks into flower. But the clones from them which are under 24 hr light seem to be budding up somehow? I did notice huge preflowers on the plemon compared to the others i got on the go which are deep psycho vurballen and dippy ellsy all of which clones look normal in veg. Anyone got any ideas on whats going on? Its like they got autoflower in them or something!

 

[HydroRed]

These 2 plemons i got on the go are looking good 4 weeks into flower. But the clones from them which are under 24 hr light seem to be budding up somehow? I did notice huge preflowers on the plemon compared to the others i got on the go which are deep psycho vurballen and dippy ellsy all of which clones look normal in veg. Anyone got any ideas on whats going on? Its like they got autoflower in them or something!

I ran some just like that and they were absolute MONSTERS. It was a "1 n done" though because like you experienced, it was on auto pilot even under 24hrs of light. I did find my keeper on a following run of seed though. It's a truly unique strain in a class all its own.

 

[Jimmy the vest uk]

I ran some just like that and they were absolute MONSTERS. It was a "1 n done" though because like you experienced, it was on auto pilot even under 24hrs of light. I did find my keeper on a following run of seed though. It's a truly unique strain in a class all its own.

thanks for heads up

 

[Jimmy the vest uk]

What up gang. Hello dts. I’ve planned 100 of your seeds and always 99% germination. This time I couldn’t get one to make it. Had some sprout but die right after. And others not popped at all. Thank you though for the seeds. Wanted to give you the feed back. Wish I know someone in Cali with dog clones. Have some pcg, clones can trade

how can this be possible? Would you say its the seeds or how you treated them?

 

[HydroRed]

how can this be possible? Would you say its the seeds or how you treated them?

TBH, I really cant answer that. Maybe there were recessive ruderalis genes in the Plemon strain somewhere that surface every 1 in 100 seeds or are sensitive to being grown in a certain manner? I never had it on any other strain I've grown but that 1 seed. My other Plemons didnt do that. I had a wonderful momma I kept around for about a year or so with zero issues.

 

[Jimmy the vest uk]

Need help, long story, just deleted loads of the story to not bore anyone i get carried away sometimes i have no social media at all just this rollitup chat room, basically spider mite problem, list of everything i do sometimes multiple at same time anyone got any other ideas?
1. pyrethran pesticides ( after i realised how bad these are i never used again)
2. diatomacious earth applied after every application of pesticide or alcohol mix
3. 50% isopropyl alcohol 50% water with a nice amount of fairy washing up liquid dipping and spraying everything 10 times in 20 days also the complete grow area trays underneath pot rims everything
4. Spidermite predator mites which worked well in the small chambers where i could keep humidity up but useless in flower room.
5. dipping plants in liquid oxygen mix at a dose of 250 ml per 20 litre water dipping pot
6.smoke bombs
7. leaf coat from biobizz after every dip
8. getting garden hose and blasting each plant trying to knock off as many live mites as i can outside in the cold then dipping and spraying.
9. beneficial nematodes watered into soil to attack the thrip when its in the stage when its in the soil.
10. grease ring around stem of the plant to stop the baby thrips travelling up after they hatch from soil( mites can spray webs so i know it dont work for them)
thats about it so far my next idea is to buy a massive humidifier to raise the humidity to allow the predator mites to do there job

 

[Jimmy the vest uk]

TBH, I really cant answer that. Maybe there were recessive ruderalis genes in the Plemon strain somewhere that surface every 1 in 100 seeds or are sensitive to being grown in a certain manner? I never had it on any other strain I've grown but that 1 seed. My other Plemons didnt do that. I had a wonderful momma I kept around for about a year or so with zero issues.

true it was a stupid question i am actually drunk right now but i dont think i was when i asked question any way, basically your little plemon clones that went auto and started looking like a bush of bud in 24 veg did you chuck them out. I did turn to 18/6 in veg before taking cuts im wondering if at 24 hr veg she might be ok, the clones do look like there revegging?

 

[Jimmy the vest uk]

true it was a stupid question i am actually drunk right now but i dont think i was when i asked question any way, basically your little plemon clones that went auto and started looking like a bush of bud in 24 veg did you chuck them out. I did turn to 18/6 in veg before taking cuts im wondering if at 24 hr veg she might be ok, the clones do look like there revegging?

No i was drunk when i replied my bad

 

[HydroRed]

Need help, long story, just deleted loads of the story to not bore anyone i get carried away sometimes i have no social media at all just this rollitup chat room, basically spider mite problem, list of everything i do sometimes multiple at same time anyone got any other ideas?
1. pyrethran pesticides ( after i realised how bad these are i never used again)
2. diatomacious earth applied after every application of pesticide or alcohol mix
3. 50% isopropyl alcohol 50% water with a nice amount of fairy washing up liquid dipping and spraying everything 10 times in 20 days also the complete grow area trays underneath pot rims everything
4. Spidermite predator mites which worked well in the small chambers where i could keep humidity up but useless in flower room.
5. dipping plants in liquid oxygen mix at a dose of 250 ml per 20 litre water dipping pot
6.smoke bombs
7. leaf coat from biobizz after every dip
8. getting garden hose and blasting each plant trying to knock off as many live mites as i can outside in the cold then dipping and spraying.
9. beneficial nematodes watered into soil to attack the thrip when its in the stage when its in the soil.
10. grease ring around stem of the plant to stop the baby thrips travelling up after they hatch from soil( mites can spray webs so i know it dont work for them)
thats about it so far my next idea is to buy a massive humidifier to raise the humidity to allow the predator mites to do there job

Monterey brand Spinosad is listed to control spider mites as well as Azamax. I dont have any experience with either for spider mites, but I do know that the Monterey worked amazing at getting rid of thrips and springtails in like 2-3 days. Talking total eradication. I did however have excellent results with pyrethrin bombs used in succession. I had Russet Mites some years back and it worked aces in getting rid of them, but you gotta do it in a certain order to ensure total eradication as well as not allowing them to build up an immunity/tolerance to the chemicals.
Did you have issues using the pyrethrins? How did you apply and how many times over what time period?

true it was a stupid question i am actually drunk right now but i dont think i was when i asked question any way, basically your little plemon clones that went auto and started looking like a bush of bud in 24 veg did you chuck them out. I did turn to 18/6 in veg before taking cuts im wondering if at 24 hr veg she might be ok, the clones do look like there revegging?

Ya, I wound up tossing it. I was going to hang on to a cut as a mom but tossed it when I realized it wasnt going to cooperate with my plan. All of my vegging is done under 24/7 light.

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

how can this be possible? Would you say its the seeds or how you treated them?

My be me or both? I have a lot of videos with me growing their seeds always 98% success. Trust me I was sad. Wanted to chuck some dog on a strain I’m growing. They where a gift to I’m just giving my feed back . Some veg porn . Mostly Oakland purp. And a few pgc cookies in their. All clone by me

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

Bump

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

Bump

 

[Jimmy the vest uk]

Monterey brand Spinosad is listed to control spider mites as well as Azamax. I dont have any experience with either for spider mites, but I do know that the Monterey worked amazing at getting rid of thrips and springtails in like 2-3 days. Talking total eradication. I did however have excellent results with pyrethrin bombs used in succession. I had Russet Mites some years back and it worked aces in getting rid of them, but you gotta do it in a certain order to ensure total eradication as well as not allowing them to build up an immunity/tolerance to the chemicals.
Did you have issues using the pyrethrins? How did you apply and how many times over what time period?



Ya, I wound up tossing it. I was going to hang on to a cut as a mom but tossed it when I realized it wasnt going to cooperate with my plan. All of my vegging is done under 24/7 light.

i had heard that spinosad was good for the job, its not available in uk neither is the azamax so i was trying to use what i can get hold of. I can order it from ebayuk with a big shipping cost which i might try but wasnt sure if it would be illegal and taken by customs or something so i didnt bother but am now considering risking it, after hearing of your success with the smoke bombs i have to be honest i have used them but didnt give them an application 1 time every 5 days for 4 applications, like i did with the other stuff so im going to try that again. but not sure if it will do the mites, when i used it it did smash the live thrips but you wont get the eggs so i lost hope in it but as i said didnt carry out a 4 stage application. Plus its pyrethran based.
Im trying to be as organic as possible so i now steer clear of the pyrethrans as i was told by my grow shop that they can stay in your plants for up to 6 months even be present in your new growth like from clones taken a month after application because its systemic or something was the word they used plus the girls did not look good after i hit them with it In liquid form! The smoke bombs didnt hurt so im going to try them again as a last resort
thanks for your help hydro red

 

[Jimmy the vest uk]

TBH, I really cant answer that. Maybe there were recessive ruderalis genes in the Plemon strain somewhere that surface every 1 in 100 seeds or are sensitive to being grown in a certain manner? I never had it on any other strain I've grown but that 1 seed. My other Plemons didnt do that. I had a wonderful momma I kept around for about a year or so with zero issues.

Gonna try get another pack, i had bad germination rate on them too, 3 out of 10 but got 2 girls and clones from both of them are doing same thing, shame because the big girls look great 4 weeks into flip look like there going to be big yield or finish earlier than everything else which would be great if i could keep clones

 

[DonBrennon]

i had heard that spinosad was good for the job, its not available in uk neither is the azamax so i was trying to use what i can get hold of. I can order it from ebayuk with a big shipping cost which i might try but wasnt sure if it would be illegal and taken by customs or something so i didnt bother but am now considering risking it, after hearing of your success with the smoke bombs i have to be honest i have used them but didnt give them an application 1 time every 5 days for 4 applications, like i did with the other stuff so im going to try that again. but not sure if it will do the mites, when i used it it did smash the live thrips but you wont get the eggs so i lost hope in it but as i said didnt carry out a 4 stage application. Plus its pyrethran based.
Im trying to be as organic as possible so i now steer clear of the pyrethrans as i was told by my grow shop that they can stay in your plants for up to 6 months even be present in your new growth like from clones taken a month after application because its systemic or something was the word they used plus the girls did not look good after i hit them with it In liquid form! The smoke bombs didnt hurt so im going to try them again as a last resort
thanks for your help hydro red

This stuff contains spinosad, I've used it successfully to eradicate thrip before. It can be dissolved in water and sprayed on the plants or sprinkled on your substrate and watered in to catch any soil dwellers.

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[HydroRed]

i had heard that spinosad was good for the job, its not available in uk neither is the azamax so i was trying to use what i can get hold of. I can order it from ebayuk with a big shipping cost which i might try but wasnt sure if it would be illegal and taken by customs or something so i didnt bother but am now considering risking it, after hearing of your success with the smoke bombs i have to be honest i have used them but didnt give them an application 1 time every 5 days for 4 applications, like i did with the other stuff so im going to try that again. but not sure if it will do the mites, when i used it it did smash the live thrips but you wont get the eggs so i lost hope in it but as i said didnt carry out a 4 stage application. Plus its pyrethran based.
Im trying to be as organic as possible so i now steer clear of the pyrethrans as i was told by my grow shop that they can stay in your plants for up to 6 months even be present in your new growth like from clones taken a month after application because its systemic or something was the word they used plus the girls did not look good after i hit them with it In liquid form! The smoke bombs didnt hurt so im going to try them again as a last resort
thanks for your help hydro red

If you use the bombs, be sure to keep 3 days in between applications. The reason for this, is that the mites will drop any larvae in a last ditch effort to remain. The first application is for the adults. The second is for the larvae and remaining adults that may have lived through the first. The third is for good measure. Mites can build a tolerance to chemicals applied so hit hard and fast, then change up the routine and chemical to prevent once you eradicate. I am not 100% but I dont believe the half life of pyrethrins are nearlyas long as you were told. I believe that air & light will diminish the effectiveness and how long it is on the plant (which if memory serves me correctly was about 3 days). Not to mention pyrethrins are natural extracts from a plant & are NOT a systemic insectiside. Best of luck!

 

[Jimmy the vest uk]

If you use the bombs, be sure to keep 3 days in between applications. The reason for this, is that the mites will drop any larvae in a last ditch effort to remain. The first application is for the adults. The second is for the larvae and remaining adults that may have lived through the first. The third is for good measure. Mites can build a tolerance to chemicals applied so hit hard and fast, then change up the routine and chemical to prevent once you eradicate. I am not 100% but I dont believe the half life of pyrethrins are nearlyas long as you were told. I believe that air & light will diminish the effectiveness and how long it is on the plant (which if memory serves me correctly was about 3 days). Not to mention pyrethrins are natural extracts from a plant & are NOT a systemic insectiside. Best of luck!

How about 4 weeks into flower? Still use the smoke bombs?