Old-ass Bernie

Bugeye

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here is the problem with bernie, (amongst other things) ... he may very well win the democratic nomination, but it might be something like 60-40 of dems who vote for him. of the 40% that don't vote for him, there WILL be people who don't vote for him in the main election either, or straight up vote for trump- whether that be because they find him too liberal, or they refuse to reward those who screwed Hillary and helped put trump in the white house to begin with, or because they just don't fall for the bs he shouts out like his mainly white millennial base does. On the flip side, if he doesn't win the nomination, there is the risk of his supporters not voting (again), in an attempt to prove some point that nobody else can see or understand. it sounds stupid, but people are stupid... and petty and opinionated... and with the republicans already rigging the elections, bernie just being in it at all creates the potential for an easy win (and a win that is difficult to dispute) on the republican's side... which is why trump and the gop wants him to be the nom.

and if Stacy Abrams goes as a vp it will probably be with Biden. She has already come to his defense several times, and I think she had a meeting with Obama at one point, who is pro Biden. But who knows, a lot of people are thinking it might be Kamala Harris that goes with Biden.
I think you are correct. But if Bernie can make it to the convention with more delegates than anyone else, then it will be in the party's best interest to go with him vs. a contested convention that goes to someone else. Looks to me like it may be down to Mayor Pete and Bernie at this point. I suspect the DNC will go all in for Pete when Biden officially quits. Getting Pete to a plurality for the convention will save the party the embarrassment of screwing over Bernie again.
 

hanimmal

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I think you are correct. But if Bernie can make it to the convention with more delegates than anyone else, then it will be in the party's best interest to go with him vs. a contested convention that goes to someone else. Looks to me like it may be down to Mayor Pete and Bernie at this point. I suspect the DNC will go all in for Pete when Biden officially quits. Getting Pete to a plurality for the convention will save the party the embarrassment of screwing over Bernie again.
Super Tuesday is when it will shake out, have patience, Trump has plenty of time to pull more shit, he could screw this up yet.
 

abandonconflict

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screwing over Bernie again.
I hope they do. The delegates ought to avoid nominating a candidate who isn't a member of their party. This is particularly true considering he is dying. Statistically speaking, his chances of survivng even two years are dismal. I hope the delegates do their jobs.
 

Bugeye

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I hope they do. The delegates ought to avoid nominating a candidate who isn't a member of their party. This is particularly true considering he is dying. Statistically speaking, his chances of survivng even two years are dismal. I hope the delegates do their jobs.
I don’t understand all the excitement at a Bernie rally with the same old stump speech, but there is excitement.
 
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