Novel coronavirus introduced to humans in exotic animal meat market.

DIY-HP-LED

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Jesus Christ! Time to hit the fucking panic button! It looks like the spanish flu pandemic on steroids, this changes things considerably and things are gonna get ramped up a notch or two.
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Coronavirus is 20x Deadlier than the Flu, Shocking New Data Reveals
New analysis shows coronavirus is at least 20 times more fatal than the flu, quashing any comparison between the virus and the seasonal flu.


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The coronavirus outbreak is significantly more fatal than the seasonal flu, contrary to some studies, says a new study.| Source: Kyodo News via AP


  • The coronavirus (COVID-19) is much deadlier than the seasonal flu with a fatality rate of 2.3 percent.
  • Comparisons between the virus and the flu are irrational.
  • COVID-19 has caused a decline in the economic sentiment of major countries like Germany.
When coronavirus was first publicized, many were quick to drive the narrative that the seasonal flu is more dangerous than the contagious virus. New analysis shows COVID-19 is at least 20 times more fatal than the flu.
Irresponsible To Claim Flu Is Worse Than The Wuhan Coronavirus
The narrative that the seasonal flu is worse than coronavirus widely spread in early February, possibly in an attempt to downplay how fast the virus can spread.
Several publications heavily criticized analysts and newspapers that compared the flu to coronavirus for valid reasons, describing it as a poor case of whataboutism.
Out of 44,672 patients confirmed with coronavirus in China, 1,023 individuals had died within a short period after being diagnosed.
That leaves coronavirus with a fatality rate of 2.3 percent. Compared to the season flu’s 0.1 percent, coronavirus is significantly deadlier.
On top of that, coronavirus is more contagious than the flu. A case in Hong Kong showed that the virus spread within an apartment through a pipe, infecting two more individuals.
Coronavirus is more fatal than the flu, spreads faster than the flu, and is more dangerous than the flu.
The current coronavirus count is near 75,000 confirmed cases. | Source: Johns Hopkins data

COVID-19’S Impact Is Unprecedented
Apart from the fatalities the coronavirus outbreak has caused, it has also started to impair major economies around the world.
Julianna Tatelbaum, a reporter at CNBC’s Squawk Box Europe, revealed that the economic sentiment of Germany sharply missed expectations due to the virus outbreak.
She said:
ZEW survey of German economic sentiment sharply MISSES expectations for February as coronavirus concerns take toll on confidence. Current conditions at -15.7 (poll -10.3). Sentiment at 8.7 (poll 21.5). Is bad data actually good though for fiscal spending prospects?
The coronavirus outbreak has led even the biggest companies in the global market such as Apple and Tesla to see a sharp decline in their stock prices.
The stock price of Apple, for instance, plummeted by 4.2 percent in aftermarket trading hours, which is a substantially large single-session drop for a trillion-dollar company.
Apple’s stock takes a fall after a revamped guidance due to the coronavirus outbreak in China. | Source: Shutterstock.com
Such effects have led business and economic sentiment, productivity, and sales of many companies to decline steeply in a relatively short time frame.
The negative impact coronavirus has had on the global economy does not compare to what the seasonal flu has done in previous cycles.
As previously reported by CCN.com, COVID-19 virtually froze the economy of China to the point in which President Xi Jinping had to reaffirm the nation’s focus on economic and social development objectives.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Correction they say it has a death rate of 2%, still a dangerous customer compared to flu
 
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pabloesqobar

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14,000 dead from the flu here in the U.S. just this season. That number will increase. I don't know anyone who's ever died from the flu. Chances are, you will not know someone who died due to the coronavirus.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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14,000 dead from the flu here in the U.S. just this season. That number will increase. I don't know anyone who's ever died from the flu. Chances are, you will not know someone who died due to the coronavirus.
The death rate is said to be 20x higher than flu and it's much more contagious, so the odds of contracting it or knowing of someone who died from it goes up. Healthcare workers are getting it too and some of them are dying young and pretty, so it's not something folks are gonna want drifting around the community. International airline traffic may be banned and schools closed etc.
 

abandonconflict

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The death rate is said to be 20x higher than flu and it's much more contagious, so the odds of contracting it or knowing of someone who died from it goes up. Healthcare workers are getting it too and some of them are dying young and pretty, so it's not something folks are gonna want drifting around the community. International airline traffic may be banned and schools closed etc.
We sure could use a good look at some honest Chinese epidemiological stats...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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We sure could use a good look at some honest Chinese epidemiological stats...
Apparently they are drawing conclusions without it and they will have to slow it down as much as possible until a vaccine is developed. These kind of vaccines can take as little as 6 weeks to be developed these days. I figure a general ban on international air travel before it's over and mass school closings if it gets lose.
 

abandonconflict

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Apparently they are drawing conclusions without it and they will have to slow it down as much as possible until a vaccine is developed. These kind of vaccines can take as little as 6 weeks to be developed these days. I figure a general ban on international air travel before it's over and mass school closings if it gets lose.
No need to close schools, it apparently spares children. Also, this thing isn't peaking until April and that's just the epicenter. The conclusions drawn from data outside of China are miniscule in comparison what could be gleaned from an honest look at PRC stats. It was the CCP cover-up that assured its spread and it's the continued CCP cover-up hampering the response.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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No need to close schools, it apparently spares children. Also, this thing isn't peaking until April and that's just the epicenter. The conclusions drawn from data outside of China are miniscule in comparison what could be gleaned from an honest look at PRC stats. It was the CCP cover-up that assured its spread and it's the continued CCP cover-up hampering the response.
Like I mentioned before this bug will kill the CPP members and their families too, it is very contagious. 30 million dead people and everybody else sick as a dog is gonna be hard for them to cover up. They fucked this up and are covering their asses at everybody else's expense and at this point I doubt the data would be trusted or accurate anyway. The CPP was more worried about the economy than public health and got the worst possible result from both fronts. The typical stupidity of tyrants.
 

abandonconflict

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Like I mentioned before this bug will kill the CPP members and their families too, it is very contagious. 30 million dead people and everybody else sick as a dog is gonna be hard for them to cover up. They fucked this up and are covering their asses at everybody else's expense and at this point I doubt the data would be trusted or accurate anyway. The CPP was more worried about the economy than public health and got the worst possible result from both fronts. The typical stupidity of tyrants.
Exactly, they are actively concealing the extent of the outbreak at the epicenter. The entire country is on lockdown and they have repeatedly refused help from the international community despite their shortages and lack of medical staff. Now that over 1700 of those nurses and doctors are infected, you'd think they'd accept the help of the international community but they seem more focused on keeping Taiwan out of the discussion.

That cruiseship is an interesting epidemiological macrocosm though. Anyway, this thing is still new. As recently as December 31 a doctor who suspected SARS was jailed (he's dead now) and the CCP was reluctantly reporting pneumonia cases to the WHO. The first death didn't even occur until January 7. It is suspected that patient 0 was initially infected in mid November.

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It's in 29 countries now. Asymptomatic carriers are walking around spreading it and we won't even see it reach the levels of what the epicenter looked like in the first week of January for several more weeks. I started this thread on January 27th and people were laughing because they couldn't understand the threat. It was already a phase 5 pandemic at that point.
 

abandonconflict

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To clarify what this means if we're to take the study from the Lancet seriously:

We have to apply it to Wuhan, since that is the incubated epicenter. The other outbreaks in the world are not at the same level of spread yet. Given the April time frame for when the outbreak is projected to peak and underestimating for the sake of conservative numbers, we'll start at 75k and only count on it doubling 8 more times before that outbreak peaks.

We're looking at seeing at least 20 million infected and a 400k dead just in the completely locked down Hubei Province where this thing started by mid April. 3.7 million people will need hospital beds.
 

captainmorgan

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Yeah, I don't think any current health system can deal with 20% of infections needing hospital care. Many people will die because the system is over loaded and there's a shortage of beds,personnel,equipment and medicine.
 

abandonconflict

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Yeah, I don't think any current health system can deal with 20% of infections needing hospital care. Many people will die because the system is over loaded and there's a shortage of beds,personnel,equipment and medicine.
Most of the world's metro areas would have profound difficulty dealing with an outbreak a tenth of that magnitude.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is the scary part, this guy was just 51 and in good health.
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Hospital director in Wuhan, China dies of coronavirus

Since the outbreak of the deadly coronavirus first emerged in Wuhan, China, hospital director Liu Zhiming dedicated his life to treating the thousands of sick patients that poured into his hospital every day. Liu's tireless efforts led him to contract the virus, and he died of it this week, local officials confirmed.


Liu, 51, the director of Wuchang Hospital in Wuhan, died Tuesday morning after "all-out rescue efforts failed," to save him, state broadcaster CCTV reported. He is at least the seventh of the more than 1,700 infected health workers to die of the disease, officially known as COVID-19, The Associated Press reports.

As of Tuesday morning, the disease had killed at least 1,874 people, all but five of them in mainland China. Health workers in China have been one of the hardest-hit groups, working long hours and often without enough assistance.

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Liu's death was initially reported by Chinese media shortly after midnight on Tuesday, but the stories were later deleted and replaced with reports that doctors were still trying to save him.

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Hospital director Liu Zhiming died Tuesday from the coronavirus after fighting tirelessly to treat the outbreak in Wuhan, China. BAIDU
The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission said Liu had been a vital part of fighting the spread of the virus from the beginning, saying he "made important contributions to the prevention and control" of the virus in Wuhan.

Liu grew up in Hubei and graduated from Wuhan University's School of Medicine in 1991. He had a successful career as a chief physician, neurosurgeon and administrator.

Liu's death is being compared to the earlier loss of Dr. Li Wenliang — a Chinese doctor who was threatened by the government after he voiced concerns about the virus in December. Li was lauded on Chinese social media as a hero, and his death from the virus earlier this month prompted a national outpouring of grief as well as anger against the authorities, who were accused of mishandling the crisis.

China has reported a declining daily number of new cases in recent days. The global tally was more than 73,000 confirmed infections as of Tuesday.

The arrival on Monday of 14 infected American evacuees from a cruise ship in Japan brought the total number of cases in the U.S. to at least 29.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Here's hoping you are wrong.

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Maybe he will catch it from one of his undocumented workers at Mar Logo, those folks who have no healthcare coverage or sick days, they would probably be fired if they booked off sick and know it. An infected waiter sneezing on the whole fucking clan would be ironic, someone working in the kitchen could spread it far and wide. Donald likes McDonald's and someone there could be infected too, death by cheeseburger. If this hits North America in a big way the secret service can't protect Donald from it, nobody would be safe.
 
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abandonconflict

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This is the scary part, this guy was just 51 and in good health.
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Hospital director in Wuhan, China dies of coronavirus

Since the outbreak of the deadly coronavirus first emerged in Wuhan, China, hospital director Liu Zhiming dedicated his life to treating the thousands of sick patients that poured into his hospital every day. Liu's tireless efforts led him to contract the virus, and he died of it this week, local officials confirmed.


Liu, 51, the director of Wuchang Hospital in Wuhan, died Tuesday morning after "all-out rescue efforts failed," to save him, state broadcaster CCTV reported. He is at least the seventh of the more than 1,700 infected health workers to die of the disease, officially known as COVID-19, The Associated Press reports.

As of Tuesday morning, the disease had killed at least 1,874 people, all but five of them in mainland China. Health workers in China have been one of the hardest-hit groups, working long hours and often without enough assistance.

Coronavirus More
Liu's death was initially reported by Chinese media shortly after midnight on Tuesday, but the stories were later deleted and replaced with reports that doctors were still trying to save him.

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Hospital director Liu Zhiming died Tuesday from the coronavirus after fighting tirelessly to treat the outbreak in Wuhan, China. BAIDU
The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission said Liu had been a vital part of fighting the spread of the virus from the beginning, saying he "made important contributions to the prevention and control" of the virus in Wuhan.

Liu grew up in Hubei and graduated from Wuhan University's School of Medicine in 1991. He had a successful career as a chief physician, neurosurgeon and administrator.

Liu's death is being compared to the earlier loss of Dr. Li Wenliang — a Chinese doctor who was threatened by the government after he voiced concerns about the virus in December. Li was lauded on Chinese social media as a hero, and his death from the virus earlier this month prompted a national outpouring of grief as well as anger against the authorities, who were accused of mishandling the crisis.

China has reported a declining daily number of new cases in recent days. The global tally was more than 73,000 confirmed infections as of Tuesday.

The arrival on Monday of 14 infected American evacuees from a cruise ship in Japan brought the total number of cases in the U.S. to at least 29.
Highly likely that he had access to antiviral drugs as the hospital director. My guess is that he died of heart failure as a result of the antivirals.
 
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