AP: Report: Director of National Intelligence reports to Congress about Russia boosting Trump in upcoming election. And promptly gets fired.

ChiefRunningPhist

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"get in line". I saw pad say the same authoritarian bullshit too.

What I'm not expecting is for Sanders' cult to "get in line". "Get in line" is what Trump, Sanders and their authoritarian movement expect. Authoritarians, Republicans for example, follow a leader.

Democrats follow their belief. We will rally around our candidate. There will be grumbling by Sanders supporters who never were Democrats and they will do what they did in 2016 when they lost too. 10% will vote for Trump. A significant number will sit it out, saying "give me Sanders or I'll give you Trump". The adults in the room will do their best to defeat Trump.
Lol please.. with that setup sounds like you support Bernie.
 

hanimmal

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Ya you're right, I guess there's zero way to influence people with money aside from giving it to them straight out.
"Influence" is not the same as "buying".

You can influence someone with a very nice night out dropping money like you know you shouldn't. But at the end of the night, you can't pull the I bought you card.
 

kkt3

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The USA is the most morally bankrupt society on the planet. The once proud nation has become the laughing point for the rest of world. You need only look at your leader to see that corruption has once again taken precedence over everything else. Shame on you.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What do you mean by 'buy the convention'. How would that be possible outside of just being able to say it and it sounding good. He would need to get the 2k-ish delagates to win, and it is illegal to give money to get them, so that would mean he broke the law, and yes every American should be pissed if that occurred. Short of that, I am not sure what you mean.
I heard in passing that Bloomberg was hoping for a "brokered convention" and is working towards that, he could deploy his cash most effectively and delegates going in won't matter so much. Bloomberg fears Sanders and Warren more than Trump and will risk splitting the party so he doesn't have to pay more taxes. People become billionaires because of luck, smarts and above all else greed and ambition, Bloomberg exemplifies this by his behavior. Bloomberg needs to focus on Trump if he wants to help the country and forget about buying the nomination, it disgusts and reifies the fear and paranoia of many in the democratic base. Bloomberg didn't pay his dues and it shows in his performance, if money could buy the nomination Tom Styer would be higher than 2%
 

hanimmal

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The USA is the most morally bankrupt society on the planet. The once proud nation has become the laughing point for the rest of world. You need only look at your leader to see that corruption has once again taken precedence over everything else. Shame on you.
 

hanimmal

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I heard in passing that Bloomberg was hoping for a "brokered convention" and is working towards that, he could deploy his cash most effectively and delegates going in won't matter so much. Bloomberg fears Sanders and Warren more than Trump and will risk splitting the party so he doesn't have to pay more taxes. People become billionaires because of luck, smarts and above all else greed and ambition, Bloomberg exemplifies this by his behavior. Bloomberg needs to focus on Trump if he wants to help the country and forget about buying the nomination, it disgusts and reifies the fear and paranoia of many in the democratic base. Bloomberg didn't pay his dues and it shows in his performance, if money could buy the nomination Tom Styer would be higher than 2%
'I heard' is a great way to say something without backing it up.

Bloomberg fears Sanders and Warren more than Trump and will risk splitting the party so he doesn't have to pay more taxes.
Show me one place he said this.

Because I can show you this:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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He doesn't understand what this is all about.
Everyday I'm shocked at the depravity and actions of Trump, nobody figured on Trump, not even Trump apparently, ya can't make this shit up etc.... A lot of Americans were as shocked as I am by the actions of the republicans, Trump has corrupted them at light speed and has turned the lot of them into fucking traitors.

Bloomberg can't buy the delegates by handing them gobs of cash, though he has given lots of cash to community groups and others with a cause and it got him endorsements at least and apparently a foot in the door with the recent rules change regarding the debates, a gazillion dollar donation to the DNC will do that....
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Lol please.. with that setup sounds like you support Bernie.
I would expect a number of right wing democrats and former republicans would sit it out too if Bernie was the nominee, so that works both ways with extremists. Getting in line is voluntary in the context of the democratic side, republicans get mean tweets, death threats and bricks thrown through their windows.
 

hanimmal

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Everyday I'm shocked at the depravity and actions of Trump, nobody figured on Trump, ot even Trump apparently, ya can't make this shit up etc.... A lot of Americans were as shocked as I am by the actions of the republicans, Trump has corrupted them at light speed and has turned the lot of them into fucking traitors.

Bloomberg can't buy the delegates by handing them gobs of cash, though he has given lots of cash to community groups and others with a cause and it got him endorsements at least and apparently a foot in the door with the recent rules change regarding the debates, a gazillion dollar donation to the DNC will do that....
He might get a foot in the door, but he would still have to win their support. Nobody should just expect to be handed the Democratic nominee if they can't win it outright.

Found a really good link to the tax adjustments Bloomberg enacted while Mayor in New York that wipes out the talking point he is opposed to raising taxes for the wealthy.
https://www.empirecenter.org/publications/pricing-the-luxury-product-new-york-city-taxes-under-mayor-bloomberg/
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Fogdog

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Everyday I'm shocked at the depravity and actions of Trump, nobody figured on Trump, ot even Trump apparently, ya can't make this shit up etc.... A lot of Americans were as shocked as I am by the actions of the republicans, Trump has corrupted them at light speed and has turned the lot of them into fucking traitors.

Bloomberg can't buy the delegates by handing them gobs of cash, though he has given lots of cash to community groups and others with a cause and it got him endorsements at least and apparently a foot in the door with the recent rules change regarding the debates, a gazillion dollar donation to the DNC will do that....
The only way Bloomberg wins is if he can convince enough Democratic Party voters to choose him in the primary. We won't be bought.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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'I heard' is a great way to say something without backing it up.


Show me one place he said this.

Because I can show you this:
Sorry, I don't have the reference, but it's not quite the same as people are saying... It was a pundit on one of the talking head shows I believe and since I have no real dog in the fight... I did not say Bloomberg said it, I believe it was a journalist pundit who theorized as to Bloomberg's actions. If he comes out of the convention the winner after bullshit and acrimony people will say he bought the nomination, perception is everything in this business.
 

hanimmal

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Sorry, I don't have the reference, but it's not quite the same as people are saying... It was a pundit on one of the talking head shows I believe and since I have no real dog in the fight... I did not say Bloomberg said it, I believe it was a journalist pundit who theorized as to Bloomberg's actions. If he comes out of the convention the winner after bullshit and acrimony people will say he bought the nomination, perception is everything in this business.
Unfortunately I agree with you on that. It doesn't mean it is the truth, but I know from my time waiting tables something my manager used to say all the time that stuck with me, 'perception is reality'.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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'I heard' is a great way to say something without backing it up.


Show me one place he said this.

Because I can show you this:
Bloomberg quietly plotting brokered convention strategy
The effort is designed as a potential backstop to block Bernie Sanders by poaching supporters from Joe Biden and other moderates.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Bloomberg campaign looking beyond Super Tuesday: ‘The eyes are on the convention’

The 2020 Democratic race is entering full Bloom.

Former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg is looking well beyond Super Tuesday March 3, and is already planning to staff up and roll out endorsements in Kentucky in time for the May 19 primary there, a campaign insider told The Post. The Democratic National Convention in Milwaukee kicks off less than eight weeks later.

The campaign held a 30-minute field team conference call last week; the only item on the agenda was the massive organization plan for the Bluegrass State.

“Identifying people who could be ambassadors to the campaign, elected officials who could endorse the campaign, local influencers who could guide the campaign,” the source said. “It’s the kind of effort people put into big primary states … It was as if he was running for governor of Kentucky. He is looking at every state independently.”

“There’s never any talk of money,” the insider laughed, alluding to Bloomberg’s $60 billion fortune. “The eyes are on the convention.”

Bloomberg’s strategy is to skip the four early-voting states and he has remained largely above the fray as the party continues to fail to coalesce behind any of the current candidates. Votes in Iowa and New Hampshire brought some clarity, but also laid bare deep divisions between the party’s moderates and far-left insurgents.

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Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as his running mate
Bloomberg — a former Republican and the world’s 12th richest person — has vowed to shell out whatever it takes to win the Democratic nomination, funding his campaign entirely with his own Midas-like wealth.

So far he has spent at least $350 million for web and internet ads alone. Millions more are being paid to his 1,000-strong army of campaign staffers, all of whom are earning far more than their counterparts in cash-strapped rival campaigns.

The spending spree has led to a steady rise in the polls. A new Quinnipiac University survey found Bloomberg at 15% nationally, narrowly trailing a diminished Joe Biden with 17%. Sanders remained out in front with 25% support. Some state polls look even rosier. The billionaire was the top choice of voters in both Florida and Arkansas, according to two recent polls.

Once dismissed as a curiosity candidate, Bloomberg is now treated with deadly seriousness by rivals. Seemingly every day the campaign is tested by embarrassing social media opposition dumps — like his robust defense of stop and frisk during a 2015 speech to the Aspen Institute.

“The campaign feels pretty good. Forget the Aspen comments, we got [Georgia] Congresswoman [Lucy] McBath. She is a woman of color. Her son was killed in a shooting. She is aware of Mike’s signature issues,” a second Bloomberg insider told The Post. The McBath endorsement came the same day Bloomberg picked up an endorsement from Queens Rep. Gregory Meeks, continuing an aggressive effort to woo black voters.

“I think Bernie underperformed [in New Hampshire]. I was expecting a 10-point win,” the insider added of Sanders’ 1.5-point margin of victory. “He will run into trouble in some of these larger states against a guy with a lot of money and a more normal Democratic message.”
 

hanimmal

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Im sure you could re-write each of those articles and just put in the different names of all the candidates (minus Bernie). They all want to win, and are all splitting their voting base.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Im sure you could re-write each of those articles and just put in the different names of all the candidates (minus Bernie). They all want to win, and are all splitting their voting base.
In my opinion Bloomberg is unelectable especially after a brokered convention, I don't think it will come down to that though, but Bloomberg is probably about to spend a billion running Bernie into the ground with TV ads. We will know a lot more after super tuesday and if Bernie has enough of a delegate lead to fight off Bloomberg's bucks. Bloomberg will probably spend more against Bernie than Trump if he's running away with it, Bloomberg represents Wall St too.
 

hanimmal

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In my opinion Bloomberg is unelectable especially after a brokered convention, I don't think it will come down to that though, but Bloomberg is probably about to spend a billion running Bernie into the ground with TV ads. We will know a lot more after super tuesday and if Bernie has enough of a delegate lead to fight off Bloomberg's bucks. Bloomberg will probably spend more against Bernie than Trump if he's running away with it, Bloomberg represents Wall St too.
I have no idea how any of this turns out, I just hope that whoever it is, there will be enough funding to drown out/keep pace with Trump's unlimited funds (tax payers added into that too apparently), being able to dominate the news being President, and foreign militaries attacking our citizens online.

I understand economics too much to be scared by the boogeyman 'Wall Street'. Bloomberg is a legit candidate for President, he is a Republican, but unfortunately the Republicans have been co-opted into Trump's cult so everyone has to run as a Democrat. It really is Trump or a all inclusive America at this point.
 

Fogdog

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one more
Bloomberg campaign looking beyond Super Tuesday: ‘The eyes are on the convention’

The 2020 Democratic race is entering full Bloom.

Former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg is looking well beyond Super Tuesday March 3, and is already planning to staff up and roll out endorsements in Kentucky in time for the May 19 primary there, a campaign insider told The Post. The Democratic National Convention in Milwaukee kicks off less than eight weeks later.

The campaign held a 30-minute field team conference call last week; the only item on the agenda was the massive organization plan for the Bluegrass State.

“Identifying people who could be ambassadors to the campaign, elected officials who could endorse the campaign, local influencers who could guide the campaign,” the source said. “It’s the kind of effort people put into big primary states … It was as if he was running for governor of Kentucky. He is looking at every state independently.”

“There’s never any talk of money,” the insider laughed, alluding to Bloomberg’s $60 billion fortune. “The eyes are on the convention.”

Bloomberg’s strategy is to skip the four early-voting states and he has remained largely above the fray as the party continues to fail to coalesce behind any of the current candidates. Votes in Iowa and New Hampshire brought some clarity, but also laid bare deep divisions between the party’s moderates and far-left insurgents.

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Bloomberg considering Hillary Clinton as his running mate
Bloomberg — a former Republican and the world’s 12th richest person — has vowed to shell out whatever it takes to win the Democratic nomination, funding his campaign entirely with his own Midas-like wealth.

So far he has spent at least $350 million for web and internet ads alone. Millions more are being paid to his 1,000-strong army of campaign staffers, all of whom are earning far more than their counterparts in cash-strapped rival campaigns.

The spending spree has led to a steady rise in the polls. A new Quinnipiac University survey found Bloomberg at 15% nationally, narrowly trailing a diminished Joe Biden with 17%. Sanders remained out in front with 25% support. Some state polls look even rosier. The billionaire was the top choice of voters in both Florida and Arkansas, according to two recent polls.

Once dismissed as a curiosity candidate, Bloomberg is now treated with deadly seriousness by rivals. Seemingly every day the campaign is tested by embarrassing social media opposition dumps — like his robust defense of stop and frisk during a 2015 speech to the Aspen Institute.

“The campaign feels pretty good. Forget the Aspen comments, we got [Georgia] Congresswoman [Lucy] McBath. She is a woman of color. Her son was killed in a shooting. She is aware of Mike’s signature issues,” a second Bloomberg insider told The Post. The McBath endorsement came the same day Bloomberg picked up an endorsement from Queens Rep. Gregory Meeks, continuing an aggressive effort to woo black voters.

“I think Bernie underperformed [in New Hampshire]. I was expecting a 10-point win,” the insider added of Sanders’ 1.5-point margin of victory. “He will run into trouble in some of these larger states against a guy with a lot of money and a more normal Democratic message.”
Translation: "I do not understand how the US Democratic Party selects its candidates."
 
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