Pull offensive threads (Poll) - (Look) RIU Management

[Ohsogreen]

OK.... I am staring this Poll, to let everyone chime in on some recent developments. After all - it is election season - so let's Vote
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More and more, I am seeing threads being started on RIU that just attack a person, group of people or a subject (someone else has taken their time to post).
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I'm all for free speech, but these types of threads - serve no purpose.
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I joined RIU to be a part of a community I care about. I wanted to learn new things, share my experiences and be a part of discussions that promoted - open minded thinking, sharing of ideals, successes & failures.
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Let's make RIU Management aware of (attack threads) and prompt them to kill offense threads. After all, there is nothing to be learned, of any value, from such threads.
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Now, before someone yells CENSORSHIP..... Is it really ? or just a requirement within our community to treat others with Respect. A decission we make as a whole.
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Vote for Respect...... Thank You.....

To expand on the options :

The first means - Let Moderator's make the choice to Kill an Offensive Attack Thread - regardless of wheter a complaint has been made about it.
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The second means - Let Moderator's Kill an Offensive Attack Thread - only, after receiving several complaints about it.
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The third - is a vote for total free speech, which includes offensive, degrading language (let RIU degrade into smut-ville)
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Please Review, then Vote

 

[Conoclast]

Imo they should be deleted after several complaints killing them on site would be to restrictive and leaving everything there even after several complaints would be degrading the site as you said.

 

[GrowSpecialist]

Please post an example or two.

 

[GrowTech]

The moderators do this.

 

[Stoney McFried]

They already do this...any time a thread attacks another member, it is closed.What threads are you referring to?

 

[misshestermoffitt]

I think they should kill them off. Some people think an intelligent debate is name calling. I guess they should have stayed in school and learned a few things.

 

[GrowTech]

Have you read the rules thread?

 

[misshestermoffitt]

I have read the rules. I'm not a name caller, but it pisses me off when a womans opinion is devalued because the males that disagree with her decide that she is, fat, ugly, jealous, a lesbian, etc.

 

[GrowTech]

Killing off a thread because of some of the content is a bad choice. Deleting individual posts (though time consuming) is the best method. Lets say you create a thread, and 6 or 7 people contribute good content to it, but 1 or 2 people start talking shit... If you delete the thread, nobody will ever see the positive posts behind those 6 or 7 people, because of 1 or 2 people.

If you delete individual posts, you can keep the good content, and delete the bad.

For the most part, this is exercised though.

 

[GrowTech]

I have read the rules. I'm not a name caller, but it pisses me off when a womans opinion is devalued because the males that disagree with her decide that she is, fat, ugly, jealous, a lesbian, etc.

The question wasn't directed to you, but to the originator of this thread.

 

[Where in the hell am I?]

I know that I am just a newbie here, but I have been an active and avid member on many sites that have forums set upp like the one here. This is one of the few sites where a person is NOT allowed to do exactly what you have suggested. A person should be able to at least delete a post in a thread that person started, if they find a post to be offensive. It isn't not letting people say what they want, but being able to not have to be exposed to something one takes offense to on THEIR OWN THREAD. Other than that, this site ROCKS!!!

Killing off a thread because of some of the content is a bad choice. Deleting individual posts (though time consuming) is the best method. Lets say you create a thread, and 6 or 7 people contribute good content to it, but 1 or 2 people start talking shit... If you delete the thread, nobody will ever see the positive posts behind those 6 or 7 people, because of 1 or 2 people.

If you delete individual posts, you can keep the good content, and delete the bad.

For the most part, this is exercised though.

 

[earlymorninstonepeomp]

just like television. if you don't like it change the channel, ignore user, etc. no matter how you paint it it's still censorship.

 

[GrowTech]

I don't think allowing the thread creator to delete posts would be a good choice... A person could create threads for product opinions or testimonials and just delete anything he wanted to create a biased pitch.

 

[GrowSpecialist]

just like television. if you don't like it change the channel, ignore user, etc. no matter how you paint it it's still censorship.

I believe that a certain amount of censorship is necessary. People shouldn't be allowed to come here and attack other members. This isn't a flame forum. A lot of members will leave this site and go to another grow forum if they are verbally raped while they're trying to chill out and discuss Marijuana growing.

 

[Ohsogreen]

They already do this...any time a thread attacks another member, it is closed.What threads are you referring to?

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Stoney McFried..... How to be a seed pimp (on Subcool's Forum) is a clear cut example of what I'm talking about. It offers nothing, but harsh words.
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Keep it Real... & Polite.... cause mean People Suck.....

 

[misshestermoffitt]

I love this answer, I used to think the same way, then I had kids and things were seen in a different light. Changing the channel isn't always that easy, yes you can but the kids can easily change it back.

It's the same thing around here, there is a thread where some of us were having an intelligent discussion when some obvious child started going on about all women being sluts, hoes bitches that are only good to suck his dick. We were all offeneded, we were trying to have a discussion but this guy wouldn't quit. Then he actually got mad and came back saying even more stupid stuff because he got infractions and negative reps for what he said.

It's the same with the porn pics men seem to love. This site is about growing weed, we all have a right to come here and read the forums without being subjected to porn.

just like television. if you don't like it change the channel, ignore user, etc. no matter how you paint it it's still censorship.

 

[Stoney McFried]

Ok, I'll look at that...I personally believe this is an adult site, so words don't need to be censored.Personal attacks aren't good,but I think many fights resolve themselves.

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Stoney McFried..... How to be a seed pimp (on Subcool's Forum) is a clear cut example of what I'm talking about. It offers nothing, but harsh words.
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Keep it Real... & Polite.... cause mean People Suck.....

 

[GrowTech]

It's the same with the porn pics men seem to love. This site is about growing weed, we all have a right to come here and read the forums without being subjected to porn.

SOME men seem to love it... I personally think porn avatars and such hurts this community, it prevents a lot of females from being comfortable enough to join. This is a GROWING forum, not a porn forum... There ARE forums out there where porn is acceptable...

and that's the opinion of a person who does make money operating adult websites in addition to a wealth of other ventures.

 

[GrowTech]

BTW Ohsogreen, not to come off like a dick or anything, but I don't think PMing people on the forums is the appropriate route to take in advertising this thread... If it's an issue, it will be bumped until there is some notice by the forum moderators and/or admin.

Just my two cents.

 

[thelastpirate]

The 1st amendment gives us the right to free speech. However, that right is NOT absolute. My right to free speech extends only so far as it does not infringe upon the rights of others.
One cannot yell "FIRE" in a theater, and claim free speech. Try calling a Judge a dickhead and claim free speech. People also have the right NOT to have their character assassinated, or be subjected to abusive diatribe, or verbal abuse in general. And there are standards of behavior and speech that have been tacitly set by society that dictate what is acceptable speech in public and what is not.
And lest we forget, an internet forum IS NOT A DEMOCRACY!!! The site rules are there for all to read prior to joining and posting. I assume every one read and agreed to those rules when they joined. At least we said we did.
Free speech allows us to express an unpopular view without fear of retribution. It does not give one freedom to attack others verbally, nor does it give us the right to express views that are intended to be libelous, inflammatory, or otherwise defame another person.

There is a huge difference between disagreeing with someone, and calling that someone names or attacking their character. If we disagree with someone, we can counter with our own opinions of what was said, and do so in a manner more in keeping with civility. While bare titties may be acceptable to most of us, there are those who are offended by that kind of display, and are entitled not to be subjected to that. We are entitled to post anything we want, as long as it's in keeping with the rights of others in mind, and conforms to whats generally acceptable in a public venue

For a Mod, or other "In charge" types, to remove an inflammatory, vicious, or otherwise socially unacceptable post, especially after complaints, cannot be considered censorship. They will throw your ass out of any public place for using profanity. Is that censorship? If you assassinate someones character in print or public speech, you can be hit with slander an/or libel.

The powers that be on this site have EVERY RIGHT to censor (if thats what you want to call it) anything that would not be in keeping with general civility, or is a violation of the rules WE ALL CLAIM TO HAVE READ. Remember, a forum is a private entity, and is NOT a democracy. You don't like the rules? You don't have to participate

In short, a mod has the right, and responsibility to pull inflammatory or otherwise offensive posts, especially if there are complaints.


Can't we all just get along? There are ways of calling someone an asshole and have them smile at you when you do. It's called tact and diplomacy. Anyone with a bit of common sense and a good command of the language is capable of that. For those who do nat have that good a command of the language, I bet you wish you'd paid more attention in school!!!