Trump dismisses threat from Coronavirus

Fogdog

Fogdog

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Wattzzup said:
I started by stating facts. No one under 80 in the us has died from the corona virus. No one under 60 on the entire planet. I don’t have stats from Mars you want me to look there?

I’m on a cannabis website so still don’t think I believe in medicine? Wow this guy
Keep waiting on that vaccine tell that to all the people that died waiting for a cure for cancer.
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Baloney detection kit, fallacy of logic number 7, observational selection, also called the enumeration of favorable circumstances, or as the philosopher Francis Bacon described it, counting the hits and forgetting the misses

First, its not even true that no one under 60 has died from this disease; second, the rest of the world is just beginning the cycle and there are too few cases to say anything definitively about who or how many will die of this disease. China has the most experience and largest number of cases. They are saw deaths in all age groups, from youth to elder.

"the fatality rate was 14.8% in people 80 or older, likely reflecting the presence of other diseases, a weaker immune system, or simply worse overall health. By contrast, the fatality rate was 1.3% in 50-somethings, 0.4% in 40-somethings, and 0.2% in people 10 to 39. "

The above numbers show this disease is viciously lethal to our most elder. It's a fucking bloodbath if it gets into elder care facilities. So I don't know why you want to make light of that.

www.statnews.com

Who is getting sick, and how sick? A breakdown of coronavirus risk by demographic factors

The new coronavirus is not an equal-opportunity killer. Here's what research has shown about who might be most at risk.
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Fogdog

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PJ Diaz said:
Trump probably knows something that we don't. His uncle was a super genius after all. </sarcasm>

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Video: Trump brags about 'super genius uncle' who was an MIT professor | Daily Mail Online

Trump was in Atlanta to visit headquarters of the Centers for Disease Control. President was asked about efforts to curb spread of coronavirus.
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LOL

"Maybe I should have been a doctor", "natural ability for science"

That is damn fine material for comedy right there for sure.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Fogdog said:
Baloney detection kit, fallacy of logic number 7, observational selection, also called the enumeration of favorable circumstances, or as the philosopher Francis Bacon described it, counting the hits and forgetting the misses

First, its not even true that no one under 60 has died from this disease; second, the rest of the world is just beginning the cycle and there are too few cases to say anything definitively about who or how many will die of this disease. China has the most experience and largest number of cases. They are saw deaths in all age groups, from youth to elder.

"the fatality rate was 14.8% in people 80 or older, likely reflecting the presence of other diseases, a weaker immune system, or simply worse overall health. By contrast, the fatality rate was 1.3% in 50-somethings, 0.4% in 40-somethings, and 0.2% in people 10 to 39. "

The above numbers show this disease is viciously lethal to our most elder. It's a fucking bloodbath if it gets into elder care facilities. So I don't know why you want to make light of that.

www.statnews.com

Who is getting sick, and how sick? A breakdown of coronavirus risk by demographic factors

The new coronavirus is not an equal-opportunity killer. Here's what research has shown about who might be most at risk.
www.statnews.com www.statnews.com
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I think I'll wait for more data and expert consensus before buying into this fatality rate, there are two strains on the go a milder form and a more virulent L strain and this needs to be sorted out of the data, the L strain came later and is more contagious too. Also there is the possibility of further mutations increasing virulence and or contagion. There is evidence in south korea that the mortality rate appears to be .6% with 140K tested, so there seems to be conflicting data sets, I'll let the Gods sort it out.. It's still to early IMHO to say what the mortality rate will be, but what's known is disturbing for those who have older loved ones, the numbers above put me at roughly a 2% risk of croaking, but I don't have any health problems except a bit too much weight. I'm gonna take zinc supplements and I take around 2000 IUs of vitamin D, there is good evidence for vitamin D and zinc could be of benefit and no harm, see my medical video posts (they are very good) on Abandons coronavirus thread for references. This might help someone you know. Good luck in ground zero, we're with you, or will soon be in the same boat, empathy comes easily in such circumstances, we're all fucked together this time!

I see yer putting the BS detection kit to good use, it deals with a lot of their blather efficiently.
 
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Fogdog

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I think I'll wait for more data and expert consensus before buying into this fatality rate, there are two strains on the go a milder form and a more virulent L strain and this needs to be sorted out of the data, the L strain came later and is more contagious too. Also there is the possibility of further mutations increasing virulence and or contagion. There is evidence in south korea that the mortality rate appears to be .6% with 140K tested, so there seems to be conflicting data sets, I'll let the Gods sort it out.. It's still to early IMHO to say what the mortality rate will be, but what's known is disturbing for those who have older loved ones, the numbers above put me at roughly a 2% risk of croaking, but I don't have any health problems except a bit too much weight. I'm gonna take zinc supplements and I take around 2000 IUs of vitamin D, there is good evidence for vitamin D and zinc could be of benefit and no harm, see my medical video posts (they are very good) on Abandons coronavirus thread for references. This might help someone you know. Good luck in ground zero, we're with you, or will soon be in the same boat, empathy comes easily in such circumstances, we're all fucked together this time!

I see yer putting the BS detection kit to good use, it deals with a lot of their blather efficiently.
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The absolute numbers aren't important right now. The conclusions on who is most at risk is the most valuable in terms of preparation and concern. Mortality rate could vary by country according to quality of care and the benefits of modern equipment in good hospitals. Also, baseline health of the older population groups are definitely a factor. I read that bit about the strains and it sounds like a bid for grant money but yeah, maybe it's a factor too. In other words, what happens in China and South Korea can be a guide but not a predictor of what happens in US and Canada.

I'm glad if other people take supplements. I don't. Let's not go there.

It's only 2% mortality rate if the same factors are present in the accounting and you come down with it. The "and" in that statement is important.
 
hanimmal

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Marthajeep010 said:
That’s hilarious! So Biden understands the danger of having his kid kicked out of the military? Does he know the dangers of crack? Does he know the dangers of his kid sitting on the board of a Ukrainian gas company with no experience other than sharing his father’s name (not my words, Hunter’s) while Joe was the point person on Ukraine?
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His kid with a Harvard Law degree had the audacity to get a job that when Joe left office he could earn in about 3 speeches what his kid earned in a year! String him up!

That is just not going to hold up, who would wait their entire career that they never cashed in on the power of their office in about 40 years to all of a sudden cash in such a small way at the very end of their 8 years as VP of the United States? Doesn't make sense if you take a couple minutes to actually look at it instead of having to flack for dear leader.

Also I meant Biden's other kid Beau (Bronze Star, got cancer and passed away).
 
zeddd

zeddd

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Fogdog said:
LOL

"Maybe I should have been a doctor", "natural ability for science"

That is damn fine material for comedy right there for sure.
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If that was written as a spoof it would be too ridiculous to be considered, almost.
 
zeddd

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I think I'll wait for more data and expert consensus before buying into this fatality rate, there are two strains on the go a milder form and a more virulent L strain and this needs to be sorted out of the data, the L strain came later and is more contagious too. Also there is the possibility of further mutations increasing virulence and or contagion. There is evidence in south korea that the mortality rate appears to be .6% with 140K tested, so there seems to be conflicting data sets, I'll let the Gods sort it out.. It's still to early IMHO to say what the mortality rate will be, but what's known is disturbing for those who have older loved ones, the numbers above put me at roughly a 2% risk of croaking, but I don't have any health problems except a bit too much weight. I'm gonna take zinc supplements and I take around 2000 IUs of vitamin D, there is good evidence for vitamin D and zinc could be of benefit and no harm, see my medical video posts (they are very good) on Abandons coronavirus thread for references. This might help someone you know. Good luck in ground zero, we're with you, or will soon be in the same boat, empathy comes easily in such circumstances, we're all fucked together this time!

I see yer putting the BS detection kit to good use, it deals with a lot of their blather efficiently.
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You can’t quote mortality stats from open cases. Mortality stats have to come from closed cases, recovered or dead.
 
Budley Doright

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I think I'll wait for more data and expert consensus before buying into this fatality rate, there are two strains on the go a milder form and a more virulent L strain and this needs to be sorted out of the data, the L strain came later and is more contagious too. Also there is the possibility of further mutations increasing virulence and or contagion. There is evidence in south korea that the mortality rate appears to be .6% with 140K tested, so there seems to be conflicting data sets, I'll let the Gods sort it out.. It's still to early IMHO to say what the mortality rate will be, but what's known is disturbing for those who have older loved ones, the numbers above put me at roughly a 2% risk of croaking, but I don't have any health problems except a bit too much weight. I'm gonna take zinc supplements and I take around 2000 IUs of vitamin D, there is good evidence for vitamin D and zinc could be of benefit and no harm, see my medical video posts (they are very good) on Abandons coronavirus thread for references. This might help someone you know. Good luck in ground zero, we're with you, or will soon be in the same boat, empathy comes easily in such circumstances, we're all fucked together this time!

I see yer putting the BS detection kit to good use, it deals with a lot of their blather efficiently.
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Is there indisputable proof of two strains? I’m reading there is lots of skeptics regarding this study? Have you read anything different?
 
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