You don't have to pay income taxes ( NO LAW )

ViRedd

ViRedd

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Dude.

Irwin Schiff was the best ... I mean the very best! Irwin Schiff is in federal prison.

Vi

PS: Google Irwin Schiff.
 
TheBrutalTruth

TheBrutalTruth

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jfgordon1 said:
Well... no one wanted to watch my last vid lol... so heres one i think u'll all enjoy.... how to save some $$$$ in the U.S that is !
There is no law that says you have to pay income taxes... irs just scares people into doing it.
question everything ... you'll learn alot

3 min long....

YouTube - There is NO LAW -- US Lawyer Not Guilty of Tax Evasion



(Long one- YouTube - Federal Income Tax - Why you should not pay
10 min long )
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Even if you are correct, you are missing one little fact.

THE IRS HAS GUNS, and GUNS = FORCE = POWER = ability to make people do what they don't want.

What we need is to get the Congress to abolish the IRS and the Income Tax, and propose an amendment that will repeal the 16th Amendment so the spectral horror of an income tax can not be raised in this country.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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The IRS has something much more powerful than guns. They have the banking system.
In fear of the IRS themselves, they will roll you over faster than gymnast at a porn convention.
The only way to not pay income tax is to live a completely cash "pay as you go" lifestyle. Quite difficult. The more money is tracked and digitized (ATM machines, & the money itself), the more difficult it will be to stay with cash. This is intentional.
So technically you are correct, but the odds are stacked against you. All I can say is IF they ever come after you, use ALL your focus to stay out of TAX court. If they get you in there, you are cooked. It's rigged in the favor of the IRS.


Good Luck....



out.
 
joepro

joepro

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jfgordon1 said:
Well... no one wanted to watch my last vid lol... so heres one i think u'll all enjoy.... how to save some $$$$ in the U.S that is !
There is no law that says you have to pay income taxes... irs just scares people into doing it.
question everything ... you'll learn alot

3 min long....

YouTube - There is NO LAW -- US Lawyer Not Guilty of Tax Evasion



(Long one- YouTube - Federal Income Tax - Why you should not pay
10 min long )
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The internal revenue code is law. It was passed by Congress. It does not come from the IRS. The IRS writes regulations that help implement the Code, but the code itself was passed by congress. Under the constitution, if a bill is passed by both houses of congress and signed by the President, it is the law. That's what happened with the internal revenue code, so the code is the law.
Title 26 of the united states code.
 
Sunnysideup

Sunnysideup

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According to Grow Tech, he has said you don't have to pay taxes at all!!! When I asked how the only response I got was 'read about it' So who knows....in the meantime I pay my taxes....something about jail just doesn't seem that appealing to me.
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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Taxes were invented to further shaft the working poor. Only the wealthy can afford to hide their money in tax shleters. The rest of us are just screwed by the IRS.
 
TheBrutalTruth

TheBrutalTruth

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GrowSpecialist said:
I've heard this somewhere before... but I'm not willing to find out the hard way whether its true or not. Are you?
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The only way to escape taxation would be to consistently handle the litigation (every year) that would be thrown against you by the IRS. Which would mean that you would have to be willing to bet that you could get a jury of your peers that would agree that you do not have to pay income taxes, either because they do not believe in the law, and aren't going to find you guilty, or because they do not believe that the IRS has a proper case to force you to pay taxes.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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TheBrutalTruth said:
The only way to escape taxation would be to consistently handle the litigation (every year) that would be thrown against you by the IRS. Which would mean that you would have to be willing to bet that you could get a jury of your peers that would agree that you do not have to pay income taxes, either because they do not believe in the law, and aren't going to find you guilty, or because they do not believe that the IRS has a proper case to force you to pay taxes.
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And that's the answer right there in a nutshell.

Congress isn't about to abolish the income tax and the IRS. It is from these tax laws that Congress maintains it's power.

Congress is continually tweaking the tax code to favor one interest over another in order to get campaign donations. The tax code is the life blood of reelection.

So, the only way to turn this on it's ear is through jury nullification. Vote NOT GUILTY in every tax and non-violent drug case when serving on a jury.

Oh and by the way, never turn down a chance to serve on jury duty ... next to voting, it's your most important civic duty.

Vi
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Only if you can stay out of Tax court. Look, unless you like to have total stress in ur life AND you have gobs of money that you are willing to throw away on your principles, it's not worth it.
Flailing at windmills always makes for a good story however. Always.



out.
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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Sometimes jury duty is a waste of tax dollars. last case I was on dragged out for 2 days, it was a total crock of shit and it took all 12 members of the jury less than 5 minutes to decide "not guilty". We rang the bell for the bailiff so fast, the bailiff thought something was wrong with someone.

The verdict was read and everyone exited the courthouse before the defendants family could finish their smoke break. Shitty thing was, this poor guy had sat in jail for 3 months because he couldn't afford bail, for something he was "not guilty" on.
 
mister420green

mister420green

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I say pay the taxes that you want to pay. We have to pay them, they're just too big and powerful to go up against. However, if you own the business that pays you.... hmmmm
 
hornedfrog2000

hornedfrog2000

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Not this BS again. They tried saying this on I think it was called zeitgeist the movie or something like that. Try not paying your taxes. True or not, you have to. It's like saying George Bush should be tried for war crimes. This may be true, but it's not happening for whatever reason.
 
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stickyicky77

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jfgordon1 said:
Well... no one wanted to watch my last vid lol... so heres one i think u'll all enjoy.... how to save some $$$$ in the U.S that is !
There is no law that says you have to pay income taxes... irs just scares people into doing it.
question everything ... you'll learn alot

3 min long....

YouTube - There is NO LAW -- US Lawyer Not Guilty of Tax Evasion



(Long one- YouTube - Federal Income Tax - Why you should not pay
10 min long )
Click to expand...
Tell that shit to Wesly Snipes. He refused to pay several million dollars in income tax and they threw his ass in a federal pen. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/business/25snipes.html
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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I wonder how much of that amount was interest and penalties? I bet at least half.

Why are they allowed to charge us interest and penalties, but we can't charge them? Isn't a tax refund money coming back that they overcharged you? Shouldn't we get interest on that money? How about their penalty for overcharging? I think that is penalty worthy.
 
GrowTech

GrowTech

stays relevant.
Like I said, there are ways around paying... You just need to find them...

Plus the IRS doesn't normally come after you for a few year, while they let the debt and interest build.
 
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