struggling to breathe after smoking
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jondamon
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He’s already corrected himself he meant to write 2.0g.
TreeFarmerCharlie
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The problem with vaping e-liquids, and THC carts, is that there’s no way to know what additives they are using until something bad happens like the shit that happened last year with the carts in the US that put people in the hospital and killed others.
When I vaped nicotine I used to make my own e-juice and my own coils, too. Most people don’t know how to do that, though, and some that do are still dumb enough to mix it up in unsanitary conditions.
Then THC carts came out and I was excited, because they were just plant extracts...until companies started adding other shit to them to stretch it out, or to make the concentrate flow the way they wanted it to.
I used to feel the same way you do, about carts being generally safe, but they really only are if you make them yourself and know how to do it cleanly. I personally only feel comfortable recommending dry herb vaping now.
jondamon
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True I agree.
I’ve found something that works for me.
my question though more than anything was what’s wrong with VG and PG as he states he doesn’t want to vape those base liquids.
I understand the worry about the Vitamin E acetate. Fully understandable and deaths on record to prove it.
the media didn’t help matters blaming vaping for it when it actual fact it was black market THC carts from some dumb shit brothers etc knocking off legit carts to make a quick buck.
but when you do it yourself imo it’s a win win.
TreeFarmerCharlie
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I haven’t been able to find any issues with vaping VG or PG and I think a lot of people are just misinformed and think that’s true. When people believe that I always point out that fog machines are considered perfectly safe to be used in crowds of people and they are just vaporizing and blowing out huge amounts of PG. I do, however, believe that it’s only safe to vape it in moderation...like anything else. If we find out in the future that it has negative heath effects, then I’d be willing to bet it will be the “cloud chasers” who see those negative effects.
jondamon
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It’s the lesser of 2 evils that I chose.
I don’t believe for one second that it’s without risk.
but I do believe it’s the lesser of the 2.
Gond00s
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This is true words
outsiders
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well i use to vape as in flavored tobacco type stuff. even started mixing my own at one point but it started getting way too expensive to order base vg/pg plus the rest. id rather run just from a heating element with out needing to make oil and mix up the corrrect consitency to vape though a pen . i am considering buying something to make rosin and just do dabs but thats looking like $900 up for a decent press
outsiders
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don't sweat it i do not disagree. and i came on here because of other people knowledge EG to find a better options then just smoking bongs to get my cannabis hits
Renfro
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Best way to go is edibles probably. But dabs is the way I go, vaping oil. One hit is like smoking half a joint but without all the extra crap from burning twig. Vaping twig always left me hanging, like where is the "stone" but dabs, well that just fucks me right up lol.
Budzbuddha
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Pssssh ... lightweight.
Renfro
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Renfro
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I may not be the heaviest toker but I can't get there smoking weed anymore. I have to smoke and smoke on 31% stuff and my lungs get tired. Dabs, well four or five nice rosin dabs and I am feeling alright... lol I go thru about .75 to 1 gram a day so I don't think that qualifies as a light weight, but yeah I know people that can do more, I could but I just don't need to.
A nice rosin press is a great investment. I picked mine up off craigslist and it's looked unused when I got it. It was a steal. Since I've had it I turn any small / larf bud into rosin and wow it's so full of terpenes. I just stash my pressings in the freezer to lock in those terps until I want to use it.
A nice rosin press is a great investment. I picked mine up off craigslist and it's looked unused when I got it. It was a steal. Since I've had it I turn any small / larf bud into rosin and wow it's so full of terpenes. I just stash my pressings in the freezer to lock in those terps until I want to use it.
Budzbuddha
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Everyone’s threshold / tolerance are different .... when I do a sesh ( volcano bags / rolled cones ) I do about 2 grams or so a night.
Dry vape gets me more chill than direct pulls on cones / rolled . Rolled gets me right in cranium ..... slow moving rooms , smirk on my face ... you know what the fuck I’m sayin.
Edibles I tend to overdo .... badly. I made some brownies without really measuring doses. Put infused butter , drops , melted KIVA mint chocolate bar .... Wanting make a nuclear brownie I guess . Bad decision.... I don’t get super high like I thought I would , I got super nauseous and shaky. No bueno ... wife yelled my ear off for “ wasting “ a pan of brownies that is too much to enjoy.
For respiratory issues .... look at lozenges, tincture drops ( easy to make ) , infused honey ( sticks ) , candy . Most DIY vids on these ...
I make simple glycerin Infused drops .... slight sweet taste ... sublingual absorption ... discreet and potent. Brown or dark blue rubber eye dropper bottle and you are stylin. I use a double water boil method to extract into VG , screen press and then bottle. Sometimes twice.
Dry vape gets me more chill than direct pulls on cones / rolled . Rolled gets me right in cranium ..... slow moving rooms , smirk on my face ... you know what the fuck I’m sayin.
Edibles I tend to overdo .... badly. I made some brownies without really measuring doses. Put infused butter , drops , melted KIVA mint chocolate bar .... Wanting make a nuclear brownie I guess . Bad decision.... I don’t get super high like I thought I would , I got super nauseous and shaky. No bueno ... wife yelled my ear off for “ wasting “ a pan of brownies that is too much to enjoy.
For respiratory issues .... look at lozenges, tincture drops ( easy to make ) , infused honey ( sticks ) , candy . Most DIY vids on these ...
I make simple glycerin Infused drops .... slight sweet taste ... sublingual absorption ... discreet and potent. Brown or dark blue rubber eye dropper bottle and you are stylin. I use a double water boil method to extract into VG , screen press and then bottle. Sometimes twice.
Renfro
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Edibles are indeed easy to overdo. I used to go in thinking I wanted them potent, didn't want weak sauce, then I would end up with cookies that you eat 1/4 of and you wake up the next day still roasted.
I learned a lot about making edibles. I now start with oil like rosin or BHO. I can then make a guess and say well thats 75% THC ish stuff with terps and such...
So if I want to make cookies and I need 2 sticks of butter I weigh out a certain amount of grams such that with my number of cookies they end up around 25mg. For me thats perfect. I like about 4 cookies and I have found that 100 mg gets me right where I like to be.
I decarb the oil in the butter in a tiny sauce pan using a candy thermometer to hold 250F for about 20 - 25 minutes. Then I cool the pan in a cold water bath to stop decarboxylation. Once the butter is cooled it can be used in the cookie recipe.
The nice thing about using the oil is you never get that "green" flavor. If your oil has lemon terps and you make brownies you get a hint of lemon in the chocolate.
You can use oil instead of butter and do the decarboxylation, if thats what the recipe calls for, I've done it. I find that butter really does, as claimed, help the THC get into your system faster.
Powertech
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Thats what i should have done. Brownies I made were around 100mg for a 1" square......who the hell eats a 1" square brownie? so of course half a tray later, i did not have a super high night, like @Budzbuddha I just got real shaky and didn't feel real good. Just the thought of brownies makes me feel sick now. It sucked because all I wanted to do was get high, and that is usually the go to when I don't feel good. Super bummer.
Oh side note for everybody as well. Nitrous at the dentist is pointless if you go in there stoned off your ass. I wasted $50 to find that one out, and they had it maxed out
Tiflis
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That's a decent vaporizer. Works like a horse and comes with bags you can fill like Volcano does, just doesn't have a valve system on it