riceweed147
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i wish i had room like you guys
i only have a 30"x24"x36" GroCab
But im going to have 150x hps and 6 CFL's in there
i only have a 30"x24"x36" GroCab
But im going to have 150x hps and 6 CFL's in there
4x4 grow room clean slate
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titanium3g
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Screw cfl. You can set up a 1000 watt hps or mh for under $200 with bulb. Do that, only way. Either way you will end up with HID lighting, might as well spend the few extra bucks now. You will remember this post later when you are shopping for HID lighting.kiss-ass
winkdogg420
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Awesome suggestions ! I have 4 econo lights on the way . Im going to stick with the cfls for this whole grow i will keep you guys up to date . Next grow i will bloom under the hps econos. Right now i have 8 cfls running 50/50 2700 6500k all 10 plants just broke soil so here we grow!
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winkdogg420
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ok i just got the camera all ready to go ,so i took some pics let me know what i need and how im doin so far!
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FLOWER PIMP
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with that size after about a month of filling it with cfl's you will think... man i wish i would have got that hps in the begining. you have the space, filling it with cfl's can be costly.
i believe in a differnt tool for every job. and i think your job would benifit massively with hps... jmo though
good luck
i believe in a differnt tool for every job. and i think your job would benifit massively with hps... jmo though
good luck
winkdogg420
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there are a lot more pics in my profile. well what do you guys tHINK??
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winkdogg420
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I am certainly aware that cfl are less effective than hid lighting i just want to see what kind of results i get . Thankyou much
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nice hood.
winkdogg420
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Thanks alot i made the reflector out of a 8"galv. Heating duct. And the vanity lights provide 8 sockets with the y's that is 16 bulbs. The vanity fixyures were 12 bucks on sale from 21$
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looks good. i too however will suggest the 1000w
i have a 4 x 4 x 7 tent and started with a 4' 4 tube T5 and it was so so.
my second grow i upgraded to 1000w hps / MH conversion
i veg with the metal halide conversion bulb and flower with the 1000watt HPS in a cooltube and my yield is triple what it was with the 4' 4tube t5
i have a 4 x 4 x 7 tent and started with a 4' 4 tube T5 and it was so so.
my second grow i upgraded to 1000w hps / MH conversion
i veg with the metal halide conversion bulb and flower with the 1000watt HPS in a cooltube and my yield is triple what it was with the 4' 4tube t5
tusseltussel
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95,000 lumens=600watt hps=4x4/95000=5937 lumens per sq ft, just enough light for som nice dank nuggets i always say 5-7000 lumens per sq ft the lighting section on roll it up says 3000 minimum...... just putin some info out their.
i love you fdd
i love you fdd
tusseltussel
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i pull about 8-10 oz out of a 3.5x3.5 room with a 400 watt hps every 3 months, im happy
Boneman
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Yuppers its all nice and dandy and filled with cfl's. If you continue on, you will definately be shopping the HID market for lighting. CFL's work as do cheap 48" flouro set-ups, but there is NO Comparison to MH & HPS my friend....other than the sun. Keep a logbook on how much you spend on CFL's and also what u spend on cooling your room and you'll see what everyone is telling you. Just go visit Dr Chronics CFL tutorial, 1st grow and PPP grow journals. He was "mr cfl", the self proclaimed Lt General for their group.....DEAD, I mean DEAD SET on CFL's. Sounded like you were listening to a Doctor speak....LOL Dr Chronic is his name! Look at what he is using now. There is a picture in his PPP grow journal that shows his one surviving CFL plant....it looks worse than a charlie brown xmas tree. **Disclaimer** Dr Chronic is a forum buddy and we enjoy each others posts and contribute to each others posts. I am not bashing him or you at all. I just feel compelled to get this off my chest.
Dont be stubborn, just go HID. If your so dead set on CFL's than supplement with them.
Bottom line is: They DO WORK!! and its up too you what you use, but the cost will equal and or exceed HID lighting and the results will SUCK compared to HID.
Good luck with your grow and learn as much as you can. So far everything is looking very nice. Clean and tidy and set up nicely. What kind of soil and nutes are you using?
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Dont be stubborn, just go HID. If your so dead set on CFL's than supplement with them.
Bottom line is: They DO WORK!! and its up too you what you use, but the cost will equal and or exceed HID lighting and the results will SUCK compared to HID.
Good luck with your grow and learn as much as you can. So far everything is looking very nice. Clean and tidy and set up nicely. What kind of soil and nutes are you using?
Broanotherchance
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put your 600 watt in a volksgarden and pull an easy 50 oz in 2 months and be very happy
winkdogg420
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ok I KNOW HID IS BETTER THAN CFL I GUESS YOU GUYS DONT GET THE POINT! I WANT TO GROW A BATCH OF CFL ONLY BUDS ,THATS IT I JUST RECIEVED MY ECONOLIGHTS AND I WILL BE USING THEM ON MY NEXT GROW.
I GUESS WHAT IM SAYING IS PLEASE LET ME DO MY THING, WITHOUT EVERYONE FIGHTING ME ON THE CFLS .
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGESTIONS THAT DO NOT INVOLVE HID LIGHTING FEEL FREE TO JUMP RIGHT IN! BUT JUST BE HAPPY THAT THEIR IS ONE MORE GROWER ON THE SITE AND KEEP YOUR "IM TELLIN YOU" TO YOURSELVES.
THIS WILL BE AN ALL CFL GROW. AND ONCE AGAIN I KNOW HID IS THE STRONGER WAY TO GROW NUGS BUT NO MATTER WHAT YOU GUYS SAY I AM STICKING WITH THE CFL ON THIS GROW ,THEN I WILL USE THE CFL,S FOR VEG AND THE ECONO HPS FOR BLOOM
DONT HATE THE GROW ROOM ,HATE THE BULBS HAHA
I GUESS WHAT IM SAYING IS PLEASE LET ME DO MY THING, WITHOUT EVERYONE FIGHTING ME ON THE CFLS .
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGESTIONS THAT DO NOT INVOLVE HID LIGHTING FEEL FREE TO JUMP RIGHT IN! BUT JUST BE HAPPY THAT THEIR IS ONE MORE GROWER ON THE SITE AND KEEP YOUR "IM TELLIN YOU" TO YOURSELVES.
THIS WILL BE AN ALL CFL GROW. AND ONCE AGAIN I KNOW HID IS THE STRONGER WAY TO GROW NUGS BUT NO MATTER WHAT YOU GUYS SAY I AM STICKING WITH THE CFL ON THIS GROW ,THEN I WILL USE THE CFL,S FOR VEG AND THE ECONO HPS FOR BLOOM
DONT HATE THE GROW ROOM ,HATE THE BULBS HAHA
Boneman
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And now you want to type in all caps for us answering the post? Have fun with your CFL's...they are expensive, hot, and to answer your question, you will need a SHITLOAD of them for your 4x4x8 grow space. You will also need numerous outlets and powerstrips which = fire hazard or paranoya about fire.
I would also suggest using T-5 clusters along the sides or if thats too much money, try the regular 48" garage/shop light set up. You can get the 2 bulb fixture for less than 10 bucks a piece at lowes.
Wish you luck with your grow winkdogg....seriously. Its all about learning and trying out new things. Have at it dude.
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FLOWER PIMP
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i have put some pics of my grow in a mid veg period. the area was abut 4 x 4.
i would recommended thinking about how to move the lights up and down or all around. i had two boards going across the top which i would alternate the cords on 1 side or the other. not bad, but alot of time when it came time to adjust them due to plant growth.
the last pic shows my just 1 week after the hid. it really turned into a fine bush under the cfl's. (i had a 70 watt hps, but considered it mainly a heat source as it wasn't mounted efficiently.)
i only broke 2 cfl's. the whole time, i'm thinking i veg for about 10 weeks.
i hope that typing all this was somewht helpful!
i would recommended thinking about how to move the lights up and down or all around. i had two boards going across the top which i would alternate the cords on 1 side or the other. not bad, but alot of time when it came time to adjust them due to plant growth.
the last pic shows my just 1 week after the hid. it really turned into a fine bush under the cfl's. (i had a 70 watt hps, but considered it mainly a heat source as it wasn't mounted efficiently.)
i only broke 2 cfl's. the whole time, i'm thinking i veg for about 10 weeks.
i hope that typing all this was somewht helpful!
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winkdogg420
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thanks flowerpimp for the pics and info ! Your grow looks awesome and i hope you have fun doing it .i have my light setup on pulleys and ties off to a cleat so i can raise and lower the lights with ease. When the plants start to fill out i will increase the sidelight to help penetrate the canopy!i have put some pics of my grow in a mid veg period. The area was abut 4 x 4.
I would recommended thinking about how to move the lights up and down or all around. I had two boards going across the top which i would alternate the cords on 1 side or the other. Not bad, but alot of time when it came time to adjust them due to plant growth.
The last pic shows my just 1 week after the hid. It really turned into a fine bush under the cfl's. (i had a 70 watt hps, but considered it mainly a heat source as it wasn't mounted efficiently.)
i only broke 2 cfl's. The whole time, i'm thinking i veg for about 10 weeks.
I hope that typing all this was somewht helpful!
Sorry about all caps i dont really worry about grammer and things of that nature im just trying to share and have fun.
Thanks for your interest!
Winkdogg
winkdogg420
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thanks for checking out my grow but im sticking with the cfls for this grow . next round i will throw in the 5 hps 150's. any tips you might have besides lighting would be great!
WINKDOGG
Big P
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wow 5 150hps?
what made u settle on that?
more wires more plugs more hoods more to ventelate more to raise & more money
2 600's would have done you right
and about the CFLs i think everyone has a problem for you using them because u state no reason for why you want to use them this grow
i dont know why no one has asked yet. by why? why do you want to try this first run with cfl only?
so far the only reason u stated was "cuz"
what made u settle on that?
more wires more plugs more hoods more to ventelate more to raise & more money
2 600's would have done you right
and about the CFLs i think everyone has a problem for you using them because u state no reason for why you want to use them this grow
i dont know why no one has asked yet. by why? why do you want to try this first run with cfl only?
so far the only reason u stated was "cuz"