AK Bean Brains

psychadelibud

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I have some nice vigorous Durbalayan seedlings started and I'm looking for any new info anybody's got. I'd love to know more about how the '77 Himalayan/ '80 Skunk turns out by itself... what kind of phenos and their finishing times, type of buzz, etc. I like the idea of perhaps seed chucking with Durbalayan but it would be so much better if I knew what the Himalayan Skunk was bringing to the table on its own. Anybody? @psychadelibud ?
He has mentioned to me his Himalayan before, but did not really go into great detail about it. It was brought up when I was showing him my landrace Johaar beans. He did say it was a super old cut. If you have any specific things you would like to know about it, let me know and I'll check into it for ya brother.
 

J232

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Jbc, emerald rose, speak easy (not sure if they still do, but they did), golden ticket, the seed source, Labyrinth... and of course, you can reach him directly and order thru his gmail.
Thanks man, I added those to the list. I honestly try and leave the guys alone and hate to bother them directly for a couple packs, if these places won’t ship I will hit him up for sure. You know the worse part of this is looking for some akbb ss and coming home with everything but lmao.. ohh that sounds nice, oh that looks nice.
 

Nutbag Poster

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He has mentioned to me his Himalayan before, but did not really go into great detail about it. It was brought up when I was showing him my landrace Johaar beans. He did say it was a super old cut. If you have any specific things you would like to know about it, let me know and I'll check into it for ya brother.
Thanks for responding! I guess the male for Durbalayan is a Himalayan/Skunk hybrid and I guess I'm most interested in the end product smoke from that hybrid... flavor and type of high... and a rough finishing time (indoors and outdoors). Also, is that Himalayan/Skunk inbred or is that an F1? Don't go to too much trouble and it's not urgent, but if you're chatting with him and he's in the mood to elaborate, I'd love to hear.
 

Bakersfield

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Thanks man, I added those to the list. I honestly try and leave the guys alone and hate to bother them directly for a couple packs, if these places won’t ship I will hit him up for sure. You know the worse part of this is looking for some akbb ss and coming home with everything but lmao.. ohh that sounds nice, oh that looks nice.
It's not like you'll inconvenience Ak Beanbrains
Ak Beanbrains runs Dankortowne as his seedbank.

I do enjoy the service that a seedbank like JBC provides, but
I always hit up the breeder directly for seeds, when possible.
100% of the money goes into their pocket.
 

fieldhand

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It's not like you'll inconvenience Ak Beanbrains
Ak Beanbrains runs Dankortowne as his seedbank.

I do enjoy the service that a seedbank like JBC provides, but
I always hit up the breeder directly for seeds, when possible.
100% of the money goes into their pocket.
Agree you give the breeder all the money instead of a middle man and you are 100% confident you got the legit seeds If direct is an option that’s my go to
 

J232

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Agree you give the breeder all the money instead of a middle man and you are 100% confident you got the legit seeds If direct is an option that’s my go to
Yeah I was just looking at it as a small fry perspective, but makes total sense. I guess with any breeder, if they didn’t want to deal with it, a ignored email is the worse it would get. I got ahold of green stash, seems cool. Told me his account was deleted here for advertising his gear haha, oops.
 

Kndreyn

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6/6 of the TKNL5Haze x Black Doms popped, 1 of the seedlings petered off and died but 5 are still going strong! Waiting until they all start to stiffen up and ill start taking some pics for everyone!
I was just going to ask if anyone was running the black dom to tknl5haze crosses. I bought them based on his instagram post about it being too strong for one grower, then found out that was a different cross that he never released. That kinda put them on a back burner for me. I'm still kinda wondering how a novice grower would have acquired those if he never released them.
 

BDGrows

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I was just going to ask if anyone was running the black dom to tknl5haze crosses. I bought them based on his instagram post about it being too strong for one grower, then found out that was a different cross that he never released. That kinda put them on a back burner for me. I'm still kinda wondering how a novice grower would have acquired those if he never released them.
AKBB gives out a lot of freebies and testers to friends it seems. So I don't doubt someone got ahold of them and ran them for him.
 

psychadelibud

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I was just going to ask if anyone was running the black dom to tknl5haze crosses. I bought them based on his instagram post about it being too strong for one grower, then found out that was a different cross that he never released. That kinda put them on a back burner for me. I'm still kinda wondering how a novice grower would have acquired those if he never released them.
I am pretty sure I know how that went down... A friend (and tester) of AKBB in Australia gave the seeds to a friend of his who was a novice. I'm pretty sure he got a little beyond fucked up smoking it lol (obviously) so he gifted the flower back to the guy that gave him the beans. I would still grow out that tknl5haze x Domina... Both black dom cuts are strong as hell.
 

psychadelibud

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I'm gonna get some pics up tonight of my girls and what they're looking like so far. They are so vigorous! I'm serious about this coco shit... why the hell I was always so nervous with the switch to coco for so long I'll never know... I'm just old school, so its strictly been peat based mixes for me the past 18 years only. For real, I'm punching myself in the balls for that!

Not sure the exact number, but I think I have 40 beautiful girls in the room just DYING to start the flowering cycle. But that is too much. So, I am going to reduce those numbers to around 30/25 and put 10 or 15 in prepped outdoor holes tonight, soon as night falls... I'll be flipping to flower in a day or two... I had to top them all again to keep the height to a minimum, I have an extremely low head space in my flower room, but I'm used to working with that situation...

I kept some nice males too. They will be going across the other side of one of the mountains I grow on, to reduce the chances of pollination. It will be my male "patch", I'll have several males there. I have always got by with grows at that particular location, however, over the years it has started to get too thick for nice production. But it is, the perfect spot for male plants. I can't wait to do some breeding of my own and start working on my own lines. I'll eventually be releasing some beans come this fall, likely through instagram as well as some collaboration offers through AKBB...

The females I choose to go outdoors will be absolutely massive!!! They have been vegging since February! If done correctly, I can easily pull 2-3 lb plants guerilla style... I'm prepped for war this year for those mother fucking bud worms, I know that much! Those little bastards have been wiping everyone's crops to pure botrytis for the last few years now. Not this year though.... nope, not mine!:fire:
 

Kndreyn

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I'm gonna get some pics up tonight of my girls and what they're looking like so far. They are so vigorous! I'm serious about this coco shit... why the hell I was always so nervous with the switch to coco for so long I'll never know... I'm just old school, so its strictly been peat based mixes for me the past 18 years only. For real, I'm punching myself in the balls for that!

Not sure the exact number, but I think I have 40 beautiful girls in the room just DYING to start the flowering cycle. But that is too much. So, I am going to reduce those numbers to around 30/25 and put 10 or 15 in prepped outdoor holes tonight, soon as night falls... I'll be flipping to flower in a day or two... I had to top them all again to keep the height to a minimum, I have an extremely low head space in my flower room, but I'm used to working with that situation...

I kept some nice males too. They will be going across the other side of one of the mountains I grow on, to reduce the chances of pollination. It will be my male "patch", I'll have several males there. I have always got by with grows at that particular location, however, over the years it has started to get too thick for nice production. But it is, the perfect spot for male plants. I can't wait to do some breeding of my own and start working on my own lines. I'll eventually be releasing some beans come this fall, likely through instagram as well as some collaboration offers through AKBB...

The females I choose to go outdoors will be absolutely massive!!! They have been vegging since February! If done correctly, I can easily pull 2-3 lb plants guerilla style... I'm prepped for war this year for those mother fucking bud worms, I know that much! Those little bastards have been wiping everyone's crops to pure botrytis for the last few years now. Not this year though.... nope, not mine!:fire:

I'll have to look in to that coco coir business. I made a major move today. I started the Consumption and Darian Gap in a rainforest and they have been really taking off. But this morning I checked the roots and started seeing some brownish colors on them. I should have experimented with some beans I've made myself instead of the real deals. So I made a decision to switch these over to Promix. Transplanted all of them and hopefully it didn't shock them too much. I had to pull some roots off to get them out of the net pots, but I think I was careful enough that they'll be fine. I'll look in to the coco and see about giving that a try. But I'll try it on some self made beans to see how it goes, then maybe run the catpiss in it once I'm comfortable with it.
 

psychadelibud

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I'll have to look in to that coco coir business. I made a major move today. I started the Consumption and Darian Gap in a rainforest and they have been really taking off. But this morning I checked the roots and started seeing some brownish colors on them. I should have experimented with some beans I've made myself instead of the real deals. So I made a decision to switch these over to Promix. Transplanted all of them and hopefully it didn't shock them too much. I had to pull some roots off to get them out of the net pots, but I think I was careful enough that they'll be fine. I'll look in to the coco and see about giving that a try. But I'll try it on some self made beans to see how it goes, then maybe run the catpiss in it once I'm comfortable with it.
Never used the rainforest, but have used tons of FFOF and roots organic in the past, along with a few others with excellent results. It's just like anything else your new to, it will have to be "dialed in" so to speak. Some things are more complicating and complex than others, but yet will yield better results than the easiest way once they're officially dialed in. If that makes sense......:blsmoke:

I remember, the best results I ever really got was a mix of promix and either ocean forest or roots organic (or both) with added perlite. I used to always buy the promix BX but then fell in love with the consistency and exellent drainage of the promix HP (high porosity). I would do about 60%-65% promix to 35-40% roots or ffof but it just got too damn expensive... Coco is not cheap either, however it's worth every darn penny thus far and is easily reusable (as is peat also).

Now I'm not sure how complicating coco would be if you were measuring EC/PH/PPM etc, as I took the easy way to start ;) I am using (and probably will become a target for hate when I admit this haha) Advanced Nutrients PH perfect sensi coco line. I love it, it works and it works almost too well. I do check the PH often just to make sure I am one point there, but no longer because it's been accurate thru thousands of gallons of water already and I dont mind the price tag at all, either. It really does pay for itself in the end and so much more!

I see so much hatred with advanced and I (do and don't) see the reason for it. Yes, its flashy and they try and lure you in to buy so many additional products (which do work, but they're not needed). They put tons and tons of investment into real science and imo is in the top 3 cannabis specific nutrients on the market. But I can see how people may not agree with they're marketing techniques. However, I also know why people give up on them so quick... They're not like most other nutrient lines, where you can use 1/4 strength nute mixtures and get by with it, you can but you will have poor results (deficiencies, etc) for some reason in every advanced thread I've seen, I see people stressing to only use a quarter strength mixture up to half, which is automatically a setup for failure...They are designed to use full strength and it seems to hit the plants just right, it's never too much nor too little, all different strains respond to it perfectly where with other nutrient lines I've had to adjust per each plants needs... That's hard as fuck to do when you're working with a single reservoir, with multiple strains and high numbers to depend on.

I found this out the hard way back when I first started using advanced nutrients ph perfect line. I kept seeing threads on how to start with quarter strength, half strength but NEVER over a 3/4s or else you'll burn the shit out of your plants... That info was everywhere, so I took it seriously... [You do however only use quarter strength when they are in the first couple weeks of life, then 3/4 to full (which is best) once they are close to or reach, maturity].

Anyway... I kept noticing my plants were very pale with yellow tips and I was like wtf? They look deficient, yet they look burned (due to tips yellowing) at the same time... They looked like shit, even when I increased them to 1/2 strength. So then I started to believe the hate, wrote up advanced a sorta "nasty" email and basically told them my issue, with pics and was pissed at how much I invested and was everything short of telling them they can shove it up their ass! Lol.

They actually replied, told me to always use advanced at full strength once plants are mature and said the deficiencies I was seeing was due to starvation pretty much... Once I increased to full strength they made a 360° change literally over night! Started pulling the best damn grows I have ever had in my life once I followed those simple instructions and I have not turned back yet... I've tried here and there throughout the years, tons of different nutrients and keep going back to good ole advanced. You simply can't beat them... The ease of it is just simply insane.

I don't use all of their products and additives, although I have, I usually dont... I keep it simple. I use Advanced Sensi Grow ph perfect bases A & B for veg, (with coco I do supplement with calmag although I'm not even sure its needed), Blue Planets Gold Shield Silica as well as their Root Magic. Awesome results, roots so thick that you can barely push a tomato cage into the coco... For flower I use the AN ph perfect Sensi Bloom base a & b, AN nirvana, bud ignitor or bud blood, big bud and this time going to try the bud factor x and that's it... In mid flower I'll also mix in a bit of MOAB or something similar.

Damn... sorry to ramble lol, I'm bored and still awaiting the moment to start transporting these girls to the outdoors so I can flip to flower tomorrow night. Its pouring the rain here and I may just have to wind up working in the rain if it don't slack down soon!
 
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Bakersfield

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With coco it's important to wash the salt out and condition it prior to using with Cal/Mag.

I buy the bricks their fairly cheap and I reuse coco for about a year before throwing into the compost bin.
Throw in a little perlite and keep the ph between 5.5 - 6.0.
5.8 is ideal, but letting it drift is best.
I keep my Ec low at about 1.3 for most strains, but some sativas require 1.1

Set up with drain to waste multiple feedings per day
and you can never look back.
 

psychadelibud

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With coco it's important to wash the salt out and condition it prior to using with Cal/Mag.

I buy the bricks their fairly cheap and I reuse coco for about a year before throwing into the compost bin.
Throw in a little perlite and keep the ph between 5.5 - 6.0.
5.8 is ideal, but letting it drift is best.
I keep my Ec low at about 1.3 for most strains, but some sativas require 1.1

Set up with drain to waste multiple feedings per day
and you can never look back.
I used Canna coco bricks, I washed half and the other half did not get washed. I cannot tell any difference, they all took off like crazy! Most coco does need to be washed, but I'm a firm believer now it's not likely with canna unless your working with seedlings. I would still recommend ppl wash it, just in case. Batches can always vary. The AN sensi coco puts my ph exactly at 5.8 every single time, regardless whether it is rain water, tap water, or water from the dehumidifier... I love the stuff!

I chose not to use any perlite for my first round with coco and it's actually working out great. More root space really and I was honestly nervous about that move... Hope it continues to thrive!
 
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psychadelibud

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I'll have to look in to that coco coir business. I made a major move today. I started the Consumption and Darian Gap in a rainforest and they have been really taking off. But this morning I checked the roots and started seeing some brownish colors on them. I should have experimented with some beans I've made myself instead of the real deals. So I made a decision to switch these over to Promix. Transplanted all of them and hopefully it didn't shock them too much. I had to pull some roots off to get them out of the net pots, but I think I was careful enough that they'll be fine. I'll look in to the coco and see about giving that a try. But I'll try it on some self made beans to see how it goes, then maybe run the catpiss in it once I'm comfortable with it.
I'd say your plants will be okay even if you did bump them up a bit. I did too, during my transplants, it's hard to get over 70 plants all transplanted perfectly without making mistakes... Its hard to remember sometimes that cannabis truly is just a type of "weed" and it's pretty darn hardy at that. I ripped the hell out of some of my roots on a few plants that had a much less than optimal root structure, but that didn't stop them at all... Throw in something when you transplant that helps prevent transplant shock and stress... I am old school, so I use super thrive and a normal dose of nutrients during transplant. Along with some mycos and beneficials.

Have faith in your girls, they will pull through for you!
 

Bakersfield

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I used Canna coco bricks, I washed half and the other half did not get washed. I cannot tell any difference, the all took off like crazy! Most coco does need to be washed, but I'm a firm believer now it's not likely with canna unless your working with seedlings. I would still recommend ppl wash it, just in case. Batches can always vary. The AN sensi coco puts my ph exactly at 5.8 every single time, regardless whether it is rain water, tap water, or water from the dehumidifier... I love the stuff!

I chose not to use any perlite for my first round with coco and it's actually working out great. More root space really and I was honestly nervous about that move... Hope it continues to thrive!
I love Canna coco.
Canna is a premium coco product that has already been washed and conditioned.
I would use it, but my closest retailer is 2 hours away and it costs a bit more.
 

Kndreyn

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My local store has CYCO Coco Coir, CYCO Coco Coirw/ Mycorrhizae and Mother Earth Coco. They also have some with worm castings and one they called seamix. The Mother Earth brand is more expensive than the CYCO brand. Any recommendations on these?
 
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