Cannarado genetics

silverhazefiend

silverhazefiend

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In a week I’ll post some boring veg shots I have about 4 or 5 rado strains .. single scoop has the 2 biggest veg differences so far one is small the other is taller

Has anyone ever experimented with high intensity low wattage led levels ? The ppfd must be crazy

I had a hlg 185 (same little cob that can run 300) ..swapped ballast to the same thing but 40 watt version ..(hlg 185h-54a —>hlg 40h-54a)
everything’s good except the light made my plants all taco

they didn’t change colors or look unhealthy just Taco from too much light .. my tent is 2 fight high And 4.5 feet wide and the light is tied to the roof .. there’s more than a foot btwn the light and plants .. I moved them all to one side and the light to the other and there happy now

some of the plants have adjusted and the leaves have angled to catch all the light .. I’ve used all kinds of lights but these Samsung leds are a beast i would put this light against any 250watt
I vegged with a 250 mh and this never happen at 12 inches away just heat stress
 
thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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silverhazefiend said:
In a week I’ll post some boring veg shots I have about 4 or 5 rado strains .. single scoop has the 2 biggest veg differences so far one is small the other is taller

Has anyone ever experimented with high intensity low wattage led levels ? The ppfd must be crazy

I had a hlg 185 (same little cob that can run 300) ..swapped ballast to the same thing but 40 watt version ..(hlg 185h-54a —>hlg 40h-54a)
everything’s good except the light made my plants all taco

they didn’t change colors or look unhealthy just Taco from too much light .. my tent is 2 fight high And 4.5 feet wide and the light is tied to the roof .. there’s more than a foot btwn the light and plants .. I moved them all to one side and the light to the other and there happy now

some of the plants have adjusted and the leaves have angled to catch all the light .. I’ve used all kinds of lights but these Samsung leds are a beast i would put this light against any 250watt
I vegged with a 250 mh and this never happen at 12 inches away just heat stress
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I recently swapped out my 4ft 4 bulb t5 veg light for 2 hlg 65 4000k qb and the plants aren't liking it as much as the t5.

They dont look bad and are vegging fine but not as robust as with the fluorescent t5.

I'll give it some time but might switch back.
 
Nate Dogg

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40AmpstoFreedom

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thenotsoesoteric said:
I recently swapped out my 4ft 4 bulb t5 veg light for 2 hlg 65 4000k qb and the plants aren't liking it as much as the t5.

They dont look bad and are vegging fine but not as robust as with the fluorescent t5.

I'll give it some time but might switch back.
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I have had the same experience with cobs. I flower fine under them, but veg is not kosher. I went and bought 315 watt LEC lights for veg.
 
JewelRunner

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
I have had the same experience with cobs. I flower fine under them, but veg is not kosher. I went and bought 315 watt LEC lights for veg.
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I swapped out my 400 mh for 2 240w 4000 qb’s and everything is going good. I’m lighting 5x5 with them and keep them up at least two feet above the canopy. Also run 18/6 and have a fan blowing over the tops. The plants like it hot under full spectrum led too. 85-90 in veg. If you’re running colder than 80 for an extended amount of time the plants are more likely to show deficiencies, my experience.
 
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JewelRunner

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Nate Dogg said:
I was asking him earlier if he used the crinkle cut or the respect cut to make fatso and he said Legend/Respect OG. He basically said the legend/respect OG is more of an OG and he didn’t know what the Crinkle cut was. So any Legend/Respect OG crosses should be some straight heat. I’m glad I choose that Gushers and Legend/Respect OG cross over the rest, because it should add some lovely classic OG terps to the Gushers. If anyone has any of his Legend crosses and love OG, it sounds like you’ll be in for a real treat.
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Maybe he is saying the crinkle is just “whatever” compared to the respect, but he’s worked with the crinkle before.2101F14C-FC68-4F0A-91CB-BDE5BE518C67.jpeg
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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JewelRunner said:
I swapped out my 400 mh for 2 240w 4000 qb’s and everything is going good. I’m lighting 5x5 with them and keep them up at least two feet above the canopy. Also run 18/6 and have a fan blowing over the tops. The plants like it hot under full spectrum led too. 85-90 in veg. If you’re running colder than 80 for an extended amount of time the plants are more likely to show deficiencies, my experience.
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I believe there is truth to the higher temps under leds. I read the same thing when I was researching trying to figure out what was up with veg around 2 years ago cuz in the same room I had many plants under flouros and they were bopping (68-72 degrees but the cobs in same room were not well) meanwhile flower room at a steady 89-94 degrees and shit was plush too. I also think that COBS run shit way too hard in veg and that you should do like you said and experiment with 18/6 and 20/24 I did not have time for it yet though and just went back to what works period.

I found it interesting when I noted my experience with the manufacturer that they said co2 fixes this problem...Kind of makes sense because co2 would allow them to handle the harsher lights I would think logically.
 
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thenotsoesoteric

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JewelRunner said:
I swapped out my 400 mh for 2 240w 4000 qb’s and everything is going good. I’m lighting 5x5 with them and keep them up at least two feet above the canopy. Also run 18/6 and have a fan blowing over the tops. The plants like it hot under full spectrum led too. 85-90 in veg. If you’re running colder than 80 for an extended amount of time the plants are more likely to show deficiencies, my experience.
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That must be my issue, too cool. I'll just ride it out because itll get warm enough soon.
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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I had to make a crucial edit to post #4930 that is as follows or it made 0 sense:

***** but the cobs in same room were not well) *****

I made this a seperate post because I feel it is important enough and has enough substance to matter (what we are talking bout temps and led).
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That must be my issue, too cool. I'll just ride it out because itll get warm enough soon.
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I wager it is. I want more thorough science based testing but observation says this is the case so far.
 
JewelRunner

JewelRunner

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
I had to make a crucial edit to post #4930 that is as follows or it made 0 sense:

***** but the cobs in same room were not well) *****

I made this a seperate post because I feel it is important enough and has enough substance to matter (what we are talking bout temps and led).


I wager it is. I want more thorough science based testing but observation says this is the case so far.
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less Infrared in led so leaf surface temps are lower at the same ambient temp vs hid.

https://www.blackdogled.com/lst
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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I did next day. I am not hearing no, "oh we ran out before your order got here" bullshit. It's cool though he has the beans even though someone may not get or walk away with our cash...I am sure he would do everyone right. Even GPS did everyone right when he mistakenly sold everyone hemp seeds lol. It's probably more of a website email thing than anything. He put up website testing message and then he said chill on mailing in.
 
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silverhazefiend

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JewelRunner said:
Where did you get the seeds from out of curiosity? I had some csi from glo act like that
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Glo

but I wanna say I ran some glo seed b4 this and it didn’t happen only thing I changed Is the led

Its crazy y’all have similar experiences .. I thought I had bugs but I’m like impossible everything is brand new unless the soil had issues .. then I moved them away from the light and they started to un taco.. every plant did it it had to be the light

i was shopping for 2 ft t5s to balance out the spectrum and hang above the plants I’m cheap tho so who got some cheap ones
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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silverhazefiend said:
Glo

but I wanna say I ran some glo seed b4 this and it didn’t happen only thing I changed Is the led

Its crazy y’all have similar experiences .. I thought I had bugs but I’m like impossible everything is brand new unless the soil had issues .. then I moved them away from the light and they started to un taco.. every plant did it it had to be the light

i was shopping for 2 ft t5s to balance out the spectrum and hang above the plants I’m cheap tho so who got some cheap ones
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It isn't crazy. What we all observed as growers is real. We have experience, know our plants, and pay attention. I think one thing especially with cobs is the extreme direct light. I think the spread of systems like spyders and what not are better because of this. LED is extremely direct.

Funny sort of off topic info. I recently posted a science study on bees making flowers flower early by gnawing on them. Turns out old school mj growers have been piercing their stems for ages to force flower. One of those old 'wives tales'/'bro science' that is actually very logical and true.
 
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