Covid-19

Laughing Grass

Well-Known Member
Caveat, just my opinion.

Everyone needs to wear actual N95 or N100 PPE and eye protection when in contact with others. Contract tracing is hopeless (sorry public health officials). It's a dodge to make people feel less bad about the risk they are taking walking about without antibodies or actual PPE. Invest in PPE and you are free to go out and about and do whatever. However contact tracing will be a nice job which we need more of right now.

PPE interferes with a tan and you'll have to hold it on your face for hair styling. I'll let you know how that works next week. Right now would be a very bad time to take the risk of eating indoors at a restaurant but the younger, healthier and less risk averse might be open to it. I wish them well and thank them for their efforts in getting us to herd immunity.

This entire shit show could have been sorted with heavy investment in PPE and using America's DPA to ramp up PPE production early. My best advice is invest in a reusable respirator 1/2 face or full face with a filter cartridge like a 60921 that's a P100 as well as for organic vapor. Wear it until you get a vaccine and demonstrate an antibody titer on an Elisa test.
I bought a 10 pack of kn95 masks from China and they're alright, although I've read about different health organizations rejecting them for not meeting safety standards. I've been mainly using disposable surgical masks for grocery shopping and running errands. The kn95 masks I have are the ones that go around your head instead of your ears. It sucked having to hold it against my face while they cut my hair... sweat dripping off my nose.

I mean no disrespect to Americans, but Canada is coming out of covid in much better shape than the US, we had less than 393 new cases yesterday for the entire country, Ontario alone had over 500 new cases on the 1st of June with most coming from the Toronto area. The support from the population has been good for the most part with only a small fringe group fighting against the safety measures. I think Canadians will be more willing to use a contact tracing app, they're hoping for 40-50% of the population will use it.

No.

"They" LIE!
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But... but it's Blackberry approved!
 

lokie

Well-Known Member
Ok, so here's a question. I have zero background in public health or manufacturing lab equipment. I have never had a contract with the federal gov't. I might have multiple criminal incidents in my background any check would turn up.

How do I get one of these multi-million dollar contracts to supply lab and medical stuff to the trump admin with no quality checks and no returns? Do I need to belong to some kind of club, or maybe contribute to a particular cause? Because damn, there is a gravy train and I want a ticket!

The Trump Administration Paid Millions for Test Tubes — and Got Unusable Mini Soda Bottles

This is best directed to Politics.
 

Singlemalt

Well-Known Member
I bought a 10 pack of kn95 masks from China and they're alright, although I've read about different health organizations rejecting them for not meeting safety standards. I've been mainly using disposable surgical masks for grocery shopping and running errands. The kn95 masks I have are the ones that go around your head instead of your ears. It sucked having to hold it against my face while they cut my hair... sweat dripping off my nose.

I mean no disrespect to Americans, but Canada is coming out of covid in much better shape than the US, we had less than 393 new cases yesterday for the entire country, Ontario alone had over 500 new cases on the 1st of June with most coming from the Toronto area. The support from the population has been good for the most part with only a small fringe group fighting against the safety measures. I think Canadians will be more willing to use a contact tracing app, they're hoping for 40-50% of the population will use it.



But... but it's Blackberry approved!
Of course, you are Canadian, land of the congenitally nice and polite
 

tangerinegreen555

Well-Known Member
If they’d’a had a civil war, the adjective would have been appropriate.


So long as Quebec doesn’t get involved :joint::bigjoint:
I think Canadians were too civil to have a civil war.

I also wonder why we had to fight England for independence but they just kinda released Canada in 1867?

They made a nice commemorative coin a hundred years later.

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My dad once had 5 of those in 1967 but sold them for a handsome profit a couple years later. They were illegal to cross the border with at the time.

I'd love to add one to my collection, just for the family numismatic history. Maybe if we get another covid stimulus check I'll stimulate the numismatic economy.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I think Canadians were too civil to have a civil war.

I also wonder why we had to fight England for independence but they just kinda released Canada in 1867?

They made a nice commemorative coin a hundred years later.

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My dad once had 5 of those in 1967 but sold them for a handsome profit a couple years later. They were illegal to cross the border with at the time.

I'd love to add one to my collection, just for the family numismatic history. Maybe if we get another covid stimulus check I'll stimulate the numismatic economy.
‘Til 1910 Canadians were “subjects”.
Americans have always been into rather more instant gratification.
 

Laughing Grass

Well-Known Member
Of course, you are Canadian, land of the congenitally nice and polite
You'd be surprised, I can be a raving bitch when necessary.

‘Til 1910 Canadians were “subjects”.
Americans have always been into rather more instant gratification.
The Monarch is still the head of state of Canada. Bills that pass the legislature and senate require royal assent. Since 1937 that's more or less been a rubber stamp. The governor general is selected by the prime minister as the Monarch's representative and is the commander in chief of the armed forces and has several other procedural duties.

Personally I hope we ditch this entire system once the queen passes.
 

greg nr

Well-Known Member
The app for Ontario is made by Shopify... same guys who do our legal cannabis store.




:???: Blackberry? I didn't know they still existed.

As someone pointed out, the tech already exists to de-anonymize cell phone data publicly available. It is an open secret you can be easily tracked.

All it really takes is following a particular anonymity phone and see where it calls home. If your phone is at 123 smokey way every night, they can now see who lives there. Add where you go to work, and they can narrow it down pretty easily if multiple people live there. Then they have you, all with public anonymity data.

These apps are meant to notify you if you have been near someone who has the illness beyond a certain amount of time. Then you can self isolate and get tested.

Presumably the double bubbas won't opt in. But if enough normal people do, it could help slow spread. Its like contact tracing. Mostly voluntary but not perfect.

As a rule, I keep location services off. For the apps I allow it, I only allow it while using the app.

So if I went to a work site, meeting, or traveled on a public system like a plane, I might turn it on. Normal personal movement, no.

There is a middle ground.
 
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