2020 MASSACHUSETTS outdoor grow Thread!
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Trainwreckertonville
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One dude that really brings it up is leighton morrison. If you don’t listen to the shaping fire podcast check out the 11-13-19 episode, last time he was on there. Mix’s like the coots mix somewhat depend on that composting layer as a nitrogen source. Sounds like what your doing is somewhat achieving the same thing minus blocking all the light out?
If you don’t already have one check out a blumats digital moisture sensor, when I smothered my clovers just like yours the watering literally went to running the drips 2 minutes a few times a week. Crazy.
Trainwreckertonville
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Ya your getting screwed this year.
dsmer
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I found mold on 3 of my plants this morning 
very depressing to say the least. What’s everyone’s take on dealing with this? I’m still new to outdoor and don’t have much experience dealing with bud rot. Is there a organic fungicide that works well? I have some actinovate but it’s a few years old and not sure if I should use it
very depressing to say the least. What’s everyone’s take on dealing with this? I’m still new to outdoor and don’t have much experience dealing with bud rot. Is there a organic fungicide that works well? I have some actinovate but it’s a few years old and not sure if I should use itLast year I ran into it in Sept. A spray solution of about 4 oz. of 3% peroxide per quart of water helped keep it at bay, but didn't completely eradicate it. At that point the plants were in full flower and I ended up trimming leaves that were affected as well.
Also had some bud rot from caterpillars; I dealt with that by spraying B.t.
Also had some bud rot from caterpillars; I dealt with that by spraying B.t.
dsmer
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the caterpillars is what did me in last year. Didn’t lose much but wherever I found mold there was caterpillar poops in that area
Same with my plants last year - poop = rot. I've already seen a couple of caterpillars on this year's plants. While they are still several weeks away from starting to flower, if I find more I'll hit the plants with B.t. It's always going to be a challenge growing in this climate.
dunphy
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Nice ... how does that PVC watering system work for you?
dunphy
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Not sure of anything you could use in full flower other than keep a fan on them, try to lower that RH.. keep a vigilant eye and cut your losses... cut out the rot/mold.. Can try a light peroxide mix but id probably put it on a paper towel and wipe each spot by hand, rather than spraying it. Sorry I cant help anymore... def try to get some air movement out there and lower that RH as best you can. Are they too big to bring inside?I found mold on 3 of my plants this morning
dsmer
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i put a fan on them yesterday and I leave it on all night when humidity is at its highest. They are planted in the ground so no moving them unfortunately
dunphy
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Ah I see. well the fan should at least help. Be careful turning it on and off. I've found and read that its the swing of temp/rh more so than the highs or lows so you want to have steady changes... if its going to be humid that day and its unavoidable, try your best to at least make that transition as easy as possible.
Only other suggestion I can make is when you are cutting it out, dont try to save too much by cutting so close to the affected areas. Cut a wide swath of the area, with a decent amount of good looking bud in there to try and get all of it. Then wipe/spray down with that peroxide mix. or for like wpm you can try a milk/water 1:9 ratio and wipe that on those spots as well. But theres no point in trying to save a bit by not cutting enough out, and then coming back to find the spot just grew bigger... So better off taking it right from the beginning and treat the area (kill that fan during this cutting/treating) and immediately bag up your cuts so you're not spreading spores everywhere... Maybe even a spray bottle of just water to try and knock down any floating spores or neutralize (if it works... not sure if plain water would) by spraying your arms and hands and stuff when you're switching from one plant over to the next so you can avoid any cross contamination.
Sorry brotha, best of luck to you.
dsmer
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Ah I see. well the fan should at least help. Be careful turning it on and off. I've found and read that its the swing of temp/rh more so than the highs or lows so you want to have steady changes... if its going to be humid that day and its unavoidable, try your best to at least make that transition as easy as possible.
Only other suggestion I can make is when you are cutting it out, dont try to save too much by cutting so close to the affected areas. Cut a wide swath of the area, with a decent amount of good looking bud in there to try and get all of it. Then wipe/spray down with that peroxide mix. or for like wpm you can try a milk/water 1:9 ratio and wipe that on those spots as well. But theres no point in trying to save a bit by not cutting enough out, and then coming back to find the spot just grew bigger... So better off taking it right from the beginning and treat the area (kill that fan during this cutting/treating) and immediately bag up your cuts so you're not spreading spores everywhere... Maybe even a spray bottle of just water to try and knock down any floating spores or neutralize (if it works... not sure if plain water would) by spraying your arms and hands and stuff when you're switching from one plant over to the next so you can avoid any cross contamination.
Sorry brotha, best of luck to you.
thanks I’ll keep that in mind. I’m not “that” concerned as it’s my first run of outdoor autos and it’s more of an experiment. I have 6 photo plants goin as well in some pots so I’ll have a second outdoor harvest regardless. Im really starting to think an enclosed greenhouse with a dehumidifier/ventilation is in my future for next year. I hate not being able to control environment
Dannydavito
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heaze2010
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It works ok, saves me time from having to walk to the back end of my yard. Just have to open the back door and turn the spigot. Was hoping for way more plants Only have 12 plus 3 autos that’s why I made it. Next year hopefully I can have like 20 of them back there. We’ll see how it goes. Only my 3rd year outdoors. Last year I did them in 5 gallon buckets and they seemed to max out on growth at 5 1/2 ft could of been shitty genetics to this year I cut the bottoms of the buckets off hopefully more root growth bigger plants . Plus I steal ideas here and there I see on different sites. Trying some different strains to, see what fits the best in this climate. It’s a lot of guesswork it seems.
Trainwreckertonville
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BT starting next week onward.
doug mirabelli
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How often do you plan on spraying?
Nizza
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I even spray all the surrounding trees with the BT when I do outdoors. I noticed the most caterpillars are found on the plants underneath trees. They must use their webs to suspend down onto them or something. Actually I always try to spray any pesticides on the surrounding plants as well
Tty
Yeah I think I’m at that point of declaring war too. Found a couple of rose beetles chewing away last night. First pic is the leaf they were chewing, second pic is of damage caused by some unknown pest.
Yeah I think I’m at that point of declaring war too. Found a couple of rose beetles chewing away last night. First pic is the leaf they were chewing, second pic is of damage caused by some unknown pest.
greg nr
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Which bt are you folks using? Indoors I use a mosquito sub-strain which seems to work on anything with wings ans some crawling jerks. But there are sub-species which work much better on caterpillars. Oh, and there is one that is toxic to honeybees - don't use that one (Certan (B.t. variety aizawa)) outdoors.