Kanye 2020?

CunningCanuk

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You're referring to this I presume?:

"I'm not saying Trump's in my way, he may be a part of my way. And Joe Biden? Like come on man, please," the publication also quoted West as saying. "You know? Obama's special. Trump's special. We say Kanye West is special. America needs special people that lead. Bill Clinton? Special. Joe Biden's not special."

You’re special alright, Kanye. Lol.
 

Fogdog

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Narcissists suffering from bi-polar disorder have no place in public service...
I have a strong bias against narcissists and am bothered by reports of his suffering from bi-polar disorder. More to the point, I actively dislike the guy and what he has done. That said, those are purely my own biases and not valid reasons for rejecting his bid for office. I object to West's political positions. Many are odious. Also, he has no leadership experience in a public office.

I want my president to have a good track record of working well with others in a position of leadership in public office, preferably national office.

Elizabeth Warren, for example.
 
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schuylaar

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While I have a strong bias against narcissists and am bothered by reports of his suffering from bi-polar disorder, those are emotional bias and not valid reasons for rejecting his bid for office. I object to West's political positions. Many are odious. Also, he has no leadership experience in a public office.
it is after mango monster is 'letting it wash over' our country..and in the case of a president? he's subject to a more rigorous scrutiny now and will always be.

there's no HIPAA for a president and for good reason.

since you're 2-3x more likely to contract aren't you a little upset that his fvcker may take your life?
 

waktoo

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I have a strong bias against narcissists and am bothered by reports of his suffering from bi-polar disorder. More to the point, I actively dislike the guy and what he has done. That said, those are purely my own biases and not valid reasons for rejecting his bid for office. I object to West's political positions. Many are odious. Also, he has no leadership experience in a public office.

I want my president to have a good track record of working well with others in a position of leadership in public office, preferably national office.

Elizabeth Warren, for example.
I disagree. I believe clinical diagnosis of bipolar disorder IS a valid reason to reject his bid for office. Bipolar disorder affects ones ability to make rational, informed decisions. Not a quality suited for public office...

 

Fogdog

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it is after mango monster is 'letting it wash over' our country..and in the case of a president? he's subject to a more rigorous scrutiny now and will always be.

there's no HIPAA for a president and for good reason.

since you're 2-3x more likely to contract aren't you a little upset that his fvcker may take your life?
I am biased against narcissists but all leading politicians are narcissists. Very few politicians are Narcissist Personality Disorder types like Trump but they all are more narcissistic than the average person. So, I deal with my bias by comparing the candidate to an objective list of behaviors that the candidate must exhibit in order to get my vote. Both Trump and West are not qualified to be prez, IMO. I say this based upon my own set of objective behavioral criteria.

Take the narcissist, Sanders, for example. He checked off some important criteria but was lacking in others, so I rejected him. His narcissism had nothing to do with why Bernie was not qualified to be prez.

I don't understand the rest of your message.
 

schuylaar

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I am biased against narcissists but all leading politicians are narcissists. Very few politicians are Narcissist Personality Disorder types like Trump but they all are more narcissistic than the average person. So, I deal with my bias by comparing the candidate to an objective list of behaviors that the candidate must exhibit in order to get my vote. Both Trump and West are not qualified to be prez, IMO. I say this based upon my own set of objective behavioral criteria.

Take the narcissist, Sanders, for example. He checked off some important criteria but was lacking in others, so I rejected him. His narcissism had nothing to do with why Bernie was not qualified to be prez.

I don't understand the rest of your message.
this thread is about Kanye West- please stay on topic and please answer my fvcking question, first.

as a black man you are 2-3x more likely to contract covid19, i don't know your co-morbidity but hospitalization also goes up..isn't this a little upsetting for you..how about for your mother?
 

Fogdog

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I disagree. I believe clinical diagnosis of bipolar disorder IS a valid reason to reject his bid for office. Bipolar disorder affects ones ability to make rational, informed decisions. Not a quality suited for public office...

I understand why you are biased against narcissists because I'm biased against them too. If you are saying Trump has NPD, I'd say you are probably right. I recognize my bias and so I set objective criteria that I use to screen candidates. My problems with Trump are that he opposes progressive-left social initiatives, he's a white supremacist, he has no experience in public office and no track record of accomplishment. Also, Trump has never demonstrated the ability to work with others in order to get difficult tasks accomplished. I don't need to include my own bias in the discussion.

Objectively, he's not my kind of prez. Besides, I don't like him. I didn't like Bill Clinton but I think he was a good president and don't regret voting for him. Bill was also a narcissist. Maybe even NPD.
 

waktoo

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I understand why you are biased against narcissists because I'm biased against them too. If you are saying Trump has NPD, I'd say you are probably right. I recognize my bias and so I set objective criteria that I use to screen candidates. My problems with Trump are that he opposes progressive-left social initiatives, he's a white supremacist, he has no experience in public office and no track record of accomplishment. Also, Trump has never demonstrated the ability to work with others in order to get difficult tasks accomplished. I don't need to include my own bias in the discussion.

Objectively, he's not my kind of prez. Besides, I don't like him. I didn't like Bill Clinton but I think he was a good president and don't regret voting for him. Bill was also a narcissist. Maybe even NPD.
OK. :roll:

Back to Kanye...

 

Fogdog

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this thread is about Kanye West- please stay on topic and please answer my fvcking question, first.

as a black man you are 2-3x more likely to contract covid19, i don't know your co-morbidity but hospitalization also goes up..isn't this a little upsetting for you..how about for your mother?
I think Kanye West would make a terrible president. I say this objectively and am trying to factor out my own bias against his narcissism by using behavioral criteria that can be objectively verified.

What does Kanye West have to do with black people being more likely to contract this disease?
 

Fogdog

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OK. :roll:

Back to Kanye...

To reiterate, Kanye West's personal issues are not why I think he would be a bad president. I object to the idea of West as president because he is socially conservative and has long been a Trump supporter.

I don't give a shit about his narcissism.
 

schuylaar

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I think Kanye West would make a terrible president. I say this objectively and am trying to factor out my own bias against his narcissism by using behavioral criteria that can be objectively verified.

What does Kanye West have to do with black people being more likely to contract this disease?
touche..actually your last two post were quite cogent and worth answering.

he's black and a judas goat..one of trumpys* minions here to do Satan's bidding..do you really think Kanye's music is that great?
 

Fogdog

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touche..actually your last two post were quite cogent and worth answering.

he's black and a judas goat..one of trumpys* minions here to do Satan's bidding..do you really think Kanye's music is that great?
What does Kanye being black have to do with him not being qualified to be prez?
 

schuylaar

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What does Kanye being black have to do with him not being qualified to be prez?
the same reason Sanders's being white makes him qualified.

if you knew the presidents IQ was 78, would you have voted him? would anyone have?

withholding information is the same as lying.
 

topcat

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I don't know who this person is and I don't care to research the name.
Edit: What I can tell him is this publicity stunt has been done and it hasn't turned out well.
 
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Fogdog

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the same reason Sanders's being white makes him qualified.

if you knew the presidents IQ was 78, would you have voted him? would anyone have?

withholding information is the same as lying.
Sanders was not qualified to be president because he was unaccomplished as Senator and doesn't work well with others. Kanye is not qualified because he has zero experience in an elected office and he is a religious conservative, for starters.

I don't factor in IQ. It's not really a good metric for intelligence. Or ability.
 

hanimmal

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touche..actually your last two post were quite cogent and worth answering.

he's black and a judas goat..one of trumpys* minions here to do Satan's bidding..do you really think Kanye's music is that great?
I think he is just being manipulated online like everyone else.

It wouldn't be the first time their families social media exposure made them a target.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/01/kim-kardashian-paris-robbery-social-media-heist
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And yeah his music is that great. But it is him being an American that enables him to run for president. I doubt he will actually get the signatures and everything, unless Trump's militarized trolls help him get on state ballots (if there is still time).
 
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