40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip

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Bigdaddy76

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I didn't get your message.?.
I thought water curing eliminated smells? Sorry, that’s an old post of yours about water curing, but that’s what I’ve always read. I’m currently reading this whole thread and am on page 51. I’ll comment again when I catch up to current. Pure awesomeness!
 

Renfro

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I thought water curing eliminated smells? Sorry, that’s an old post of yours about water curing, but that’s what I’ve always read. I’m currently reading this whole thread and am on page 51. I’ll comment again when I catch up to current. Pure awesomeness!
I suppose the terpenes aren't water soluble so much.
 

Bigdaddy76

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I suppose the terpenes aren't water soluble so much.
Aren’t terpenes connected to smell? Like smoke smells similar to taste. Figured if it’s eliminating smell, it somehow neutralized terps. I know people who water cure, so they can smoke in public, without people really knowing.
 

Bigdaddy76

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You’ve inspired me to invest in side lighting, as soon as I get more power ran to my shop, because I’m maxed out now, I’m going to add a shit load of side lighting to my flower room 8’x16’x8’, but all LED. Currently I have 3 Black Dog Phytomax2 1000’s and one 800, on lightrails. I’d like to buy 10-12 Alibaba, knock off lights, and line my walls. They are actually supposed to be pretty damn good and have the new tech. Especially for price. If I didn’t need so many, I’d go with a more expensive lights if I didn’t need so many. Just hope my split would keep up with the heat cause I just bought it before I read about your side lighting. Lol
 
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Renfro

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Just hope my split would keep up with the heat cause I just bought it before I read about your side lighting. Lol
Well do the math and see what it can handle. You can also put the side lighting on a high temperature shutoff, this will prevent the temperatures from getting out of hand. This is how I run my rooms, so in the event the AC shits a brick or just isn't keeping up the side lighting will kick off, wait for them room to cool down, then wait an additional delay setting and kick back on. I also have my autopilot day temp set to a little higher than the AC should hold and plugged in my intake blowers to the cooling port. If the room gets too warm the controller stops CO2 enrichment and starts the intake blowers. With these two things in play I never have to worry about cooking a room when I am not watching.
 

Bigdaddy76

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Well do the math and see what it can handle. You can also put the side lighting on a high temperature shutoff, this will prevent the temperatures from getting out of hand. This is how I run my rooms, so in the event the AC shits a brick or just isn't keeping up the side lighting will kick off, wait for them room to cool down, then wait an additional delay setting and kick back on. I also have my autopilot day temp set to a little higher than the AC should hold and plugged in my intake blowers to the cooling port. If the room gets too warm the controller stops CO2 enrichment and starts the intake blowers. With these two things in play I never have to worry about cooking a room when I am not watching.
I just put in a Diakin 12000 BTU.
 

Keesje

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@Renfro
Do you also use dehumidifiers, and if so, how many watts do they pull and how much water do they take out of the room in 24 hours?
 

Keesje

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I had a discussion on another forum.
The guy said that they use so many watts (like 500 or more, with 220 volts) and then do only about 30 tot 40 liters (10 gallons) per 24 hour.
 

Renfro

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I had a discussion on another forum.
The guy said that they use so many watts (like 500 or more, with 220 volts) and then do only about 30 tot 40 liters (10 gallons) per 24 hour.
Well a unit that small wouldn't use 240 volt power here in the US. A 40 pint unit is the smallest they make I think. 500 watts could be about right. Dehumidifiers are basically small AC units with the condenser coil located indoors. I have a Quest dual 205 that requires a dedicated 20 amp 120 volt feed, above that their line goes to 240 volt. It pulls 13.2 amps at 120 volts (1584 watts) and is rated at 205 pints per day. Of course air temperature and humidity have a lot to do with how much it will actually pull. It is ran to a floor drain so I dunno how much it pulls other than to say "enough". lol
 

Renfro

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I run my swamp coolers a lot as the ambient RH% is very low here, usually in the 20's, the dehus are for later flowering mostly.
 

2com

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Well a unit that small wouldn't use 240 volt power here in the US. A 40 pint unit is the smallest they make I think. 500 watts could be about right. Dehumidifiers are basically small AC units with the condenser coil located indoors. I have a Quest dual 205 that requires a dedicated 20 amp 120 volt feed, above that their line goes to 240 volt. It pulls 13.2 amps at 120 volts (1584 watts) and is rated at 205 pints per day. Of course air temperature and humidity have a lot to do with how much it will actually pull. It is ran to a floor drain so I dunno how much it pulls other than to say "enough". lol
I was watching some consumer (products) review channel the other week. It was really informative, I learned somethings about portable ac's that I misunderstood before (I know they're shit in general). But anyways, it mentioned that the "conditions" that are used as standard to test these devices were changed (somewhat recently), for example the base temp and rh they start testing from was changed. This changed the ratings of, what I'd think, is basically all dehumidifiers. So a 70pint is not a 50pint, a 60pint is now a 40pint - something like this, and it's largely do to them testing/rating at a colder base temp than before (for homes, basements, etc.).

Thought I'd throw that out for anyone.
 

Bigdaddy76

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Quality is my main goal, then yield is a close second. My girl does the trim. She is pretty fast, way faster than me. We have a T4 trimming machine but it doesn't please me. I think trimming machines are best left to outdoor growers with massive yields, but even then who wants to beat up their pretty nugs in a machine?


Thanks bro. She is doing much better now. I am glad to have her home. She went right to work. She was bored AF from being in the hospital and she is normally on the move getting stuff done.
I think I get the same thing your girl had, a few times a year, for the last 10 years or so. However, I’ve never been to doctor about it. The longest I’ve been sick was 2 weeks, but normally it’s around 3 days. Hot showers are the only things that makes me feel better. Only problem is, I run out of hot water after a hour and it takes a hour to reheat. Luckily I have a few rentals next door, to my house. I rent one to my sons uncle and I can go to his shower. So I’ll go back and forth all day. I need to have my gas powered, instant hot water heater installed and I’ll never run out of hot water. It’d make being sick a lot easier. Hope she doesn’t get it very often. Maybe she doesn’t feel like a shower but she should at least try. Good chance she’ll feel better, while in hot ass shower. For me, it has to be super hot.
 

2com

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Water curing eliminates smell? I don't think so because it sure didn't happen in my case. Terpenes are not very water soluble.
I was wondering about this recently. When bubble hash is made, the waster can be visibly colored (golden, green, purple, etc) and it smells pretty fragrant. I've heard some people reference that they drink it, chilled, after making bubble (clean, "organic" growers anyway), and the smells/flavors it has.
If some terpenes are volatile at room/ambient temp, it seems reasonable that some would be lost in water - at least when agitated during hash making?
 

Renfro

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I think I get the same thing your girl had, a few times a year, for the last 10 years or so. However, I’ve never been to doctor about it. The longest I’ve been sick was 2 weeks, but normally it’s around 3 days. Hot showers are the only things that makes me feel better. Only problem is, I run out of hot water after a hour and it takes a hour to reheat. Luckily I have a few rentals next door, to my house. I rent one to my sons uncle and I can go to his shower. So I’ll go back and forth all day. I need to have my gas powered, instant hot water heater installed and I’ll never run out of hot water. It’d make being sick a lot easier. Hope she doesn’t get it very often. Maybe she doesn’t feel like a shower but she should at least try. Good chance she’ll feel better, while in hot ass shower. For me, it has to be super hot.
They figured out why she is always feeling like garbage. Cirrhosis of the liver. So she won't be getting better. They have her on lasiks pills to help with the ascites. Sad. She is only 40 and had finally listened to me and stopped drinking last winter (she was the heaviest drinker I ever met).

I was wondering about this recently. When bubble hash is made, the waster can be visibly colored (golden, green, purple, etc) and it smells pretty fragrant. I've heard some people reference that they drink it, chilled, after making bubble (clean, "organic" growers anyway), and the smells/flavors it has.
If some terpenes are volatile at room/ambient temp, it seems reasonable that some would be lost in water - at least when agitated during hash making?
I think that some terpenes are more water soluble than others probably.
 

Bigdaddy76

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Renfro, if you’re going to be freezing everything and making rosin, make sure harvest is in deep freeze, within 45 minutes of being chopped. Yields go down if you wait any longer. Also don’t stack bags in freezer. Have enough deep freeze freezers, you don’t need to stack. This is all info from my boy, who makes high end rosin for a living. He’s getting $16000/lb black market and then has 502 for legit side of business. He sets medical card people rooms up, with his strains, to grow for his black market rosin business. They average $5000-$5500 a 1000w light, growing for him. For harvest, he sends people over to chop it, to ensure everything is in deep freeze, within the 45 minute window. Better money in that then selling bud, if you have your strains and systems down.
 

2com

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@Renfro You will not regret switching over to Jacks, neither will your wallet or your plants. And your friend is right about running it full strength from start to finish. I tried running it half strength and once my plants got larger (and their nutritional requirements became more demanding) I was running into deficiencies. That went away once switching to full strength. I've since fed all my other plants full strength from the beginning of life and they are all thriving, no burn whatsoever.

If you ever switch PH pens look at the AI311 from Apera. It has replaceable glass probes and his been the best PH pen I've ever used.

https://www.amazon.com/Apera-Instruments-AI311-Replaceable-2-00-16-00/dp/B01ENFOIQE/ref=sr_1_3?crid=6H15FZVCEGP2&keywords=apera+ph+meter&qid=1550588222&s=industrial&sprefix=apera+ph,industrial,184&sr=1-3
What type of deficiencies did you see? Any pics you could show? Just curious, no big deal if you can't/don't want to.
 
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