Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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Mueller prosecutor Glenn Kirschner: Trump is a "career criminal" guilty of "negligent homicide"
Career federal prosecutor on Trump's crimes, Bill Barr's schemes and where the Mueller investigation went wrong

Donald Trump has inflicted mass death on the American people through his malevolent, indifferent and willfully cruel response to the coronavirus pandemic. In the United States more than 5 million people have been diagnosed and 166,000 people have now died — and the true numbers are likely much higher. Public health experts predict that the final death toll may be as high as 250,000 to 300,000.

Yale University public health expert Dr. Gregg Gonsalves summarized this dire situation in a recent conversation with Salon:

Trump's pandemic response is not the same as Nazi Germany. It is not Rwanda. But Trump's response is something that is well beyond a policy mistake. One hundred thousand people are dead. There are likely to be 150,000 or perhaps even 200,000 dead from the coronavirus pandemic in the United States. The estimates are that two-thirds or more of the deaths could have been prevented. ...

Moreover, it was premeditated. There were people in the White House and elsewhere warning Donald Trump, "People are going to die. We need to do something about this." And the White House made a concerted policy decision to let people die…. What the Trump administration is doing in response to the coronavirus is something we have not seen in the United States in a long time, which is basically wiping out a whole group of people by public policy.

In a recent interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News, Trump responded to a question about deaths from the pandemic by saying, "It is what it is."

Vanity Fair reports that Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner (who was tasked with leading a so-called coronavirus task force) advised the president to abandon a plan for national testing because the pandemic, at the time, was primarily impacting Democratic cities and states. Kushner and the Trump regime made the grotesque decision that sick and dying people in New York, Boston, Chicago and California would somehow help Donald Trump's re-election chances.

Many of the Americans who have died (and will die) from the coronavirus pandemic would likely still be alive if Trump and his regime had treated the coronavirus as a serious public health emergency months ago instead of at first ignoring it, then sabotaging the response for personal and political reasons, and now continuing to risk human lives (including children and elderly people) in a quest to aid Trump's chances of victory by forcibly "reopening" the economy.
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In a new essay at the Atlantic, Ed Yong shows in rich and compelling detail how American government and society failed in its response to the pandemic, observing that Trump is himself a type of "comorbidity" for the pandemic disaster.

During congressional hearings in July, Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker summarized the Trump regime's abandonment of responsibility for the common good and general welfare as resembling a real-life version of the "Hunger Games" books and movies.

It has now been reported that Donald Trump did not care about the coronavirus pandemic until it started to sicken and kill "our people," meaning likely Republican voters in red states. This is more proof, if we needed it, that Trump feels no responsibility to the majority of Americans who do not support him and his regime.
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Jimdamick

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Mueller prosecutor Glenn Kirschner: Trump is a "career criminal" guilty of "negligent homicide"
Career federal prosecutor on Trump's crimes, Bill Barr's schemes and where the Mueller investigation went wrong

Donald Trump has inflicted mass death on the American people through his malevolent, indifferent and willfully cruel response to the coronavirus pandemic. In the United States more than 5 million people have been diagnosed and 166,000 people have now died — and the true numbers are likely much higher. Public health experts predict that the final death toll may be as high as 250,000 to 300,000.

Yale University public health expert Dr. Gregg Gonsalves summarized this dire situation in a recent conversation with Salon:

Trump's pandemic response is not the same as Nazi Germany. It is not Rwanda. But Trump's response is something that is well beyond a policy mistake. One hundred thousand people are dead. There are likely to be 150,000 or perhaps even 200,000 dead from the coronavirus pandemic in the United States. The estimates are that two-thirds or more of the deaths could have been prevented. ...

Moreover, it was premeditated. There were people in the White House and elsewhere warning Donald Trump, "People are going to die. We need to do something about this." And the White House made a concerted policy decision to let people die…. What the Trump administration is doing in response to the coronavirus is something we have not seen in the United States in a long time, which is basically wiping out a whole group of people by public policy.

In a recent interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News, Trump responded to a question about deaths from the pandemic by saying, "It is what it is."

Vanity Fair reports that Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner (who was tasked with leading a so-called coronavirus task force) advised the president to abandon a plan for national testing because the pandemic, at the time, was primarily impacting Democratic cities and states. Kushner and the Trump regime made the grotesque decision that sick and dying people in New York, Boston, Chicago and California would somehow help Donald Trump's re-election chances.

Many of the Americans who have died (and will die) from the coronavirus pandemic would likely still be alive if Trump and his regime had treated the coronavirus as a serious public health emergency months ago instead of at first ignoring it, then sabotaging the response for personal and political reasons, and now continuing to risk human lives (including children and elderly people) in a quest to aid Trump's chances of victory by forcibly "reopening" the economy.
more...
In a new essay at the Atlantic, Ed Yong shows in rich and compelling detail how American government and society failed in its response to the pandemic, observing that Trump is himself a type of "comorbidity" for the pandemic disaster.

During congressional hearings in July, Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker summarized the Trump regime's abandonment of responsibility for the common good and general welfare as resembling a real-life version of the "Hunger Games" books and movies.

It has now been reported that Donald Trump did not care about the coronavirus pandemic until it started to sicken and kill "our people," meaning likely Republican voters in red states. This is more proof, if we needed it, that Trump feels no responsibility to the majority of Americans who do not support him and his regime.
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He'll pay for it, one way or the other.
When he leave's office he's going to get ass fucked by at least the NY courts & his businesses will turn too dust,
Bet on it :)
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Not much more on convalescent plasma therapy, it is difficult to organise large scale trials with placebo volunteers, permissions from large numbers of patients and hospitals are required. The virus has been knocked down in most places and is a fast moving target for gold standard double blinded studies, these problems have been encountered with all the antiviral drugs too. It is hard to gather enough evidence meeting a sufficient standard to call it proof, there will need to be a different approach taken to these issues, like federal regulations and standards of medical evidence in deadly and rapidly evolving pandemics on a risk vs potential benefit basis while evidence is gathered more systematically. A national computerised medical information system would help a lot here, states implement systems with limited customisation to compatibility standards set by the federal government.

For any country that has taken public health measures to knock this pandemic down, as have most countries, antiviral therapies like convalescent plasma, monoclonal antibody therapy (this fall), antiviral drugs and supportive theories like blood thinners and steroids, can have a major impact. I live in NS with a population of almost a million people, we have no current cases but had over a thousand, if someone were to become ill with covid this fall or winter, they might be treated immediately upon testing and showing symptoms with all of the above options. Also since our contact tracers are not busy at all, they would have a lot of them on the case. We hope to have a small rapid testing machine deployed by fall that should help monitor businesses and schools across the country and make reopening much safer. Even though there are no reported cases here, we still require masks to be worn inside or where ya can't social distance, because we want to keep it that way.

If America had responsible government and almost anybody else was president, the situation in the USA would be much like Canada or other developed countries and in some places, much like here in the Atlantic provinces with virtually no cases. After Joe is inaugurated, I believe it will take about 3 months minimum to get covid under control and by june you should be out of the woods, depending on how big a mess Donald is allowed to leave behind.

Donald can be impeached after nov 3rd too ya know and there might be a lot of pissed off and future unemployed republicans in congress by then. They will have nothing to lose they might be looking for revenge and to rehabilitate their reputations by then. Besides Donald could be indicted by NY state by then too, Donald might be gone before Jan 20th. impeached by the house and removed by the senate almost overnight. Pence could follow Joe's orders until then, in exchange for lenient treatment, or even a pardon from Joe (Mitch too, if he plays ball), hire Joe's pandemic team in november and set to work earning redemption by saving lives. Pence is a rat, but a reasonable one who can be dealt with, give this rat a way out (and the presidency) and he will do whatever Joe wants, including appointing his man as AG, as well as his Pandemic team. He can also start holding transition talks with Joe and hand off power in a dignified manner, having Donald in jail by inauguration day would help his case a lot.

Perhaps if Nancy impeached Trump (pick a charge(s) and timed it so they held the senate trial after the election, America would be the jury for Trump's immediate removal in nov.
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Study hints, can’t prove, survivor plasma fights COVID-19

Mayo Clinic researchers reported a strong hint that blood plasma from COVID-19 survivors helps other patients recover, but it’s not proof and some experts worry if, amid clamor for the treatment, they’ll ever get a clear answer.

More than 64,000 patients in the U.S. have been given convalescent plasma, a century-old approach to fend off flu and measles before vaccines. It’s a go-to tactic when new diseases come along, and history suggests it works against some, but not all, infections.

There’s no solid evidence yet that it fights the coronavirus and, if so, how best to use it. But preliminary data from 35,000 coronavirus patients treated with plasma offers what Mayo lead researcher Dr. Michael Joyner on Friday called “signals of efficacy.”

There were fewer deaths among people given plasma within three days of diagnosis, and also among those given plasma containing the highest levels of virus-fighting antibodies, Joyner and colleagues reported.

The problem: This wasn’t a formal study. The patients were treated in different ways in hospitals around the country as part of a Food and Drug Administration program designed to speed access to the experimental therapy. That so-called “expanded access” program tracks what happens to the recipients, but it cannot prove the plasma — and not other care they received — was the real reason for improvement.

Rigorous studies underway around the country are designed to get that proof, by comparing similar patients randomly assigned to get plasma or a dummy infusion in addition to regular care. But those studies have been difficult to finish as the virus waxes and wanes in different cities. Also, some patients have requested plasma rather than agreeing to a study that might give them a placebo instead.

“For 102 years we’ve been debating whether or not convalescent plasma works,” said Dr. Mila Ortigoza of New York University, referring to plasma’s use in the 1918 flu pandemic. This time around, “we really need indisputable evidence.”

Ortigoza is co-leading one such study, which this week is expanding to three other states — Connecticut, Florida and Texas. Her team also is working to pool data with several other clinical trials in other regions, in hopes of faster answers.

“There’s concern about when there will be a clear answer,” agreed infectious disease specialist Dr. Jeffrey Henderson of Washington University in St. Louis.

He’s hopeful the clinical trials will push forward but said the Mayo report is consistent with smaller, earlier plasma studies and “an example of making the best you can of the data that’s available.”
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schuylaar

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Not much more on convalescent plasma therapy, it is difficult to organise large scale trials with placebo volunteers, permissions from large numbers of patients and hospitals are required. The virus has been knocked down in most places and is a fast moving target for gold standard double blinded studies, these problems have been encountered with all the antiviral drugs too. It is hard to gather enough evidence meeting a sufficient standard to call it proof, there will need to be a different approach taken to these issues, like federal regulations and standards of medical evidence in deadly and rapidly evolving pandemics on a risk vs potential benefit basis while evidence is gathered more systematically. A national computerised medical information system would help a lot here, states implement systems with limited customisation to compatibility standards set by the federal government.

For any country that has taken public health measures to knock this pandemic down, as have most countries, antiviral therapies like convalescent plasma, monoclonal antibody therapy (this fall), antiviral drugs and supportive theories like blood thinners and steroids, can have a major impact. I live in NS with a population of almost a million people, we have no current cases but had over a thousand, if someone were to become ill with covid this fall or winter, they might be treated immediately upon testing and showing symptoms with all of the above options. Also since our contact tracers are not busy at all, they would have a lot of them on the case. We hope to have a small rapid testing machine deployed by fall that should help monitor businesses and schools across the country and make reopening much safer. Even though there are no reported cases here, we still require masks to be worn inside or where ya can't social distance, because we want to keep it that way.

If America had responsible government and almost anybody else was president, the situation in the USA would be much like Canada or other developed countries and in some places, much like here in the Atlantic provinces with virtually no cases. After Joe is inaugurated, I believe it will take about 3 months minimum to get covid under control and by june you should be out of the woods, depending on how big a mess Donald is allowed to leave behind.

Donald can be impeached after nov 3rd too ya know and there might be a lot of pissed off and future unemployed republicans in congress by then. They will have nothing to lose they might be looking for revenge and to rehabilitate their reputations by then. Besides Donald could be indicted by NY state by then too, Donald might be gone before Jan 20th. impeached by the house and removed by the senate almost overnight. Pence could follow Joe's orders until then, in exchange for lenient treatment, or even a pardon from Joe (Mitch too, if he plays ball), hire Joe's pandemic team in november and set to work earning redemption by saving lives. Pence is a rat, but a reasonable one who can be dealt with, give this rat a way out (and the presidency) and he will do whatever Joe wants, including appointing his man as AG, as well as his Pandemic team. He can also start holding transition talks with Joe and hand off power in a dignified manner, having Donald in jail by inauguration day would help his case a lot.

Perhaps if Nancy impeached Trump (pick a charge(s) and timed it so they held the senate trial after the election, America would be the jury for Trump's immediate removal in nov.
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Study hints, can’t prove, survivor plasma fights COVID-19

Mayo Clinic researchers reported a strong hint that blood plasma from COVID-19 survivors helps other patients recover, but it’s not proof and some experts worry if, amid clamor for the treatment, they’ll ever get a clear answer.

More than 64,000 patients in the U.S. have been given convalescent plasma, a century-old approach to fend off flu and measles before vaccines. It’s a go-to tactic when new diseases come along, and history suggests it works against some, but not all, infections.

There’s no solid evidence yet that it fights the coronavirus and, if so, how best to use it. But preliminary data from 35,000 coronavirus patients treated with plasma offers what Mayo lead researcher Dr. Michael Joyner on Friday called “signals of efficacy.”

There were fewer deaths among people given plasma within three days of diagnosis, and also among those given plasma containing the highest levels of virus-fighting antibodies, Joyner and colleagues reported.

The problem: This wasn’t a formal study. The patients were treated in different ways in hospitals around the country as part of a Food and Drug Administration program designed to speed access to the experimental therapy. That so-called “expanded access” program tracks what happens to the recipients, but it cannot prove the plasma — and not other care they received — was the real reason for improvement.

Rigorous studies underway around the country are designed to get that proof, by comparing similar patients randomly assigned to get plasma or a dummy infusion in addition to regular care. But those studies have been difficult to finish as the virus waxes and wanes in different cities. Also, some patients have requested plasma rather than agreeing to a study that might give them a placebo instead.

“For 102 years we’ve been debating whether or not convalescent plasma works,” said Dr. Mila Ortigoza of New York University, referring to plasma’s use in the 1918 flu pandemic. This time around, “we really need indisputable evidence.”

Ortigoza is co-leading one such study, which this week is expanding to three other states — Connecticut, Florida and Texas. Her team also is working to pool data with several other clinical trials in other regions, in hopes of faster answers.

“There’s concern about when there will be a clear answer,” agreed infectious disease specialist Dr. Jeffrey Henderson of Washington University in St. Louis.

He’s hopeful the clinical trials will push forward but said the Mayo report is consistent with smaller, earlier plasma studies and “an example of making the best you can of the data that’s available.”
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during Ebola, we had two deaths under Obama..he shut that shit down quickly.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Another risk of having lots of cases, more chances for it to mutate. This strain if it is verified to be much more infectious, might mean it is more or less virulent or about the same.
Malaysia detects new COVID-19 strain that is 10 times more infectious
 

Jimdamick

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St. Joseph's in Mendham NJ..Sr Thomasina (short little nun with a pinched red face) like to squeeze the back of little boys' necks and the ruler on knuckles.
Sr. Mary Cyril, Sister of Fucking Charity ( Ha ha ha ) used too love to flick my ear lobe with her fingers, especially when it was very cold so she could inflict the most pain.
Brother DeBlaise, a fucking Mad Monk if there ever was one, once took me into the hall & proceeded to choke me because I didn't complete my Latin homework.
Ah, the good old day's when child abuse was rampant in the Catholic church (I was lucky/never was raped)

 

Grandpapy

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Yep, my folks wanted something better me so in third grade they sent me to the local Lutheran School.

I came out of there with a chipped front tooth. Principal was just trying to help me shut up.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Losing Again: Trump's Postal Plot Backfires Amidst Bezos Feud | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC

Pres. Trump’s alleged efforts to subvert the Post Office for his own political agenda go beyond the current scandal over voting by mail. MSNBC’s Ari Melber reports on a long-running feud with billionaire Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos, including incriminating secret White House meetings reported by the Washington Post itself, and why the scandal matters now amidst allegations of election impropriety and the Postmaster General facing Congress, in a new installment of The Beat’s special Backstory series.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Another not so well known fact about covid


Covid-19 Is Creating a Wave of Heart Disease
Emerging data show that some of the coronavirus’s most potent damage is inflicted on the heart.

SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, was initially thought to primarily impact the lungs — SARS stands for “severe acute respiratory syndrome.” Now we know there is barely a part of the body this infection spares. And emerging data show that some of the virus’s most potent damage is inflicted on the heart.

Eduardo Rodriguez was poised to start as the No. 1 pitcher for the Boston Red Sox this season. But in July the 27-year-old tested positive for Covid-19. Feeling “100 years old,” he told reporters: “I’ve never been that sick in my life, and I don’t want to get that sick again.” His symptoms abated, but a few weeks later he felt so tired after throwing about 20 pitches during practice that his team told him to stop and rest.
Further investigation revealed that he had a condition many are still struggling to understand: Covid-19-associated myocarditis. Mr. Rodriguez won’t be playing baseball this season.

Myocarditis means inflammation of the heart muscle. Some patients are never bothered by it, but for others it can have serious implications. And Mr. Rodriguez isn’t the only athlete to suffer from it: Multiple college football players have possibly developed myocarditis from Covid-19, putting the entire college football landscape in jeopardy.

I recently treated one Covid-19 patient in his early 50s. He had been in perfect shape with no history of serious illness. When the fevers and body aches started, he locked himself in his room. But instead of getting better, his condition deteriorated and he eventually accumulated gallons of fluid in his legs. When he came to the hospital unable to catch a breath, it wasn’t his lungs that had pushed him to the brink — it was his heart. Now we are evaluating him to see if he needs a heart transplant.

An intriguing new study from Germany offers a glimpse into how SARS-CoV-2 affects the heart. Researchers studied 100 individuals, with a median age of just 49, who had recovered from Covid-19. Most were asymptomatic or had mild symptoms.

An average of two months after they received the diagnosis, the researchers performed M.R.I. scans of their hearts and made some alarming discoveries: Nearly 80 percent had persistent abnormalities and 60 percent had evidence of myocarditis. The degree of myocarditis was not explained by the severity of the initial illness.


Though the study has some flaws, and the generalizability and significance of its findings not fully known, it makes clear that in young patients who had seemingly overcome SARS-CoV-2 it’s fairly common for the heart to be affected. We may be seeing only the beginning of the damage.
Researchers are still figuring out how SARS-CoV-2 causes myocarditis — whether it’s through the virus directly injuring the heart or whether it’s from the virulent immune reaction that it stimulates. It’s possible that part of the success of immunosuppressant medications such as the steroid dexamethasone in treating sick Covid-19 patients comes from their preventing inflammatory damage to the heart. Such steroids are commonly used to treat cases of myocarditis. Despite treatment, more severe forms of Covid-19-associated myocarditis can lead to permanent damage of the heart — which, in turn, can lead to heart failure.

But myocarditis is not the only way Covid-19 can cause more people to die of heart disease. When I analyzed data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, I found that since February nearly 25,000 more Americans have died of heart disease compared with the same period in previous years. Some of these deaths could be put down to Covid-19, but the majority are likely to be because patients deferred care for their hearts. That could lead to a wave of untreated heart disease in the wake of the pandemic.

Many patients are understandably apprehensive about coming back to the clinic or hospital. The American Heart Association has started a campaign called “Don’t Die of Doubt” to address the alarming reduction in people calling 911 or seeking medical care after a heart attack or stroke.
Since the beginning of the pandemic, it’s been clear that people with heart disease or related conditions such as diabetes or high blood pressure are at increased risk for severe Covid-19 illness. The C.D.C. recommends that the more than 30 million Americans living with heart disease practice extra precautions to avoid infection. Hospitals and clinics should work overtime both to ensure they are safe for patients and to bolster telemedicine services so that patients can be cared for without having to leave their homes.

Doctors and researchers should no longer think of Covid-19 as a disease of the lungs but as one that can affect any part of the body, especially the heart. The only way to prevent more people dying of heart disease, both from damage caused by the virus as well as from deferred care of heart disease, is to control the pandemic.
 

Budzbuddha

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Trump “ presses “ FDA to use “ Plazma “ ( trump’s word ) to show a new therapeutic. Use of plasma antibodies from previous covid patients .


Hospitalized patients who received the plasma within three days of diagnosis, are under the age of 80 and not on mechanical ventilation, benefited the most, with a 35% improvement in survival 30 days after receiving the transfusion compared with patients who got plasma with low antibody levels, according to Dr. Marks.

“We’re confident that convalescent plasma is safe to use in this setting,” Dr. Marks added.

Convalescent plasma has been seen as a way to help people fight the disease and a bridge while other treatments are under development. The emergency-use authorization doesn’t alleviate the need for a vaccine or for therapies known as monoclonal antibodies that could stave off infection or at least reduce the seriousness of one.

Emergency-use authorization waives some regulatory requirements involved in using products during public health emergencies that aren’t yet FDA-approved..... Trump’s NOTHING NEWS to temper his polling free fall.
 
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