Leaves turning black and folding up help please

Byow88

Byow88

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Week 2 of flower leaves look like shit I flushed it with 15 gal of ph’d water the. Fed it with a gallon after flush with cal mag and flower nutes.
Soil ph is
 

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ToFarGone

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Watching because I’m interested in what’s going on. Does not look environmental at least from what I can tell, soil let’s look at your soil and nutes.

1) what soil/ medium are you growing in?

2) what nutes and how much are you feeding?

3) before you flushed did you check runoff and ph? If so what are the values ?
 
calvin.m16

calvin.m16

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Buds are looking good for week 2. I would suspect a PH issue or not enough nutrients with the yellowing etc.. It looks like you're growing in some type of soil blend, I would suggest giving them just water with calmag for a few days and see if they brighten up.
 
Byow88

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ToFarGone said:
Watching because I’m interested in what’s going on. Does not look environmental at least from what I can tell, soil let’s look at your soil and nutes.

1) what soil/ medium are you growing in?

2) what nutes and how much are you feeding?

3) before you flushed did you check runoff and ph? If so what are the values ?
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Soil: 1/3 peat moss 1/3 compost 1/3 Kellogg’s organic potting mix.

nutes: during veg. Dr. Earth pump and grow 1-1-1 every 3 watering. All Ph’d around 6.7 avg. neverover 7
Then flushed after flower stared and stared using Humboldt Secrets flower stacker 0-7-5
And Blue planet Calmag 2-0-0

no I didn’t check run off but I did check soil ph with a soil test kit not probe and it was 6.7 before flush
 
Byow88

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I gave it 5ml cal mag and I believe 4ml of flower stacker with 1 gal of water ph’d to 6.7. I ordered the fox farm nute 3 pack today should be here tomorrow
 
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xtsho

xtsho

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I've used that Pump and Grow and will never use it again. It's just bokashi juice. The bottle I had would overflow and make a mess.

Too much P & K and not enough nitrogen. Look at the yellowing leaves. Plants still need nitrogen in flower. Nitrogen is used for flower development and you're not getting enough with the calmag. I can't find a label for the flower stacker but I'm guessing it doesn't have any micros in it as it's basically just a P & K flower booster with some vitamins in it. You're plant isn't getting a full meal.
 
Byow88

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xtsho said:
I've used that Pump and Grow and will never use it again. It's just bokashi juice. The bottle I had would overflow and make a mess.

Too much P & K and not enough nitrogen. Look at the yellowing leaves. Plants still need nitrogen in flower. Nitrogen is used for flower development and you're not getting enough with the calmag. I can't find a label for the flower stacker but I'm guessing it doesn't have any micros in it as it's basically just a P & K flower booster with some vitamins in it. You're plant isn't getting a full meal.
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Thanks I’ll flush it again tomorrow and use a low dose of tiger bloom
 
myke

myke

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Humis aka compost, ewc.
mix should be approx 1/3 peat 1/3 humis 1/3 perlite.
 
polishpollack

polishpollack

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good grief. when so much is wrong, it will never be right. I don't know where you people get your ideas. bottle feed this, bottle feed that, flush, flush, flush. absurd. You have to find the effective way to grow in potting soil. You can't over control the grow with all the bottles and flushing and expect success. You're going to screw it up. Listening to bad info makes it worse.
 
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xtsho

xtsho

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polishpollack said:
good grief. when so much is wrong, it will never be right. I don't know where you people get your ideas. bottle feed this, bottle feed that, flush, flush, flush. absurd. You have to find the effective way to grow in potting soil. You can't over control the grow with all the bottles and flushing and expect success. You're going to screw it up. Listening to bad info makes it worse.
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I wasn't trying to provide bad info. I was just commenting on the feeding regimen that was devoid of nitrogen and micronutrients. And you're 100% correct about flushing. All it does is deplete soil further. 15 gallons of flushing in that size pot is ridiculous. At this point might as well be growing in shredded cardboard and sand. I don't know how the OP would think flushing is the correct action based off of my comment. I said the plant wasn't getting a full meal. Why that would equate to flushing I have no idea.
 
Wattzzup

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xtsho said:
I wasn't trying to provide bad info. I was just commenting on the feeding regimen that was devoid of nitrogen and micronutrients. And you're 100% correct about flushing. All it does is deplete soil further. 15 gallons of flushing in that size pot is ridiculous. At this point might as well be growing in shredded cardboard and sand. I don't know how the OP would think flushing is the correct action based off of my comment. I said the plant wasn't getting a full meal. Why that would equate to flushing I have no idea.
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Flushing seems to be the go to move on this site. That and suggesting Cal mag.
 
polishpollack

polishpollack

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It's not just on this site that bad info happens. It seems to be taking place among people in conversation as well as the web. They come here as new users saying they're flushing and using calmag and whatever else that's wrong. I'm tired of reading this stuff, but trying to help others keeps me coming back. I really should get a different hobby.
 
ToFarGone

ToFarGone

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polishpollack said:
It's not just on this site that bad info happens. It seems to be taking place among people in conversation as well as the web. They come here as new users saying they're flushing and using calmag and whatever else that's wrong. I'm tired of reading this stuff, but trying to help others keeps me coming back. I really should get a different hobby.
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you have critiqued other peoples posts twice now saying “bad information”. But do you have any good information to help this fellow grower out? Whats his problem and how does he fix it?
 
Byow88

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myke said:
Ok i re read,15 gal.So your plants now are saying ,I cant breath ,heard that before not sure where.
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It’s in a 7 gallon pot with good drainage and will be almost dry tomorrow so ‍♂ Everything says to flush 3x the amount of the pot so I did 15 gal. Only 2/3 of what’s recommended
 
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