Club Vert LED

[ttystikk]

4x4x7'8" tent, 30 gallon fabric pot. Lighting is an HLG 600RSpec copy ( I DIY'd it from all HLG parts ) that will run at 480watts, it produces about 1100PPFD at this power level. I'll probably dial it back a bit, I don't want to run CO2.I have a 4'x5' section of handy panel, simialr to a cattle panel, I'll hang as a trellis. Medium will be soil fed Megacrop as I've been working with this combination for a couple years now and it works well. I'm undecided on what strain to try on my first attempt.

So are you just going to grow on one wall of the tent? I'm trying to visualise.

 

[pop22]

Yes as a starter, one wall. I want to keep it simple till I get a handle on it.

So are you just going to grow on one wall of the tent? I'm trying to visualise.

 

[ttystikk]

Yes as a starter, one wall. I want to keep it simple till I get a handle on it.

Ok so at first blush, I'm running the calculation of trellis area vs light output and I'm thinking you'll want at least 480W if not closer to the full 600W. 600W divided by 4x5ft²=20ft² is 30W/ft² which is a good number for high efficiency LED.

You may want to put a dimmer on it and mount it so you can move the light to be closer to the plant at first, them further as it gets bigger and you turn up the power.

I suggest looking at sativa dominant strains so your plant will grow and stretch to fill in all that surface area.

Because of the veg time required, you may want to start a second plant well before the first one even blooms because it can take a few months to grow the plant big enough to do such a trellis justice.

A thirty gallon pot is if anything overkill; I was growing 6' tall plants yielding as much as 27oz using 5 gallon buckets!

While CO2 would help things grow faster it isn't necessary. Another idea is to look into triacontanol, a plant growth regulator found in most plants, especially alfalfa. Unlike most PGRs, it's not harmful and can really accelerate growth in veg and early bloom.

You'll want to keep temps in the tent in the mid 80s for best growth; plants like it warmer when using LED light because they emit much less infrared. This is why LED lights are more efficient than high intensity discharge lighting.

Folks also report that their plants want more calcium and magnesium under LED lights. I've found that higher nutrient levels in general work out well.

Hang your panel with a 6" gap behind it for good air flow to avoid mildew issues.

For the first part of the plant's life, you really want to light it from above because plants are phototropic; they grow towards the light source. Only when it has filled in most of the trellis will you want to hang the light vertically in front of the trellis, likely when you're ready to flip to bloom. Don't worry about the bottom of the plant getting inadequate lighting; the tent will reflect plenty onto the lower branches.

That should get you started! Link me to your thread and I'll help out as you go along.

 

[pop22]

Thank you! I've been growing with LEd for a few years now. The light I have is mounted in a way that I can change to vertical easily and quickly. It hangs from 4 rope ratchets. I can simply disconnect two of them. I keep the temp around 80F as a rule. will tag you when I get started. I have a test grow for a seed company first then the tents are free again.

here's my light. 4 Diablo boards. Each board has 648 LEDs. @400 watts this light is putting out about 1100PPFD. The 630 watt version HLG sells puts out 1770 PPFD! That's sphere tested data!

Ok so at first blush, I'm running the calculation of trellis area vs light output and I'm thinking you'll want at least 480W if not closer to the full 600W. 600W divided by 4x5ft²=20ft² is 30W/ft² which is a good number for high efficiency LED.

You may want to put a dimmer on it and mount it so you can move the light to be closer to the plant at first, them further as it gets bigger and you turn up the power.

I suggest looking at sativa dominant strains so your plant will grow and stretch to fill in all that surface area.

Because of the veg time required, you may want to start a second plant well before the first one even blooms because it can take a few months to grow the plant big enough to do such a trellis justice.

A thirty gallon pot is if anything overkill; I was growing 6' tall plants yielding as much as 27oz using 5 gallon buckets!

While CO2 would help things grow faster it isn't necessary. Another idea is to look into triacontanol, a plant growth regulator found in most plants, especially alfalfa. Unlike most PGRs, it's not harmful and can really accelerate growth in veg and early bloom.

You'll want to keep temps in the tent in the mid 80s for best growth; plants like it warmer when using LED light because they emit much less infrared. This is why LED lights are more efficient than high intensity discharge lighting.

Folks also report that their plants want more calcium and magnesium under LED lights. I've found that higher nutrient levels in general work out well.

Hang your panel with a 6" gap behind it for good air flow to avoid mildew issues.

For the first part of the plant's life, you really want to light it from above because plants are phototropic; they grow towards the light source. Only when it has filled in most of the trellis will you want to hang the light vertically in front of the trellis, likely when you're ready to flip to bloom. Don't worry about the bottom of the plant getting inadequate lighting; the tent will reflect plenty onto the lower branches.

That should get you started! Link me to your thread and I'll help out as you go along.

 

[ttystikk]

Thank you! I've been growing with LEd for a few years now. The light I have is mounted in a way that I can change to vertical easily and quickly. It hangs from 4 rope ratchets. I can simply disconnect two of them. I keep the temp around 80F as a rule. will tag you when I get started. I have a test grow for a seed company first then the tents are free again.

here's my light. 4 Diablo boards. Each board has 648 LEDs. @400 watts this light is putting out about 1100PPFD. The 630 watt version HLG sells puts out 1770 PPFD! That's sphere tested data!



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That's awesome! You'll need it all for 20ft².

 

[HydroKid239]

This was grown in front of an over/under pair of 860W CDM Allstart lamps- but still on a flat trellis;
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That's a HUGE bitch!

 

[ttystikk]

That's a HUGE bitch!

I was pulling between 26-30 zips of finished goods per plant at the time, that one was right in there.

 

[Barristan Whitebeard]

here's my light. 4 Diablo boards. Each board has 648 LEDs. @400 watts this light is putting out about 1100PPFD. The 630 watt version HLG sells puts out 1770 PPFD! That's sphere tested data!

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Hey @pop22 , your Diablo boards actually have 666 LEDs per board. 648 Samsung LM301H and 18 LH351H 660nm diodes.

In a previous post you said your light is a HLG 600 Rspec copy. The HLG 600 Rspec uses four QB288 V2 Rspec boards. Your light looks to be a copy of the HLG 650R.

 

[pop22]

it's a mix, the heatsink is from a 600R that I DIY'd myself. I managed to get the heatsink from HLG.

Hey @pop22 , your Diablo boards actually have 666 LEDs per board. 648 Samsung LM301H and 18 LH351H 660nm diodes.

In a previous post you said your light is a HLG 600 Rspec copy. The HLG 600 Rspec uses four QB288 V2 Rspec boards. Your light looks to be a copy of the HLG 650R.

 

[eyderbuddy]

Hey verties!

Has anybody done a vertical run in a closet? Do you guys think i can run a vertical (using strips) in a 2 ft closet?

It's 6ft tall, 8 ft wide and 2ft deep

I know i'd basically have about 1.5ft of space to run the plants without burning them, but i'm wondering if there's anybody with experience on the matter

 

[ttystikk]

Hey verties!

Has anybody done a vertical run in a closet? Do you guys think i can run a vertical (using strips) in a 2 ft closet?

It's 6ft tall, 8 ft wide and 2ft deep

I know i'd basically have about 1.5ft of space to run the plants without burning them, but i'm wondering if there's anybody with experience on the matter

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work as long as you meet the basics of ventilation and temperature.

 

[eyderbuddy]

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work as long as you meet the basics of ventilation and temperature.

awesome!

what space do you gents usually have between the plants and the lights? ill be using strips so i can run them closer than cobs for sure

 

[ttystikk]

awesome!

what space do you gents usually have between the plants and the lights? ill be using strips so i can run them closer than cobs for sure

Whatever works. There are too many variables to give a definitive answer to this.

 

[pop22]

So I did some thinking and as my goal is not mass production, but top quality and a good amount of bud too, I'm going to use that 30 gallon pot and do it organic. Working with my veggie raised beds, I've got a good handle on organic, although, indoors I grow manufactured nutrients and organic as the whim strikes me. Winter is coming.... and I'll be bored lol so this would help keep me busy.