Freezing pollen?

[CannaOnerStar]

I've used this pollen at least 6x, in out, in out, of the freezer

100% success rate in over 18mo

I'm not saying flour dosent work, but I have personally used both over the last 5+ years and rice is much more viable, long and short term period.

So you are saying that when you mixed some flour with the pollen, it went bad because of it? What flours were you using, how much did you mix with them and are you 100% sure there were no other factors?

I havent heard people saying they had problems with it.

 

[xtsho]

I've used this pollen at least 6x, in out, in out, of the freezer

100% success rate in over 18mo

I'm not saying flour dosent work, but I have personally used both over the last 5+ years and rice is much more viable, long and short term period.

You said people were spreading false information. That was not the case. Flour is a well accepted method for storing pollen long term.

I didn't come here to argue with you but you basically called me a liar and then went on to actually spread false information about flour not working. It does which is why it's so widely used.

Yes I know links from the interweb. It's all a big plot to get people to store pollen with flour and ruin their pollen.


For a pollen carrier, heat about 2 or 3 teaspoons of flour in an oven to 180F for about 20 mins or in a small pot set on low heat, let it cool *thoroughly*, and mix with the pollen to dilute it. I use a ratio of about 1/4 tsp pollen to 3 tsp flour and have very successful pollination rates. Store in small containers like contact lens cases excluding as much air as possible and store in the fridge for long term storage. Remember, it only takes one male to fertilize one female ovule, and there are millions of pollen cells in a 1/4 tsp of pollen so be sure and dilute it.

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Uncle Bens pollination method

Uncle Ben's Pollination Method

You have several choices for collecting and using pollen. Males will show as a football-like "ball" on a small, short petiole (stem) at the node sites. Once the pollen pods form, they will elongate via a stem, droop, and the flower bracts will open. After about one week after pollen pods first...

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Collecting pollen is a bit like milking a gnat, when you manually roll a pod and it falls it may be a million grains but its is barley visible to the eye it also tends to stick to the wax paper but the solution is to mix in some dry flour. I used a ratio of about 5 to 1 and ended up with a yellow looking mix that resembled cake batter. I allowed the flour to dry well and microwaving wouldn’t be bad idea to remove any moisture that might remain in the flour.

Diluting one part pollen with ten to one hundred parts flour is common.

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A common tactic to prevent moisture damage is mixing pollen with equal parts of flour,

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Moisture is a death sentence for pollen viability. Because of this, many breeders opt to mix flour into their pollen at a ratio of 4:1 (flour to pollen) when storing it long-term.

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Prepare the Flour
Measure the amount of pollen you have, a close estimate is fine. Measure 50 times the pollen volume in flour and put the flour in the skillet. Heat the flour over medium heat until browned. Set it aside to cool completely. In a high humidity area? Seal the flour in an airtight, glass container and set it aside as it cools. This will prevent the flour from re-absorbing moisture as it cools.

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[BobThe420Builder]

Flour thins out the pollen.... PERIOD

Thus viability is diminished


If you haven't actually tried flour vs rice over years of use and testing, posting links means nothing


Should we debate flat earth next... Same thing practical knowledge vs links mean nothing

The earth is flat

 

[xtsho]

K.I.S.S.
I just press a nice pinch of pollen onto cellophane, remove any other vegetable matter and press it so no air sticks around. Then I just Tape it up with masking tape, label it, and into the freezer it goes. No flour, no rice. And months later, it still pollinates sucessfully.

I typically use the KISS method for everything cannabis related. But when I have spent years working on crosses I'm not trusting F5 generation pollen that was years in the making to just being wrapped in cellophane and taped up. It is not as reliable as sealing it up with desiccant in an airtight tube and then vacuum packing that tube before placing it in the freezer.

Plus it isn't that complicated. mix pollen, put in airtight tube, vacuum pack. Done.

I'm not just storing pollen from any male. I'm storing pollen from males of strains I've been working on for years. After all that work a little extra is worth it.

 

[xtsho]

Flour thins out the pollen.... PERIOD

Thus viability is diminished


If you haven't actually tried flour vs rice over years of use and testing, posting links means nothing


Should we debate flat earth next... Same thing practical knowledge vs links mean nothing

The earth is flat

Yes flour thins out the pollen. Nobody said it didn't. But that has nothing to do with viability. Some use it to extend the pollen when they apply it. You only need 1 grain of pollen per pistil. It's a practice that is used all across the horticulture industry and has been for years.

But what is it? First you call people liars, then you say flour works, and now your saying it diminishes viability.

Anyway, I've proven my point. And that was that I'm not a liar spreading false information. I've provided plenty of information to back up the use of flour.

Anyway, I'm done with this sidetrack. The only reason I went down it is being called a liar is one of the few things that sets me off and in your case I've been extremely nice about it.

Have a nice day.

 

[CannaOnerStar]

Flour thins out the pollen.... PERIOD

Thus viability is diminished


If you haven't actually tried flour vs rice over years of use and testing, posting links means nothing


Should we debate flat earth next... Same thing practical knowledge vs links mean nothing

The earth is flat

It doesent matter much even if only 1 out of 100 pollens stays alive. There are so many of them that they can pollinate just as good even if you thin it out that 30-50%. There are likely thousands of pollen specs hitting every hair, if half of that is flour, the plant doesent notice difference, since it doesent need many viable specs of pollen to get pregnant and the flour does not disturb the getting pregnant part. Flours help to keep more pollen specs viable by sucking some moisture inside them(instead letting the moisture kill pollen) and protecting the pollen that way.

You just say that you have experience, but you dont answer my question what your experience even was and how did you go about it etc. Sorry, but currently your opinion only seems like a failure at your end and you not wanting to tell us what you did and how, just makes it look like you dont want us to evaluate whether it was you who failed or the flours that failed you. And you are the one who sounds like a flat earther here, with the exception that they at least try before failing and not just say that earth is flat, PERIOD!

 

[xtsho]

Lets all just chill out myself included. This is the Advanced section we should be discussing topics not cluttering up the thread. I should have just let the false claim comment go and moved on.

 

[BobThe420Builder]

So you are saying that when you mixed some flour with the pollen, it went bad because of it? What flours were you using, how much did you mix with them and are you 100% sure there were no other factors?

I havent heard people saying they had problems with it.

I've had very sparse results using floured pollen

Do a entire branch, but limited results

Same time, same pollen in rice, 100% results on same plant, different branch

So I know flour limits the results on a pollination tests ive done

Edit

Not that it went bad, just results are way less than acceptable than with rice

 

[CannaOnerStar]

I've had very sparse results using floured pollen

Do a entire branch, but limited results

Same time, same pollen in rice, 100% results on same plant, different branch

So I know flour limits the results on a pollination tests ive done

Edit

Not that it went bad, just results are way less than acceptable than with rice

What flours did you use, how much did you mix in, did you only try this once, did you harvest and store and use it exactly the same way as always, and how do you pollinate the plants?

 

[BobThe420Builder]

Regular flour, unbleached..dried but not baked
Not a lot mixed in, enough I'd think to keep it dry and stable.
I always harvest the same way since day one

Used it a few times with same results, and never an issue with rice

Always apply with a small hobby paint brush

 

[CannaOnerStar]

Regular flour, unbleached..dried but not baked
Not a lot mixed in, enough I'd think to keep it dry and stable.
I always harvest the same way since day one

Used it a few times with same results, and never an issue with rice

Always apply with a small hobby paint brush

Well the regular flour thing might be the issue. I havent heard people recommend that, but apparently scientists can make it work by baking it.

You should use this instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_starch or something similar to that. It does not need to be baked.

Or not use anything mixed in if that works for you.

 

[BobThe420Builder]

I'll stick with rice...has always been fantastic for me

Never had good results with the flour

Ain't broke, don't fix it

 

[blueberryrose]

I'll stick with rice...has always been fantastic for me

Never had good results with the flour

Ain't broke, don't fix it

I'm on your side. Rice sounds good. Next time I actually need to store pollen a long time (and its rare that I do) I'll put a few rice grains into a little plastic vial (the kind that some folk ship seeds in ) and vacuum pack that.
Otherwise I'd rather just pop a bunch of beans from the last generation and find another good male to run with.
cheers