redeye517
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Still have a whole pack vintage2013
bodhi seeds
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AdvancedBuffalo
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Like 4 pages of discussion on light cycle and not a single mention of DLI. Come on!!
DLI is your daily light integral. Put simply, it’s the total amount of light that your plants are exposed to in a single day. Plants will have a specific DLI that they can handle based on genetics, environment, CO2 levels, etc.
No specific light cycle will save energy compared to another if the plants DLI is capped at a specific amount. Which it is. In veg I shoot for a DLI of about 40. I can get that with 600umol at 18/6. If I wanted to hit a DLI of 40 at 24 hours of light I would want them dimmed to 460umol. Both will give me the same DLI of 40.
I’m not entirely convinced that root growth is hindered in 24 hours of light. There are so many other variables at play. Environment and irrigation cycles can stimulate root growth more than light cycle. You can easily steer plants towards vegetative development with high frequency fertigation, proper deybacks over night, and VPD.
On top of all of that, root development is extremely high during the first weeks of flower when bud set occurs. If the plants are grown properly during stretch, you should be able to fill out a final 3-5 gallon container by week 4 of flower even if you transplanted from a solo cup on day of flip.
There are many ways to achieve the same result.
DLI is your daily light integral. Put simply, it’s the total amount of light that your plants are exposed to in a single day. Plants will have a specific DLI that they can handle based on genetics, environment, CO2 levels, etc.
No specific light cycle will save energy compared to another if the plants DLI is capped at a specific amount. Which it is. In veg I shoot for a DLI of about 40. I can get that with 600umol at 18/6. If I wanted to hit a DLI of 40 at 24 hours of light I would want them dimmed to 460umol. Both will give me the same DLI of 40.
I’m not entirely convinced that root growth is hindered in 24 hours of light. There are so many other variables at play. Environment and irrigation cycles can stimulate root growth more than light cycle. You can easily steer plants towards vegetative development with high frequency fertigation, proper deybacks over night, and VPD.
On top of all of that, root development is extremely high during the first weeks of flower when bud set occurs. If the plants are grown properly during stretch, you should be able to fill out a final 3-5 gallon container by week 4 of flower even if you transplanted from a solo cup on day of flip.
There are many ways to achieve the same result.
colocowboy
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I have seen that kind of root stimulation before, pretty regularly if your root zone has many alive and healthy microbes. When everything is right you could fill a 3-5 gallon with roots in a week!
I don’t think it harms them per se but 24 hour light seems to stress them out a little bit. They have a happier vibe after a nap imho. Totally a preferential point I think but it’s fun to philosophize!
I don’t think it harms them per se but 24 hour light seems to stress them out a little bit. They have a happier vibe after a nap imho. Totally a preferential point I think but it’s fun to philosophize!
Nutbag Poster
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To bring the light cycle discussion back home to the original Bodhi topic...we had a plant or two of Black Light Fantasy that exploded in balls under non-stop light. Black Light Fantasy seems to have given her personal opinion on the matter. Other strains may be fine with it, but if you're growing BLF, maybe 24-0 isn't wise. It's something to consider if someone is reporting that a strain "herms". Maybe they're not growing it under the conditions that it was tested in. Are breeders testing for stability at 24 hours of continuous light? I doubt it.
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AdvancedBuffalo
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I like 18/6 because It allows natural drybacks. Feed from hour 3 until hour 15, then have a solid 12 hour dryback to stimulate root development and improve node spacing.
That, and the dark period keeps me from working in the rooms at absurd hours. Forces me to take breaks and keep a healthy sleep schedule which is kinda important.
18/6 will be used in here!
That, and the dark period keeps me from working in the rooms at absurd hours. Forces me to take breaks and keep a healthy sleep schedule which is kinda important.
18/6 will be used in here!
Growitpondifarm
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Looks clean, what are you using for veg lighting in this setup?
dakilla187
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Hey same thing happened to me, wow!!! Guess i better set that timer up cause i want some of that mendo purps.....They did sex for me hella fast though
Nutbag Poster
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Ha... I made that confusing. I meant "we" as in the Bodhi thread, which kinda meant you as it turns out. I forgot exactly which member had the situation that kicked off the light cycle discussion. Hope you get some great results from the BLF despite the weird behavior of those plants... I've been kinda regretting not grabbing a pack when it came around.
The new Pu crosses in the last drop were probably as good if not better in my opinion
Diesel0889
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Well... all this light talk i have a question. I was planning on running 2 digital greenhouse 315cmh over my 4x4 when my room is done as I cant afford another led right now. My fluence and hlg 600h will run over my 4x8 bed.
Question is to those who may run a de 1000 or 750, or even hps in general. (This is in my flower room). I have 7' or just over maybe 7.5' ceiling SO as bad as I want another de 1000 like when I had 10' in old house I think i may be pushing my luck... And imo a se1000 is less efficient than say (2) 315cmh. Am I making the right choice? Don't get me wrong I DO know my lights but still want opinions none the less. I like chatting with the bodhi family!
Sneak peek at flower space. Cant see the whole thing but you get the idea. Fyi the only reason I DONT WANT 2 315 is it will take up 2 slots on my 4 light controler! This is part of my dilemma . My veg room is on separate power. Enough for 2 315 cmh and 6" inline etc. Here is the corner (4x
bed area. 3rd coat went down last night.
My bodhi and inkognyto babies are also popping back from mad to happy after moving to #7 pots to buy me time to finish flower room. Don't mind the cord mess lol.. safe but not done obviously! Front right sits a dla 10 with nice structure and a shade lighter green than the rest..
Happy growing! I hope you are all well and safe!
Question is to those who may run a de 1000 or 750, or even hps in general. (This is in my flower room). I have 7' or just over maybe 7.5' ceiling SO as bad as I want another de 1000 like when I had 10' in old house I think i may be pushing my luck... And imo a se1000 is less efficient than say (2) 315cmh. Am I making the right choice? Don't get me wrong I DO know my lights but still want opinions none the less. I like chatting with the bodhi family!
Sneak peek at flower space. Cant see the whole thing but you get the idea. Fyi the only reason I DONT WANT 2 315 is it will take up 2 slots on my 4 light controler! This is part of my dilemma . My veg room is on separate power. Enough for 2 315 cmh and 6" inline etc. Here is the corner (4x
bed area. 3rd coat went down last night. My bodhi and inkognyto babies are also popping back from mad to happy after moving to #7 pots to buy me time to finish flower room. Don't mind the cord mess lol.. safe but not done obviously! Front right sits a dla 10 with nice structure and a shade lighter green than the rest..
Happy growing! I hope you are all well and safe!
AdvancedBuffalo
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Looks great! I like the idea of 2x CMH over a single 1k DE HPS. How does your light controller work? Does it work via the plugs for the lights, or is it controlled via a dimming wire from the ballasts?Well... all this light talk i have a question. I was planning on running 2 digital greenhouse 315cmh over my 4x4 when my room is done as I cant afford another led right now. My fluence and hlg 600h will run over my 4x8 bed.
Question is to those who may run a de 1000 or 750, or even hps in general. (This is in my flower room). I have 7' or just over maybe 7.5' ceiling SO as bad as I want another de 1000 like when I had 10' in old house I think i may be pushing my luck... And imo a se1000 is less efficient than say (2) 315cmh. Am I making the right choice? Don't get me wrong I DO know my lights but still want opinions none the less. I like chatting with the bodhi family!
Sneak peek at flower space. Cant see the whole thing but you get the idea. Fyi the only reason I DONT WANT 2 315 is it will take up 2 slots on my 4 light controler! This is part of my dilemma . My veg room is on separate power. Enough for 2 315 cmh and 6" inline etc. Here is the corner (4x
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My bodhi and inkognyto babies are also popping back from mad to happy after moving to #7 pots to buy me time to finish flower room. Don't mind the cord mess lol.. safe but not done obviously! Front right sits a dla 10 with nice structure and a shade lighter green than the rest..
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Happy growing! I hope you are all well and safe!
If it’s just plugs you could run a splitter. If its via a dimming wire you should be able to run them in parallel, regardless of if they are resistance or 0-10v dimmed. The controller should adapt to whatever you wire in parallel.
Diesel0889
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Its a autopilot 4 light controler (4000 watts) and yes its plug. I suppose I could run a splitter safe since it is only 800 watts or less. These ones have a turbo mode like 380 over the normal 315. The digital green house 315 are cheap, etl listed and kick ass. Had mine WITH THE SAME BULB for prob 2.5-3 years give or take and it has not skipped a beat. Good choice on a budget imo. Kick ass light. I feel I can say that as i have all the high end goodies as well and they still preform great when compared to my led. Id suggest them to anyone.
Love your set up as well. Looks very nice and thought out..
Happy growing!
Nutbag Poster
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That's good to hear... I compensated for missing out on BLF by buying a pack of Mendo Sunshine and Purple NL2 this last time around. I've never done much with purples and figured I'd let Bodhi introduce me. I really like the sound of those two I scored.
The NL cross seemed in high demand but ive never been a northern lights fan. Went with the cherry and mothers milk Pu crosses and strawberry headband. Pretty sure that mendo sunshine will be some amazing smoke but probably short or to short for my setup.
_mahavishnu
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Any thoughts on the Baba Kush? I know SSDD bad some really mixed experiences on here with weird growth and instability, but the good plants sure did look amazing. I wonder if the bubba will stabilize it. Still just sitting on my single pack of Herer Hashplant, definitely tempted to get more Bodhi gear. God forbid the pack I have turns out all male LOL
Nutbag Poster
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I've never come across northern lights I've loved either but I likely haven't seen the best of it. A lot of the breeders who ought to know seem plenty interested in the individual NL parts so I'm dipping my toes into the Northern Lights pool for the first time too. I like the idea that the NL2 genes are OLD and pretty uncluttered/pure-ish. Seemed like it might be a strong base for what the Purple Unicorn has to offer.
Seems like the Baba Kush ought to be a good one. I'm guessing it might bring out more of the Bubbashine side of the SSDD with a little less of the chemmy/Appy part.
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HaroldRocks
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I grabbed a pack - i think that SSDD male is great so far and that might be a great cross to work with - you got bubba on both sides with those parents too - im really looking forward to that pack
the ssdd seems stable on my sunshinehead. it does need support but its top notch smoke
_mahavishnu
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I need to do some more research on the SSDD lineage, I’ve been so wrapped up learning about the HP male and his kids because it directly applies to my pack. Might have to grab a pack of Baba and let it educate me since you all seem encouraging on it 