The First 2020 Presidential Debate

Who won?

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hanimmal

hanimmal

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Biden by a mile. Trump just ejaculated his sputum to the masses the entire time and demonstrated time and again he has not clue what he is doing outside of being a troll and fleecing our coffers.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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Thinking a couple minutes more, I still stick with Biden. Because which senators do you think are going to have a harder time in their elections after last night? I think it hurts the Republican senators more than Democratic ones.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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hanimmal said:
Thinking a couple minutes more, I still stick with Biden. Because which senators do you think are going to have a harder time in their elections after last night? I think it hurts the Republican senators more than Democratic ones.
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"thoughts and prayers"
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Yeah, Biden edged him out by appearing reasonable and moderate in contrast to how Trimp has portrayed him - but I really wanted him to be more forceful. I know Trimp's constant barrage of nonsense probably threw him off his game but not enough.

Trimp wasn't trying to win new voters and he certainly didn't. This was about suppressing the vote by turning the whole thing into a circus, which he was partially successful in doing - but mostly about shoring his support up for his end game of using armed radicals to keep him in power after losing the election.
 
SpawnOfShulgin

SpawnOfShulgin

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Both of them looked bad, but Trump always looks bad so thats just buisness as usual for him.

Biden choked on healthcare, he had an opportunity to call for single payer ( what much of his base wants) and he instead just tried to double down on the ACA expansions. He also refused to answer questions about support from law enforcement.

Not to mention his whole 'I AM THE PARTY NOW' tangent that again, kinda is an insult to the progressives driving his whole campaign.

For what it's worth, i despise them both. But theres no question who won.
 
CunningCanuk

CunningCanuk

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Unclebaldrick said:
I didn't want to bump this because @Jimdamick has a good thread going. But I want the poll results.

I should have put an option for those notorious sodomites "The Proud Boys" in, because they were the real winners.
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I thought this thread was a joke because you posted it a few hours before the debate.

Biden did a pretty good job under the circumstances. It must be hard to focus with an idiot yelling in your ear.

I don’t think Biden should do anymore debates they will be nothing more than nationally televised trump rallies.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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SpawnOfShulgin said:
Both of them looked bad, but Trump always looks bad so thats just buisness as usual for him.

Biden choked on healthcare, he had an opportunity to call for single payer ( what much of his base wants) and he instead just tried to double down on the ACA expansions. He also refused to answer questions about support from law enforcement.

Not to mention his whole 'I AM THE PARTY NOW' tangent that again, kinda is an insult to the progressives driving his whole campaign.

For what it's worth, i despise them both. But theres no question who won.
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If Biden did that he would have lost the Red state senate seats the Democrats are close to winning allowing Democrats to actually get people appointed to fix the messes that the idiot's that Trump named as 'acting-(insert highly important national leadership role here)' made.

I personally am not a fan of 'medicare for all' because we don't want anything important too much in the hands of any politician. There is a very important role that American citizens who work in our private industries provide as a check to the political whims of would be dictators.

I could see there being some scenario where Trump could appoint trolls in those upper level positions and destroy it similar to what he is trying in many of our public works (like the post office). It would be far easier for Biden to pass legislation to do what the ACA/Obamacare was meant to do and cover 100% of our population with affordable healthcare insurance that allows people to get the healthcare they need at their discretion.

And it is not a 'insult' to anyone in the party, no matter how much Trump and his minions hope that people think it does (because they said so). For this next 4 years (or until the election if Biden loses), Biden would be the president.

His moderate 'fix the fires' Trump caused, and rebuild the world (and American economy Trump messed up with all his trade wars and shutdowns) and pass some meaningful legislation we all want and need, and then retire and let the Democratic party compete for what the next 8 years gets to look like. It is more important to win the House and Senate in 2022 than anything else.

In the last 50 years Democrats have only had 6 years total to get anything done, and in every single Democratics first term they had to deal with the effects of a Republican policy led recession. The Democrats need to keep their eye on the ball and not just win this election, but win the next 3. Only then do I think the Republicans will have gotten over their downfall since too many in office ran with the 'Southern Strategy'.
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captainmorgan

captainmorgan

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I think tRUmp has accomplished his goal of fucking this country in the ass, dry. The slow motion crash edges forward day by day, so slowly that most don't see it coming. I live in one of the most affluent counties in the country and 25% of the small businesses here have closed permanently so far. The stock market is being propped up by bailout money and many people are barely hanging on with unemployment and relief money. When the music stops it will be catastrophic and most don't have a clue it's coming.
 
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Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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This is why I wanted the poll. Three votes for Trump=Three sock puppet accounts set up this summer.

You aren't very good at this.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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SpawnOfShulgin said:
Both of them looked bad, but Trump always looks bad so thats just buisness as usual for him.

Biden choked on healthcare, he had an opportunity to call for single payer ( what much of his base wants) and he instead just tried to double down on the ACA expansions. He also refused to answer questions about support from law enforcement.

Not to mention his whole 'I AM THE PARTY NOW' tangent that again, kinda is an insult to the progressives driving his whole campaign.

For what it's worth, i despise them both. But theres no question who won.
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"Both are bad" is such a tired old propaganda line.

There is a choice to be made and the differences between the two could not have been made more clear last night.
 
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