Useful Seeds

Useful Seeds

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The bananna OG x Bag of oranges?
Yep.

So I can't speak for Useful obviously but to answer your question of why people get excited about crosses without knowing if they will produce consistent results there's a variety of reasons but they mostly revolve around changing goals in cultivation culture.

These days there are far more hobby growers trying to find “their own thing", so personal phenohunting has become far more prevalent. But there's no point in phenohunting through a well established strain. It's like buying a lottery ticket where the best you could do is win your money back. When a breeder takes a pair of rare or elite strains and crosses them it creates this idea that the grower could find something "special".

Obviously not everyone is interested in this approach. Some people want consistency from the seeds they purchase... others will accept inconsistency if they think they have a chance of winning that lottery.

Add in good marketing and the internet fueled hype machine and you have the world of smashing strains named after desserts together to sell $200 packs of seeds.

Personally I like that we have the option to choose our own paths. If I'm growing for my head stash I want consistency, but if I want to start a new chucking project it's nice to have a variety of phenotypes to choose from.

What I will say about Useful is he tends to use his favorite cuts and males over and over again for a reason. His lines have been very consistent for me. Combined with most of them being fems his gear has been a go too to keep the stash filled when I'm messing around with less stable gear on the side. I know even if I drop just one bean from Useful I'm going to get a high quality result.
You are too kind, thank you. Myself, I prefer diversity. That's why I make f2's 3's 4's of lines so that I can hunt what I consider a treasure chest of possibilities. I'm always looking for that special one to add to the line up. I also understand folks looking for uniformity, I get it. To each his own kinda thing. On a side note, I had some really rugged times there for a bit, that DAMN tree, really set me back, along with personal losses, but we keep on keeping on. My boat is a little bigger now, and I will be able to add a little more diversity to my line up. And I must say again ,I really appreciate the continued support, and the way you all keep the thread going while sharing info and lending a hand to one another. That's the good stuff.

Say it now because ya never know.

Your friend
Useful
 

Boosky

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After having grown the Blackjack x Chocolate Diesel, i am excited to say say that I have got my hands on some Blackened Oranges. After all, it was the first one Useful recommended for me but the wife doesn't care too much for Orange flavors. But I got it anyway, hahahahahahah. Will be in the next lineup along with Chocolate Diesel S1, HAOG, Raspberries n Chocolate, ECSD and a ten pack of Lucky Lime, here starts the pheno hunt. I have a feeling I will probably find one we're happy with in the first ten I drop.
 

Rottedroots

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So I can't speak for Useful obviously but to answer your question of why people get excited about crosses without knowing if they will produce consistent results there's a variety of reasons but they mostly revolve around changing goals in cultivation culture.

These days there are far more hobby growers trying to find “their own thing", so personal phenohunting has become far more prevalent. But there's no point in phenohunting through a well established strain. It's like buying a lottery ticket where the best you could do is win your money back. When a breeder takes a pair of rare or elite strains and crosses them it creates this idea that the grower could find something "special".

Obviously not everyone is interested in this approach. Some people want consistency from the seeds they purchase... others will accept inconsistency if they think they have a chance of winning that lottery.

Add in good marketing and the internet fueled hype machine and you have the world of smashing strains named after desserts together to sell $200 packs of seeds.

Personally I like that we have the option to choose our own paths. If I'm growing for my head stash I want consistency, but if I want to start a new chucking project it's nice to have a variety of phenotypes to choose from.

What I will say about Useful is he tends to use his favorite cuts and males over and over again for a reason. His lines have been very consistent for me. Combined with most of them being fems his gear has been a go too to keep the stash filled when I'm messing around with less stable gear on the side. I know even if I drop just one bean from Useful I'm going to get a high quality result.
Great answer to my question. I do generally run things that I know how they act and how consistent they are but I also understand the excitement around finding something cool. I'm starting up a run under 1200 watts of 3590s but I also have a secondary 300 watts in a separate space so I think I going to try treasure hunting some Phenos of an f2 or f3 just to see what happens but I really enjoy an f1 and a bit of hybrid vigor. When your growing for your head I find I can't consume everything I had up. That alone will give me space to try the newest shit.
I stated I was growing SKand NL back in 82 or so. Is that not possible or am I a couple years to early to be correct. I sure would like to check out a couple issues of "Sensimilla Tips" just to see if things have changed.
Rock on and may your next run be a smoker.
 

Cboat38

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Up first for smoke test is chem boo,after 2 week dry and a week cure smells like cat piss dipped in OJ. Still super sticky, after a couple of tokes.....taste is piney and with the orange lingering on exhale very lung expanding. So far pretty good 803F47C7-553D-434A-93FD-0066E3E3DD57.jpegjust gotta measure the high.
 

Southside112

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Up first for smoke test is chem boo,after 2 week dry and a week cure smells like cat piss dipped in OJ. Still super sticky, after a couple of tokes.....taste is piney and with the orange lingering on exhale very lung expanding. So far pretty good View attachment 4774230just gotta measure the high.
Got 1 of the chem d x boo going as well. Mine's at 3 weeks flowering and so far is the frostiest plant in the tent. Very easy plant to grow as well with no issues.
 

Rottedroots

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Growing good weed is not that tough (no offense to anyone who has trouble) and it's pretty easy to keep yourself in smoke so the more I think about it the idea of being more adventurous sounds pretty good. Weed helped me maintain a standard of living for a lot of years but the need is just not there anymore. These days I give away a lot and make sure I've got a case of mason jars in reserve. It's funny, I'm gearing up fo a run and I've got beans of Bubba Kush and WW coming and I know they're goñna produce but they're sounding so boring now! I'll have to back pedal through this thread and see what people are messing with and give it a shot. Might be fun.
 

Kp sunshine

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Got 1 of the chem d x boo going as well. Mine's at 3 weeks flowering and so far is the frostiest plant in the tent. Very easy plant to grow as well with no issues.
That's the cross that I was ordering until jbc shut down international orders and now it's gone.
I would bet youre going to need some fresh carbon to tame her scent very soon. Good luck and keep posting !!
 
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