djwillywonka
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Hi
New grower and wondering if i should be transplanting these seedlings ?
New grower and wondering if i should be transplanting these seedlings ?
Should I transplant seedling ?
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insomnia65
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Deffo yes, they look like they are ready to play football.
Leggy
Leggy
djwillywonka
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Thanks for the info
Doug Dawson
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I concur with Eugenios, burry those stretching stems up to the Cotyledons and than give them more light or they will keep stretching.
djwillywonka
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okay gotcha
djwillywonka
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This seedlings are growing in coco coir and i just recently water them this morning . Would transplanting them cause stress on the seedlings being that the coco is moist ?
djwillywonka
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These seedlings are growing in coco coir and i just recently water them this morning . Would transplanting them cause stress on the seedlings being that the coco is moist ?
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DrBuzzFarmer
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Please, plant them....
but....
No need to bury them deeply if you have a light of enough intensity.
They will stiffen up with the right light and a bit of a breeze from a fan or something.
Their taproot is in circles, so try to GENTLY straighten it out a bit when you repot, if you can easily enough.
The coco being wet means it might break up a bit when you remove it and the coco might fall away, just be gentle with the roots and don't pile them in pile. Swirl the seedling as you put it into the coco, so the roots are spread out a bit.
Water it upon repotting with a bit if Hormex, to encourage the roots to heal and begin growing naturally again.
You should be good.
but....
No need to bury them deeply if you have a light of enough intensity.
They will stiffen up with the right light and a bit of a breeze from a fan or something.
Their taproot is in circles, so try to GENTLY straighten it out a bit when you repot, if you can easily enough.
The coco being wet means it might break up a bit when you remove it and the coco might fall away, just be gentle with the roots and don't pile them in pile. Swirl the seedling as you put it into the coco, so the roots are spread out a bit.
Water it upon repotting with a bit if Hormex, to encourage the roots to heal and begin growing naturally again.
You should be good.
Doug Dawson
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So you suggest the new grower ignore what everyone is telling them, not burry the over stretched seedling for support and mess with the tap root?
DrBuzzFarmer
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'xactly.
the advice is putting him at risk of acquiring a pathogen.
bark on roots is not the same as bark on stems.
sure, lots of people do it with good results, but I have seen what can happen, so my advice keeps that in mind.
Edit: why would you want your roots buried so deep only half the pot is available to the roots?
They will be a tangled mess that choke each other out.
Doug Dawson
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No, water the coco you are going transplant into with the same nutes you are using on your seedling. The idea is to make it so the plant does not notice a change, same coco, same nutes, gentle when transplanting and the plants won't be bothered at all. If it makes you more comfortable than let it dry a bit but I would not bother. Burring the stem is a good and common fix for your issue. In the end it's up to you, good luck.
Doug Dawson
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Bark on roots? Not sure what you mean by that? What pathogen are you referring too? Burying stems of stretchy seedlings is a tried and true practice done by so many without any issue so I really am curious what you are thinking here. I would also never, ever recommend a new grower do anything with the tap root. Those little things are not root bound so the less you mess with the roots the better, the plants will sort out the rest IMO. Hey, opinions vary and I am not trying to pick on your advice, more trying to understand it.
Doug Dawson
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The stem below the coco will eventually root out. If you are transplanting into 3 or 5 gallon pots the few inches won't take up half the pot, not even close. As for becoming a tangled mess that choke each other out, that does not happen unless you use way too small a pot and than not bother to pot up for the next stage.
So what is this pathogen you are concerned about? What is bark on roots?
DrBuzzFarmer
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No problem.
Bark is the stuff on the outside of the plant material, everywhere but the leaves......
but seriously....
bark doesn't have the same resistance above ground, to the pathogens existing in the medium. If there is any damage, seen or unseen, it allows pathogens to enter into the plant much easier.
I also used to bury stretchy seedlings, until it became apparent that it causes issues.
Now, first option is to make sure such stretch doesn't happen, by applying sufficient light.
Second option is to stiffen them up with a fan and good light. Most plant will eventually become much bigger than the biggest seedling, so there is room to play with. You simply apply enough light to keep them in place.
If you bury the plant deeply in a pot, it must grow roots in an unnatural manner, filling the bottom and winding their way back to the surface, where chances are they will become entangled and "choke" the plant.
That is what I was thinking.
djwillywonka
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Thanks everyone for the advice and I really appreciate this information .
Doug Dawson
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Well I cannot say I agree with a bunch of that but hey, opinions vary and I don't know everything to be sure. Thanks for the explanation, happy growing.No problem.
Bark is the stuff on the outside of the plant material, everywhere but the leaves......
but seriously....
bark doesn't have the same resistance above ground, to the pathogens existing in the medium. If there is any damage, seen or unseen, it allows pathogens to enter into the plant much easier.
I also used to bury stretchy seedlings, until it became apparent that it causes issues.
Now, first option is to make sure such stretch doesn't happen, by applying sufficient light.
Second option is to stiffen them up with a fan and good light. Most plant will eventually become much bigger than the biggest seedling, so there is room to play with. You simply apply enough light to keep them in place.
If you bury the plant deeply in a pot, it must grow roots in an unnatural manner, filling the bottom and winding their way back to the surface, where chances are they will become entangled and "choke" the plant.
That is what I was thinking.
PadawanWarrior
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If it was me, I would transplant and bury the stem. When you do, coat the newly formed hole with Mykos and get it all over the root ball too. It helps if you mist the hole and root ball first so it sticks better, but I'm lazy sometimes anymore.
Oh, and get that light closer so they don't keep stretching.
DrBuzzFarmer
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Here's one that was so leggy it was laying on the dirt.
Even with my cat grazing on it, 400 watts of MH has brought it back around nicely.
This was a OG that a friend overwatered and gave to me to save.
It is a leggy plant to start with, but it will fill half a trellis by the time I am done.
Just a bit of careful treatment and they can recover very nicely, without cramping the roots.
Even with my cat grazing on it, 400 watts of MH has brought it back around nicely.
This was a OG that a friend overwatered and gave to me to save.
It is a leggy plant to start with, but it will fill half a trellis by the time I am done.
Just a bit of careful treatment and they can recover very nicely, without cramping the roots.
