Fogdog
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I suspect the fascists in the Capitol Hill security staff had a hand in it. No way Trump would have been active in ensuring security, so, as they say in bull fighting,
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The people behind the violence in the American protests of George Floyd.
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hanimmal
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The million man march totally would have been if they stormed the capital building.
JoeBlow5823
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For? He already lost. Chill the fuck out.
doublejj
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inciting sedition.....lock him up
hanimmal
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hanimmal
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That their jobs were several cities away? Or still living at home in the suburbs?
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-people-behind-the-violence-in-the-american-protests-of-george-floyd.1018871/post-15690952
MY OWN DANK
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You really didn't think you'd get me on the ole switcheroo again did you?...ha...you did tho didn't you...as your boy would say "C'mon Maaan"...ha...That their jobs were several cities away? Or still living at home in the suburbs?
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-people-behind-the-violence-in-the-american-protests-of-george-floyd.1018871/post-15690952
N whoever that ignorant bitch is in that pic she looks like the type if you know what I mean?...yeah you know what I mean
hanimmal
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I know what you mean. Im sure she was passed around when she got locked up for busting shit up acting like the rest of the white nationalist domestic terrorists and other crazies that used the protests for cover to do exactly what they did today in our nation's capital.You really didn't think you'd get me on the ole switcheroo again did you?...ha...you did tho didn't you...as your boy would say "C'mon Maaan"...ha...
N whoever that ignorant bitch is in that pic she looks like the type if you know what I mean?...yeah you know what I mean
MY OWN DANK
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She's been passed around alight
hanimmal
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-arrests/fbi-seeks-publics-help-in-identifying-trump-supporters-who-stormed-u-s-capitol-idUSKBN29C0GG?il=0
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The FBI sought the public’s help in identifying the rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol, as the Justice Department said on Thursday a policy adopted in the summer to consider sedition charges for anti-racism protesters would also apply in this case.
The first of about 70 people arrested after Wednesday’s assault by President Donald Trump’s supporters on the seat of the U.S. government were due in court on Thursday, with most facing initial charges of violating a curfew imposed to quell the unrest.
The assault forced members of Congress who were in the process of certifying President-elect Joe Biden’s victory to evacuate the chambers for several hours.
The U.S. Capitol Police said they had arrested another 14 suspects in connection with the rioting, most charged with unlawful entry.
The Justice Department confirmed that a policy put in place urging federal prosecutors to consider “seditious conspiracy” charges for people involved in anti-racism protests would also apply to those who stormed the Capitol, smashing windows and stealing property.
Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen “continues his commitment to the charging considerations” spelled out in the summer memo laying out that policy, a Justice Department spokesman said in a statement on Thursday.
In a late-night news conference, Metropolitan Police Department Chief Robert Contee said most of the arrests were related to violations of Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser’s curfew, and included people arrested on U.S. Capitol grounds.
Several others were arrested on charges related to carrying unlicensed or prohibited firearms.
A spokeswoman for the District of Columbia Superior Court told Reuters court appearances for the people who were arrested and not detained would not take place until March and April.
The FBI is taking the lead on an investigation into two pipe bombs that were recovered from the headquarters of the Republican and Democratic national committees.
D.C. police said the bombs were authentic, and also told reporters they had recovered a cooler from a vehicle on U.S. Capitol grounds that contained Molotov cocktails.
The FBI has asked the public to submit tips, including images and videos, to help agents identify people who were “actively instigating violence.”
Mayor Bowser said police also intend to ask the public for help in identifying rioters, many of whom posed for photos inside the Capitol building and can be seen in videos on social media without masks.
While the number of people arrested is expected to grow, the initial number paled in comparison with the more than 300 people arrested by police following the June 1 protests in the District of Columbia related to the police killing of George Floyd.
In that incident, baton-swinging police and federal agents fired smoke canisters, flash-bang grenades and rubber bullets to drive protesters farther from the White House, enabling Trump to walk across Lafayette Square and hold up a Bible in front of historic St. John’s Church.
Law enforcement officers were severely criticized for being too aggressive at Lafayette Square. The Capitol Police are now facing questions about why they did not do more to secure the Capitol building.
Fogdog
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I don't know if I believe the paradigm is shifting away from a belief among right and left wing protesters that police favor the right. However, given their seemingly blithe attitude toward showing their faces to Capitol video cameras, right wing protestors seemed to believe that police would arrest them. Also at a protest in Salem a few weeks ago, they seemed shocked and angered when they were greeted with a hail of pepper balls and mace when they tried to force their way into the lobby of the Oregon Statehouse. One of the MAGAts even bear sprayed a police officer when the officer didn't allow him to cross a police cordon.
This, from 538 regarding the apparent surprise by Trump's Terrorists at a violent and deadly police response:
fivethirtyeight.com
Police Response In D.C. Flies In The Face Of Right-Wing Self-Perception
I just got off the phone with Ed Maguire, a professor of criminology at Arizona State University who studies interactions between protesters and police, and he told me that his interviews with protesters have shown a consistent pattern: Left-wing protesters believe that police are against them and will rough them up more than other kinds of protesters; right-wing protesters believe that police are on their side.
There’s not much empirical evidence to show whether those perceptions are true, but even unprovable beliefs can end up mattering a lot if they shape behavior.
But today’s events are likely to change the game. When he interviewed right-wing protesters at Stop the Steal events in Arizona over the past few months, Maguire was surprised to find just how strong — and how religious — their belief in police support was. “They believed God was on their side and police were backing them,” he told me. “That leftists are Godless and they hate God and hate America. [But right-wing protesters] were God fearing moral people and police would always back them for that reason.”
Now, they have evidence that isn’t true. The use of police force against right-wing protesters — any force — upsets the apple cart of some very deeply held beliefs, Maguire said. And that’s likely to have consequences of some kind.
This, from 538 regarding the apparent surprise by Trump's Terrorists at a violent and deadly police response:
Police Response In D.C. Flies In The Face Of Right-Wing Self-Perception
While the police response in Washington, D.C., Wednesday may look like a disproportionate lack of force compared with the response to protests this summer, it i…
fivethirtyeight.com
Police Response In D.C. Flies In The Face Of Right-Wing Self-Perception
I just got off the phone with Ed Maguire, a professor of criminology at Arizona State University who studies interactions between protesters and police, and he told me that his interviews with protesters have shown a consistent pattern: Left-wing protesters believe that police are against them and will rough them up more than other kinds of protesters; right-wing protesters believe that police are on their side.
There’s not much empirical evidence to show whether those perceptions are true, but even unprovable beliefs can end up mattering a lot if they shape behavior.
But today’s events are likely to change the game. When he interviewed right-wing protesters at Stop the Steal events in Arizona over the past few months, Maguire was surprised to find just how strong — and how religious — their belief in police support was. “They believed God was on their side and police were backing them,” he told me. “That leftists are Godless and they hate God and hate America. [But right-wing protesters] were God fearing moral people and police would always back them for that reason.”
Now, they have evidence that isn’t true. The use of police force against right-wing protesters — any force — upsets the apple cart of some very deeply held beliefs, Maguire said. And that’s likely to have consequences of some kind.
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hanimmal
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That does explain a lot.I don't know if I believe the paradigm is shifting away from a belief among right and left wing protesters that police favor the right. However, given their seemingly blithe attitude toward showing their faces to Capitol video cameras, right wing protestors seemed to believe that police would arrest them. Also at a protest in Salem a few weeks ago, they seemed shocked and angered when they were greeted with a hail of pepper balls and mace when they tried to force their way into the lobby of the Oregon Statehouse. One of the MAGAts even bear sprayed a police officer when the officer didn't allow him to cross a police cordon.
This, from 538 regarding the apparent surprise by Trump's Terrorists at a violent and deadly police response:
Police Response In D.C. Flies In The Face Of Right-Wing Self-PerceptionPolice Response In D.C. Flies In The Face Of Right-Wing Self-Perception
While the police response in Washington, D.C., Wednesday may look like a disproportionate lack of force compared with the response to protests this summer, it i…
I just got off the phone with Ed Maguire, a professor of criminology at Arizona State University who studies interactions between protesters and police, and he told me that his interviews with protesters have shown a consistent pattern: Left-wing protesters believe that police are against them and will rough them up more than other kinds of protesters; right-wing protesters believe that police are on their side.
There’s not much empirical evidence to show whether those perceptions are true, but even unprovable beliefs can end up mattering a lot if they shape behavior.
But today’s events are likely to change the game. When he interviewed right-wing protesters at Stop the Steal events in Arizona over the past few months, Maguire was surprised to find just how strong — and how religious — their belief in police support was. “They believed God was on their side and police were backing them,” he told me. “That leftists are Godless and they hate God and hate America. [But right-wing protesters] were God fearing moral people and police would always back them for that reason.”
Now, they have evidence that isn’t true. The use of police force against right-wing protesters — any force — upsets the apple cart of some very deeply held beliefs, Maguire said. And that’s likely to have consequences of some kind.
It is amazing how much the brainwashing has stuck with these people. But I guess if you get to watch video of some white kid that murdered people walking right past police it really would imprint that you are rioting with the support of the police.
There is a sheep joke in here somewhere with the morons wearing their shepherd LARPing outfits, but I am too tired to think of it.
Damn imagine if you knew ahead of time all the white supremacists/nazi's in the police force. Like on a actual excel sheet.
You could set up a crawler to match the names of those officers with any/all public police reports and push those stories that you know a racist is involved with using click farm/trolls to the audience it would impact the most and just sit back and play the long troll, because you know eventually that situation will have a higher chance of blowing up with a George Floyd.
Scary stuff when you know a foreign military has all of our dirty laundry and we are left vulnerable to this propaganda attack.
DIY-HP-LED
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I'll wait for the congressional and new DOJ report on policing and on the in depth look at the capital hill situation. The democrats have a majority and on certain important issues the republicans are shattered. The moron mob invasion of the Capital broke the back of the elephant and I think things might be different in the senate and even house. Those who crossed the line with Trump are in trouble or will be if they are connected to the mob that ransacked the capital.
The sacking of the capital by the Coup Klux Klan was the capstone of the Trump presidency. It was dangerous and painful to watch, but it will do much to change America both politically and culturally. Donald must have got a shock at what he has unleashed upon himself and his lunatic supporters. If these dumb cunts are stupid enough to show up in Washington armed before the inauguration Christ help them.
hanimmal
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In the aftermath of the Trump riots on Jan 6th 2021, the violence of QAnon cultists on display made me think that I hope people arrested for violence over the summer had their online activity checked for involvement in this nonsense.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/13/qanon-capitol-siege-trump/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/13/qanon-capitol-siege-trump/
The siege on the U.S. Capitol played out as a QAnon fantasy made real: The faithful rose up in their thousands, summoned to Washington by their leader, President Trump. They seized the people’s house as politicians cowered under desks. Hordes wearing T-shirts emblazoned with the “Q” symbol and toting Trump flags closed in to deliver justice, armed with zip-tie handcuffs and rope and guns.
The “#Storm” envisioned on far-right message boards had arrived. And two women who had died in the rampage — both QAnon devotees — had become what some were calling the first martyrs of the cause.
The siege ended with police retaking the Capitol and Trump being rebuked and losing his Twitter account. But the failed insurrection marked a grim milestone in how the paranoid conspiracy theory QAnon has radicalized Americans, reshaped the Republican Party and gained a forceful grip on right-wing belief.
Born in the Internet’s fever swamps, QAnon played an unmistakable role in energizing rioters during the real-world attack on Jan. 6. A man in a “Q” T-shirt led the breach of the Senate, while a shirtless, fur-clad believer known as the “Q Shaman” posed for photographers in the Senate chamber. Twitter later purged more than 70,000 accounts associated with the conspiracy theory, in an acknowledgment of the online potency of QAnon.
The baseless conspiracy theory, which imagines Trump in a battle with a cabal of deep-state saboteurs who worship Satan and traffic children for sex, helped drive the day’s events and facilitate organized attacks. A pro-Trump mob overwhelmed Capitol Police officers, injuring dozens, and one officer later died as a result. One woman was fatally shot by police inside the Capitol. Three others in the crowd died of medical emergencies.
QAnon devotees joined with extremist group members and white supremacists at the Capitol assault after finding one another on Internet sanctuaries: the conservative forums of TheDonald.win and Parler; the anonymous extremist channels of 8kun and Telegram; and the social media giants of Facebook and Twitter, which have scrambled in recent months to prevent devotees from organizing on their sites.
“The takeaway from this is that disinformation is a threat to our democracy,” said Joel Finkelstein, co-founder of the Network Contagion Research Institute, a research group that studies online disinformation. “And we’re not nearly done.”
As much of the nation — including leading Republicans — expressed horror at last week’s events, a different narrative was playing out in the parallel online universe that has grown around Trump’s presidency and helped sustain it through perpetual upheaval. The siege was justified, described on Twitter by one QAnon devotee as “the least we can do.” Or it was staged as a false flag to discredit Trump supporters, with its participants as the true victims.
“You all know the attack on the Capitol was done by [the far-left political movement] antifa,” Thomas McInerney, a retired lieutenant general in the Air Force, declared in remarks captured on video and peppered across Twitter by accounts participating in a frenzied effort to construct a different narrative of the Capitol riots.
In recent months, it has become challenging to know where QAnon’s world ends and Trump’s begins. QAnon T-shirts and banners are a constant presence at Trump’s rallies, and pro-Trump figures are exalted by QAnon believers as heroes.
Twitter bans Trump’s account, citing risk of further violence
Trump has rarely explicitly acknowledged QAnon, which has been linked by law enforcement to intensifying real-world violence, although believers have often celebrated when he has retweeted the conspiracy theory’s best-known promoters. In August, when Trump was asked whether he believed QAnon’s core claims that he was “secretly saving the world from this cult of pedophiles and cannibals,” Trump replied, “If I can help save the world from problems, I am willing to do it. … We are actually, we’re saving the world.”
Q’s relative quiet since the election has led some believers toward a crisis of faith on whether Q had abandoned the flock. But many still call on their fellow adherents to “trust the plan”: “Do not mistake silence for inaction,” says one site that sends alerts whenever Q posts a new “intelligence drop.”
hanimmal
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/push-to-impeach-biden-after-election.1043017/post-16073495
Thank you @captainmorgan for this link. I didn't know they linked this fire to the brainwashed domestic terrorists. It is amazing how the right wing propagandists still push the lies about who has been doing the real rioting all summer long using these protests as cover.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd
Thank you @captainmorgan for this link. I didn't know they linked this fire to the brainwashed domestic terrorists. It is amazing how the right wing propagandists still push the lies about who has been doing the real rioting all summer long using these protests as cover.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd
hanimmal
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-people-behind-the-violence-in-the-american-protests-of-george-floyd.1018871/post-16017480
New video of the Oregon politician that let in the rioters to their capital building that they smashed up.
New video of the Oregon politician that let in the rioters to their capital building that they smashed up.
Leaves right into a group of 'protestors'.
Who then rush in after him to grab the closing door.
About 4 minutes later after he left that door he returns through another door to get back in.
