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grass_fish

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Fish_Ass, STFU, SHIT CHOKED KOOK

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LOL As much fun as I was having It was not coming from a good space. I wrote this becasue It was not fair and not what I wanted to be contributing to.

Sorry for being so aggressive. I did go out of my way to draw you out using ego and a few other tricks. It wasn’t fair and was clearly offside. I have spent the last 28 years caring for and helping people. I do develop systems to help growers who use wheelchairs as well as systems for growing food ( Hobby). I also help people with disabilities across all spectrum's. It is recently that I encountered the stress of watching the system fail and watching the most vulnerable get destroyed without the ability to help them. These are people I spent the last 15 years helping succeed with work and life. Not only were they using tax payer dollars to receive services but when working they were paying taxes. They had pride and real construction based contracting jobs. The trauma of watching them loose their right to work and get thrown on the street pretty much destroyed my filters. I now meet them on the street where they use Meth, Heroin, and struggle with thier new reality. This is not your problem and I am sorry for using you to unload my anger and frustration. If you dont "understand" CaptainMorgan that's a Real apology for my being an ass and playing games with your logic.

I will always be open to alternative points of view but like you I do use a real science lens and check my sources. Not the fun I posted but the real science. That said I never leave out flexibility and the importance of knowing that in the past we had assumptions that today have been proven wrong. I believe it’s important to avoid negative outcomes from ridged thought even if the idea is currently socially rewarding, self soothing.

Sincerely I am sorry for getting so aggressive. You didn’t deserve that.

Humbly
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injinji

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I'm scheduled to get my vax tomorrow morning.
That is great news. Sister has her name on the list. They will call when her number comes up. Here in Florida they are letting anyone 65 or older try to get the vaccine. I say try because the demand is far outpacing supply at this point. My county got it's first few shots this week. Folks at the hospital, nursing homes, fire chief were the first ones.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Shit, more bad news, very fucking bad news folks, new antibody drugs are required and new vaccines. Not quite square one for mRNA vaccines though, they would just modify the strand and package different mRNA strands in a liposome to produce multiple antibody responses. Testing and clinical trials take time and this is a moving target.


South African Covid variant appears to ‘obviate’ antibody drugs, Dr. Scott Gottlieb says

KEY POINTS
  • “The South Africa variant is very concerning right now because it does appear that it may obviate some of our medical countermeasures, particularly the antibody drugs,” Dr. Scott Gottlieb said.
  • The South African variant is also known as 501.V2, and in mid-December officials reported that 501.V2 had been largely replacing other strains of the coronavirus as early as November.
  • More than 17 million Covid doses have been distributed to states, but only 4.8 million Americans have received their first shot according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned that vaccinating Americans against Covid is more critical than ever, especially as the new South Africa variant appears to inhibit antibody drugs.

“The South Africa variant is very concerning right now because it does appear that it may obviate some of our medical countermeasures, particularly the antibody drugs,” said the former FDA chief in the Trump administration in an interview on CNBC’s “The News with Shepard Smith” on Tuesday evening. “Right now that strain does appear to be prevalent in South America and Brazil, the two parts of the world, right now, that are in their summer, but also experiencing a very dense epidemic, and that’s concerning.

The South African variant is also known as 501.V2, and in mid-December officials reported that 501.V2 had been largely replacing other strains of the coronavirus as early as November. South Africa has already sustained the more than 1.1 million COVID-19 cases and more than 30,000 deaths, the most on the African continent.
Gottlieb cited experimental evidence from Bloom Lab, and explained 501.V2 does appear to partially escape prior immunity. It means that some of the antibodies people produce when they get infected with Covid, as well as the antibody drugs, may not be quite as effective.

“The new variant has mutated a part of the spike protein that our antibodies bind to, to try to clear the virus itself, so this is concerning,” Gottlieb said. “Now, the vaccine can become a backstop against these variants really getting more of a foothold here in the United States, but we need to quicken the pace of vaccination.”

Operation Warp Speed’s director of supply production and distribution Ret. Lt. Gen. Paul Ostrowski told host Shepard Smith on Dec. 3 that everyone who wants a vaccine will be able to get one by June. Projections are currently falling short, however. More than 17 million Covid doses have been distributed to states, but only 4.8 million Americans have received their first shot according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Gottlieb suggested working through prioritized categories of people more quickly, expanding the number of vaccination sites, and stockpiling a smaller percentage of dosages in order to vaccinate more Americans.

“It really is a race against time trying to get more vaccine into people’s arms before these new variants become more prevalent here in the United States,” said Gottlieb.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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White House Covid task force warns of possible new ‘USA variant’ driving spread

The White House coronavirus task force said there could be a new variant of the virus that evolved in the U.S. and is driving spread, according to a document obtained by NBC News.

The new variant, in addition to the U.K. variant, is already spreading in communities and may be 50% more transmissible, according to the report that was issued to states on Jan. 3.

Representatives for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Department of Health and Human Services did not immediately return CNBC’s requests for comment.
 

Jimdamick

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White House Covid task force warns of possible new ‘USA variant’ driving spread

The White House coronavirus task force said there could be a new variant of the virus that evolved in the U.S. and is driving spread, according to a document obtained by NBC News.

The new variant, in addition to the U.K. variant, is already spreading in communities and may be 50% more transmissible, according to the report that was issued to states on Jan. 3.

Representatives for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Department of Health and Human Services did not immediately return CNBC’s requests for comment.
Hey, I got an idea!
Trump is asking/wants something named after himself after/before he leaves office on the 20th?
He has suggested airports/warships
Let's fucking give it to him
The Trump COVID-19 strain.
He owns/deserves it :)
 

CunningCanuk

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White House Covid task force warns of possible new ‘USA variant’ driving spread

The White House coronavirus task force said there could be a new variant of the virus that evolved in the U.S. and is driving spread, according to a document obtained by NBC News.

The new variant, in addition to the U.K. variant, is already spreading in communities and may be 50% more transmissible, according to the report that was issued to states on Jan. 3.

Representatives for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Department of Health and Human Services did not immediately return CNBC’s requests for comment.
This is why Biden said he’s not holding back vaccines. This is bad news and I guarantee this variant is in Canada too and the reason for the spikes we’re seeing.

Our vaccine rollout has been a disgrace. I hope we get our shit together soon.
 

insomnia65

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Dread looking at the news, wary to go outside, people can't travel 5 miles in a car to go and do exercise here in the UK two women fined for that today, facial recognition with masks now, the old Scot in dad's Army had it right.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Hey, I got an idea!
Trump is asking/wants something named after himself after/before he leaves office on the 20th?
He has suggested airports/warships
Let's fucking give it to him
The Trump COVID-19 strain.
He owns/deserves it :)
I was thinking it wouldn't be too difficult to persuade the medical community to rename hemorrhoids to TRUMPS... :lol:

For now, let's just say Uncle Sam has got a real nasty pain in the ass, but will feel much better after a good shit on the 20th.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is why Biden said he’s not holding back vaccines. This is bad news and I guarantee this variant is in Canada too and the reason for the spikes we’re seeing.

Our vaccine rollout has been a disgrace. I hope we get our shit together soon.
They took a break vaccinating here from the 31st to the 6th of Jan, 7 fucking Days? Supplies are limited though and only old folks 75 and over, plus medical staff for now.

 
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zeddd

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Dread looking at the news, wary to go outside, people can't travel 5 miles in a car to go and do exercise here in the UK two women fined for that today, facial recognition with masks now, the old Scot in dad's Army had it right.
Yes it’s designed to stop people dying, the old racist in dads army had it wrong.
 
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