friend claims large fan leaves innefficient. Cut them off.

[CrackerJax]

That all threads degenerate when a lot of stoners converse?

So when I walked the roses over to the fireplace, my neck has been bothering me.



out.

 

[tinyTURTLE]

well my mom cut my arms and legs off when i was a child so my brain could get bigger

lol.
kinda, huh?

dont do it unless you are doing LST or a low scrog. and then only to keep leaves out of the soil.

think of the plant as a space station that is doing a power intensive project. is cutting off the solar panels gonna help? if you do it you do it to make way for light getting to lower growth so IT can grow big fan leaves and get tall.

 

[mistaphuck]

well ive cut off a few fan leaves not alot but a few and look ay my plants! click da sig!

 

[superman27nc]

I have a question everyone..i am thinking of doing a scrog on my next grow since my grow space is limited...I have read that a couple days after you put the plants into flowering to trim off all leaves and stems except the top 3-5 inter nodes..is this a smart choice?

 

[fdd2blk]

nobody listens.

 

[superman27nc]

im only asking this question cause its a scrog..never done this before..my first and current grow I haven't dared touch a leaf because I understand all the concepts of why the leaves are so important..but scrogging is all new to me..just wondering if anyone of you has done a scrog before and what you have done about pruning..im just looking to maximize my grow..all help appreciated..

 

[Bamstone]

Never cut your fan leaves, they are the plant's batteries. If you are doing a scrog let them die naturally while the upper ones take over.

 

[superman27nc]

thanks! Bam..again all advice is appreciated..

 

[fdd2blk]

im only asking this question cause its a scrog..never done this before..my first and current grow I haven't dared touch a leaf because I understand all the concepts of why the leaves are so important..but scrogging is all new to me..just wondering if anyone of you has done a scrog before and what you have done about pruning..im just looking to maximize my grow..all help appreciated..

i did an outdoor scrog. i removed no leaves.

 

[barrgemike]

leaves "collect" light, not "block" it.

Best way to put it, right there.


Also, think of your plants as a fruit tree, if you cut all the leafs off, your going to have alot of burnt fruit.
Well, maybe not alot.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

Actually, you CAN increase yield with pruning and stalking, especially in a ScROG...

Trimming everything below the screen and creating a even canopy above will yield bigger denser buds.

The energy used to grow the lower fans and inside branch popcorn buds will be transfered to the growing tops.

Trimming off all the fans is a bad idea, but getting rid of the ones on the bottom and inner branch buds will definately stimulate growth to the tops of the plant.

So...

Yes, trimming everything below the top 5 nodes in a ScROG will increase yield.


And, yes, I'm listening...

 

[tinyTURTLE]

i did an outdoor scrog. i removed no leaves./quote]


i loled. oh jiminy crickits that is a peice of work. looks kinda like an almond tree or a small apple tree at first glance.

 

[superman27nc]

i did an outdoor scrog. i removed no leaves.


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thanks..nice looking plants

 

[superman27nc]

Actually, you CAN increase yield with pruning and stalking, especially in a ScROG...

Trimming everything below the screen and creating a even canopy above will yield bigger denser buds.

The energy used to grow the lower fans and inside branch popcorn buds will be transfered to the growing tops.

Trimming off all the fans is a bad idea, but getting rid of the ones on the bottom and inner branch buds will definately stimulate growth to the tops of the plant.

So...

Yes, trimming everything below the top 5 nodes in a ScROG will increase yield.


And, yes, I'm listening...

thanks as well!..in your experience trimming did you clean out underneath the canopy before flowering or a certain time frame after..

 

[MrHowardMarks]

Trimming and stalking should be done before the 2nd week of flowering.

I trim them up before flowering, and again after week one.

 

[The Martian]

Hi All.
Disregarding scroging and any kind of special growth training, surely its godda be better to leave the leaves????
Any leaf, is part of the plants conversion system, IE solar energy into sugars/carbs/enzyms/homones/etc? so removing one leaf, because its shading another doesn't make sense, surely the leaf nearer the light source is gonna recieve light of a higher intensity? (knowing as we do that light obeys the inverse square law, (OK we know it raelly only aplies to a point souce, but it illustrates the importance of having the lightsource as near as possible)).
And doesn't a plant have a mechanism in the leaf/petiole to move and angle leaves to reacieve the maximum light it can?
Also it seems poeple like to remove leaves when they look less than perfect, but in a leaf that is dieing even, doesn't the plant try to recover all the good stuff from it before it gets rid of the leaf, that is all the colours changing as the plant removes anything usefull from it prior to dropping it?
So unless it is really "in the way" in some way, surely its better to leave it until either the plant drops it, or you decide its as good as spent.
After all, its already spent energy making some of the goodies that it is now removing from the leaf, before getting rid, and removing a healthy leaf is throwing away usefull ingredients the plant has already spent time producing.
Granted its not quite that simple, as some elements are mobile, some imobile.
I'd be interested to hear any other thoughts on this subject, as it seems there are almost as many opinions as growers.
Toodle Pip.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

I always figured energy being spent on growing lower fan leaves and inside branches is useless and should be transfered to the growing top.

After trimming off innerbuds and lower fans I notice a boost of growth to the top of the plant, I don't remove upper fans, I just try to create a canopy of flowering tops, with no underbrush... I'll go fetch a pic so you can understand further. BRB

 

[fdd2blk]

I always figured energy being spent on growing lower fan leaves and inside branches is useless and should be transfered to the growing top.

After trimming off innerbuds and lower fans I notice a boost of growth to the top of the plant, I don't remove upper fans, I just try to create a canopy of flowering tops, with no underbrush... I'll go fetch a pic so you can understand further. BRB

like this?

 

[MrHowardMarks]

Here's a shot of the stalked bottoms...

Here's a top view after week one.

And the final product...

 

[misshestermoffitt]

FDD, Those buds are bigger than the part of the tiki torch that holds the oil, damn......

MR Marks, can I come pitch a tent and live in your forest? I'll be real quiet, you won't even know I'm there.