seeds mix up

zagreengoblin

zagreengoblin

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i ordered all feminized seeds from a seed bank no auto flowers. i have 4 of them currently growing and i am approaching around 2 months in veg with a 18/6 light schedule. my problem is around 2-3 weeks ago 1 of the 4 plants started showing pistils. i read this was normal sometimes but now i am sure its gone into flowering because it stopped growing and pistils are growing out all over it. i would say its about 3 weeks into flowering now while the other 3 are good still vegging and growing. i dont really want to flip the switch and i want to keep them in veg a little longer. my lighting schedule has not changed from seeds no interrupted light or anything they are in a 4x4 tent. i really believe the seed bank may have gotten the seeds mixed up. is there any other explanation for this?

i have done LST, and topping on all of them and scrogged...they are in a waterfall rdwc each in 8 gallon buckets so moving the one isn't really a option.

what should i do here?

also if i flip the switch what about feeding/flushing etc as this plant is already way ahead of the other ones

any insight and help is appreciated
 

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zagreengoblin

zagreengoblin

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cirE said:
I think so. I bought an auto that is on day 75 and not flowering, I think mine got mixed up as well. Your plant in the back looks like it has some cupping leaves, I would check the temp.
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my temp gets 82 at the highest with all lights on.
what does cupping mean? i believe that could have came from me giving to much calmag 2 weeks ago. im using r/o water and i kinda messed up the mesaurement one time giving a bit to much, but i changed out the water. hopefully i didnt cause a lockout.

but anyway what seed bank you order from? and what strain? 75 days and not flowering is crazy

idk what to do about my situation
 
Wizzlebiz

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Thats an auto flower.

You. Can keep it at 18/6 until your ready for the non autos to flower.

If I were you I would flip that switch to 12/12.

The auto will still finish at 12/12.

But you have a bunch that aren't autos that that light should be set for.
 
Wizzlebiz

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zagreengoblin said:
my temp gets 82 at the highest with all lights on.
what does cupping mean? i believe that could have came from me giving to much calmag 2 weeks ago. im using r/o water and i kinda messed up the mesaurement one time giving a bit to much, but i changed out the water. hopefully i didnt cause a lockout.

but anyway what seed bank you order from? and what strain? 75 days and not flowering is crazy

idk what to do about my situation
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What lights are you using?
 
Doug Dawson

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cirE said:
I think so. I bought an auto that is on day 75 and not flowering, I think mine got mixed up as well. Your plant in the back looks like it has some cupping leaves, I would check the temp.
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Might have been mixed up or more likely just didn't take the Ruderalis gene when crossed. I would flip the light schedule or you will end up with a monster that can be difficult to deal with depending on your space.
 
Doug Dawson

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zagreengoblin said:
i ordered all feminized seeds from a seed bank no auto flowers. i have 4 of them currently growing and i am approaching around 2 months in veg with a 18/6 light schedule. my problem is around 2-3 weeks ago 1 of the 4 plants started showing pistils. i read this was normal sometimes but now i am sure its gone into flowering because it stopped growing and pistils are growing out all over it. i would say its about 3 weeks into flowering now while the other 3 are good still vegging and growing. i dont really want to flip the switch and i want to keep them in veg a little longer. my lighting schedule has not changed from seeds no interrupted light or anything they are in a 4x4 tent. i really believe the seed bank may have gotten the seeds mixed up. is there any other explanation for this?

i have done LST, and topping on all of them and scrogged...they are in a waterfall rdwc each in 8 gallon buckets so moving the one isn't really a option.

what should i do here?

also if i flip the switch what about feeding/flushing etc as this plant is already way ahead of the other ones

any insight and help is appreciated
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It's an auto. Contact the bank and they should make it right for you. I don't really see the issue about flipping? You are on 18/6 vegging now which is perfectly fine for an Auto. Stay like that as long as you like. Do you have the ability to perhaps move the auto to it's own space and use one of your lights on it? 12/12 will not allow your auto to grow to it's full potential.
 
Wizzlebiz

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zagreengoblin said:
thanks for the reply

and thats unfortunate i got sent some autos smh. its always something but i have three lights and what or how should i set the lights?

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The reason I asked about the lights is because with white LEDs you really want the canopy temp at 86 degrees with a higher range of humidity.

White LED dont put off IR light. So in order for your plants to transpire they need a higher temp.

Could easily be whats causing the slight cupping of the leaves.

I'm no expert with indoor grows. Ourdoor is my forte but this is something I struggled with at 1st with my LEDs.
 
zagreengoblin

zagreengoblin

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Doug Dawson said:
It's an auto. Contact the bank and they should make it right for you. I don't really see the issue about flipping? You are on 18/6 vegging now which is perfectly fine for an Auto. Stay like that as long as you like. Do you have the ability to perhaps move the auto to it's own space and use one of your lights on it? 12/12 will not allow your auto to grow to it's full potential.
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i wish i could move it i thought about that but its already far through the scrog net.
i guess ill just have to take the quality/quantity lost with the auto. i dont even know how autos work i never grew them. and who knows this could even be a different strain from the ones i ordered.

im just gonna 12/12 in a week.
ill keep this post updated
 
zagreengoblin

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Wizzlebiz said:
The reason I asked about the lights is because with white LEDs you really want the canopy temp at 86 degrees with a higher range of humidity.

White LED dont put off IR light. So in order for your plants to transpire they need a higher temp.

Could easily be whats causing the slight cupping of the leaves.

I'm no expert with indoor grows. Ourdoor is my forte but this is something I struggled with at 1st with my LEDs.
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the cupping and color changing didn't start until i gave to much calmag, also i noticed my plants started to have some magnesium deficiencies after giving to much.

im going to 12/12 in a week when i change out the veg nutes to give flowering nutes

my humidity is between 60/70
Temperate 81

ppm was in the 1200 range then I lowered to 800-is this a good range?

it seems my plants are drinking up water normally but not really talking in much nutrients now I changed the water after giving too much calmag and I have added a few base nutrients and only have been giving r/o water for topping off

notice the mag problem
Maybe some burning also
Weird thing is the auto is growing perfectly
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Doug Dawson

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zagreengoblin said:
i wish i could move it i thought about that but its already far through the scrog net.
i guess ill just have to take the quality/quantity lost with the auto. i dont even know how autos work i never grew them. and who knows this could even be a different strain from the ones i ordered.

im just gonna 12/12 in a week.
ill keep this post updated
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Auto's are the same as photos with the exception that they were crossed with a Russian weed called Ruderalis which does not need a light change to start flowering. A photo period plant basically starts budding when the light change happens, it's the extended darkness that tells it fall is coming and to start flowering so it can reproduce. An auto on the other hand does not require said light change as they bred it with the auto flowering Russian weed. You can keep the auto in there and it will do fine, it would just do better if it had more hours of light. Many do 18/6, 20/4 or even 24 hour of light for Autos. I prefer to allow the plants to have a dark period but some don't. Even at 12/12 it will do it's thing so just keep going but contact the seed bank and if they are decent they will replace that seed.
 
Doug Dawson

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zagreengoblin said:
the cupping and color changing didn't start until i gave to much calmag, also i noticed my plants started to have some magnesium deficiencies after giving to much.

thanks for the replies though im going to 12/12 in a week when i change out the veg nutes to give flowering nutes
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Calcium can lock out magnesium. Are you using Tap water? If so you could try dropping the Calmag and add some Epsom salts.
 
cirE

cirE

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Doug Dawson said:
Might have been mixed up or more likely just didn't take the Ruderalis gene when crossed. I would flip the light schedule or you will end up with a monster that can be difficult to deal with depending on your space.
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Im dont have enough space right now, so i need to wait for my 2 others to finish (probably another month or so) and then im going to put a SCROG net and try that. Im going to try some topping soon and continue LST.

Or... I have 1 plant about to finish this week, another one in about a month. Should I just switch to 12/12 now and LST the hell out of moby dick?
 
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