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Bakersfield said:
My condolences @Aheadatime for your loss no matter who you caught it from.

I brought this girl on the left into my garden, but didnt realize anything was wrong until I flowered her out and she ended up looking like this, with no terps and low potency.
The problem soon spread to all cultivars in the same room.
I had to put them all to the torch.
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was it the Fatso cut ? or the TK and FSG know of this boss ?
 
Bodyne said:
Is that heisens cut from deeply rooted? I've got a pack of the s1s set back. Think they do some swapping
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I didn’t ask him who he got the cut from. He is more from the San Diego collective scene, I can’t imagine he has much contact with heisen.
 
Aheadatime said:
I only ever worked with seeds, never had any Hop Latent Viroid (Hplvd) symptoms or issues, was a happy camper. Got clones from MamaFunk, bunched them with my genes in veg, and then a large portion of the garden started displaying Hplvd symptoms. Killed the symptomatic, tested the rest, found a positive Hplvd result.
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I have a couple questions. You said you got clones from mama funk. Put them in with your other veg stock, bunched them up, and then the rest of the plants got the viroid. Can you explain how your other plants got infected?
I am interested because I want to order from the Auntie when it warms up and get my mitts on that apple fritter.

My second question is why would you kill the mama funk clones and not get the offending ones from outside tested? The outside clones would be your control sample.
 
GrowRijt said:
I have a couple questions. You said you got clones from mama funk. Put them in with your other veg stock, bunched them up, and then the rest of the plants got the viroid. Can you explain how your other plants got infected?
I am interested because I want to order from the Auntie when it warms up and get my mitts on that apple fritter.

My second question is why would you kill the mama funk clones and not get the offending ones from outside tested? The outside clones would be your control sample.
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The other plants got infected because I regularly top and deleaf my vegging girls. This is the most common vector for hplvd - trimmers/scissors. So not only were they touching/bunched together, but they were sharing trim scissors, without cleaning them in between use.

The second question, I didn't know about hplvd when I dealt with MamaFunk. After seeing the symptoms in my garden, I searched around, and once I learned what hplvd was, I was a bit.. panicked. How contagious was it exactly? If I brushed up against an infected plant with my arm, and brushed another, could that spread it? Does it spread through the roots? Through runoff? Will a dead leaf from an infected plant still contain the viroid? How long does it survive without a living host? Will dried and cured flower pass it through trimmers/clothing/shoes? What a headache.

My solution was to immediately cull all of the symptomatic girls, deep clean the room, and buy new pots and trimmers. I kept the healthiest cut of only a handful of strains. To be certain my plan worked, I got these cuts tested. Even then, one of the girls ended up having it.

The question is framed in such a way that assumes I was interested in verifying MamaFunk's fault. I was not. I knew what happened. I wasn't interested in ruining her business, publicly shaming her, or getting a refund. My priority was to fix the problem I was dealing with by the time my flower room was ready to cycle. I still ended up two weeks behind schedule, but given the misfortune, everything worked out alright, and I gained experience and knowledge. I was cool with the whole thing. That's why I didn't advise people to avoid her, I just tell people to get their stuff tested.
 
DHN clones spreaded that virus everywhere. A lot of people don't even know they have it. A few dispensaries in cali stop carrying their cuts because of it..Small leaves, slow growth, etc...Gotta sour diesel from them a year or so ago. It had all the signs I just described..I tossed it asap. Had another strain from them that was just fine...Told myself I'm going back to seeds, but I'm a clone whore so it's hard(no pun intended)...

OP
 
Oliver Pantsoff said:
DHN clones spreaded that virus everywhere. A lot of people don't even know they have it. A few dispensaries in cali stop carrying their cuts because of it..Small leaves, slow growth, etc...Gotta sour diesel from them a year or so ago. It had all the signs I just described..I tossed it asap. Had another strain from them that was just fine...Told myself I'm going back to seeds, but I'm a clone whore so it's hard(no pun intended)...

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Yeah it's tricky because some strains can be infected with it and not show symptoms. That's why it's called hops latent viroid. Rough stuff. Testing is awesome though, makes it so that you can make sure you have a clean mother room. Harder to do when you're juggling 20+ strains, I'd imagine. I'm a small fry, so testing for me is cheap and easy.
 
colocowboy said:
I didn’t ask him who he got the cut from. He is more from the San Diego collective scene, I can’t imagine he has much contact with heisen.
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Heisens cuts been traded and circulated on there for a minute or two, just sayin. My supposed Corey cut went thru three cats, I believe and was supposedly his originally. Strainly has let em network much more than just geographically
 
Bodyne said:
3 days or so, right at freezing. I'm convinced the cold might be a tad easier on than that hot summer heat. Just a thought
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Cold is perfectly fine, if not preferable.

I've kept unrooted clones in plastic bags in the fridge for entire flower cycles. Just seal em up with a breath, wait a week, repeat. If there's not any condensation in the bag I add a spritz of water with a splash of h2o2 in the spray bottle, usually every other week.

Cheaper and more space efficient way to pheno hunt numbers.

I saw the grape dog you posted a while ago, looked like the D for sure. Any grape terms on the backend? I had a plant from the fems that looked like yours. Was insane.
 
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Has anybody purchased beans from Budsarelicious at all? Fast response to inquiries but as soon as I sent payment I haven’t heard anything back from him at all.
 
quiescent said:
I've kept unrooted clones in plastic bags in the fridge for entire flower cycles. Just seal em up with a breath, wait a week, repeat. If there's not any condensation in the bag I add a spritz of water with a splash of h2o2 in the spray bottle, usually every other week.
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I've heard of this. What's the success rate? I might try it with my next run to save space in the veg room, but I'm scared of losing a keeper pheno.
 
Looks like 3/4 gonna make it and I'm not sure the fourth won't. Look rough, got em after 3 days sub freezing temps, put in frig for two hrs, ocd got me, planted new pot fresh mix, been under a blurple after first week under cfl. Two weeks to the day today. Ice cream cake, zookies, trop cherry all got new growth, the duct tape is still standing, but looking iffy to me. Only bought two, got two freebies from pink box
 

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Aheadatime said:
I've heard of this. What's the success rate? I might try it with my next run to save space in the veg room, but I'm scared of losing a keeper pheno.
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I'd say 90%+. I haven't done this regularly so maybe I've been lucky in the past. I think the key is a clean fridge that's not set close to freezing in spots, clean snips, clean water and an attentive caretaker. This is something that is commonly done outside of weed.

I usually get 100% rates from fresh cuts but have lost a couple here and there using the fridge. That's more on me than the method, had some get mushed out by being frozen against the back wall. I'd say 37-40 are ideal temps.

Try it out on a few plants, I think if you're on your game it's solid.
 
Bodyne said:
Looks like 3/4 gonna make it and I'm not sure the fourth won't. Look rough, got em after 3 days sub freezing temps, put in frig for two hrs, ocd got me, planted new pot fresh mix, been under a blurple after first week under cfl. Two weeks to the day today. Ice cream cake, zookies, trop cherry all got new growth, the duct tape is still standing, but looking iffy to me. Only bought two, got two freebies from pink box
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If leaves are standing on their own they'll come around. When leaves are always droopy and sad its usually all she wrote.
 
quiescent said:
I usually get 100% rates from fresh cuts but have lost a couple here and there using the fridge. That's more on me than the method, had some get mushed out by being frozen against the back wall. I'd say 37-40 are ideal temps.

Try it out on a few plants, I think if you're on your game it's solid.
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Agreed but people putting hand warmers in shipments of clones are their own worst enemy ..give me cold clippings
 
Green Puddin said:
have you come to a conclusion yet @Mogro whether it's real or not? Or have a feeling i should say?
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I wish I could. The only trait I know to go by is a leaf twist that was shown here on roll it up. I didn’t have that in veg. I’m hoping by the time I let them finish up somebody here will know. If not I’ll wait for it to cure and see how potent it is.
 
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