Little help needed

[Rich11122]

Hey growing in soil with 5gl fabric pots .
In a 80x80 and 600watt hps ,
Just done my 1st week of flower and I can’t seem to get them in there happy place
They all seem very droopy few leafs twisting , here a few pics ,
All same strain 3 different pots .
Any help would be great

 

[2pacforever]

Hey growing in soil with 5gl fabric pots .
In a 80x80 and 600watt hps ,
Just done my 1st week of flower and I can’t seem to get them in there happy place
They all seem very droopy few leafs twisting , here a few pics ,
All same strain 3 different pots .
Any help would be great

Twisting of fan leaves is a ph problem and droopy leaves can be over or underwatering issues.

 

[Rich11122]

I’m watering every other day , and ph is around 6.2-6.8

 

[2pacforever]

I’m watering every other day , and ph is around 6.2-6.8

I water every 4 days.i have 7 gallon bags which allow good drainage.i give 4 cups of water.did you do a run off test?

 

[JimmyJackCorn]

We'd need to know more about your grow to help.

What is your grow medium, lights situation (type, schedule, location), nutrient regimen, etc.

 

[Rich11122]

I water every 4 days.i have 7 gallon bags which allow good drainage.i give 4 cups of water.did you do a run off test?

Hi no I’ve never done a run off test , I’ll wait for watering day and test this ,

 

[2pacforever]

Hi no I’ve never done a run off test , I’ll wait for watering day and test this ,

Yes run off test is a must.in some soils it changes ph.let me know how you make out on run off

 

[Rich11122]

We'd need to know more about your grow to help.

What is your grow medium, lights situation (type, schedule, location), nutrient regimen, etc.

I’m just using soil from a local garden center , my light is a 600watt hps digital ,12-12 , in a 80x80x1.8 lights around 18” away temps around 25-28 in the day and 14 at night , humidity is low around 14 , I’m using advanced nutritions and only feed half strength twice,

 

[JimmyJackCorn]

I’m just using soil from a local garden center , my light is a 600watt hps digital ,12-12 , in a 80x80x1.8 lights around 18” away temps around 25-28 in the day and 14 at night , humidity is low around 14 , I’m using advanced nutritions and only feed half strength twice,

18" seems kinda close to me for a 600w hps. I keep my 600w hps at least 24" away (but I use a lot of aluminum foil panels). At 20-22" I start having light problems.

Usually, pH isn't a problem with organic grows. Just make sure you water to runoff whenever you water. Make sure the soil is pretty dry before you do.

 

[2pacforever]

18" seems kinda close to me for a 600w hps. I keep my 600w hps at least 24" away (but I use a lot of aluminum foil panels). At 20-22" I start having light problems.

Usually, pH isn't a problem with organic grows. Just make sure you water to runoff whenever you water. Make sure the soil is pretty dry before you do.

Organic soils have a tendency to break down and make soils acidicy .you can't can't say organic soils don't change ph.its does sometimes when watering.theres tons of articles.but yes a run off test will prove it

 

[Rich11122]

18" seems kinda close to me for a 600w hps. I keep my 600w hps at least 24" away (but I use a lot of aluminum foil panels). At 20-22" I start having light problems.

Usually, pH isn't a problem with organic grows. Just make sure you water to runoff whenever you water. Make sure the soil is pretty dry before you do.

Ok i will move it up , and watch for change ,

 

[JimmyJackCorn]

Organic soils have a tendency to break down and make soils acidicy .you can't can't say organic soils don't change ph.its does sometimes when watering.theres tons of articles.but yes a run off test will prove it

I grow organic and monitor my pH, especially the tap water (in case the utility had to make a change). With a good setup, it's usually not a problem.

 

[2pacforever]

I grow organic and monitor my pH, especially the tap water (in case the utility had to make a change). With a good setup, it's usually not a problem.

I understand.every situation is different.different soils .i been growing for 10 years and learned a lot through time.thats why run offs and ppm tests are so important.

 

[JimmyJackCorn]

I’m just using soil from a local garden center , my light is a 600watt hps digital ,12-12 , in a 80x80x1.8 lights around 18” away temps around 25-28 in the day and 14 at night , humidity is low around 14 , I’m using advanced nutritions and only feed half strength twice,

I almost missed the RH part of your response. Mine sits at 20% when its MF cold, like right now (-20dF), but my plant is healthy. It's growing kinda slow and sucks water like none other, but humidity can get so low that the little-water-pump-a-plant-is just cannot keep up.

edit: also, plants need less nutrients when the RH is low. As plants suck more water, they suck all the nutrients with it. It's easier to run into nutrient problems at that point.

Did the RH just recently/suddenly drop that low?

 

[Rich11122]

I almost missed the RH part of your response. Mine sits at 20% when its MF cold, like right now (-20dF), but my plant is healthy. It's growing kinda slow and sucks water like none other, but humidity can get so low that the little-water-pump-a-plant-is just cannot keep up.

edit: also, plants need less nutrients when the RH is low. As plants suck more water, they suck all the nutrients with it. It's easier to run into nutrient problems at that point.

Did the RH just recently/suddenly drop that low?

Well I’m new to this , where should I be putting my thermal pro ? I get different readings in different places

 

[JimmyJackCorn]

Well I’m new to this , where should I be putting my thermal pro ? I get different readings in different places

I think the best place is as close as you can get to the top of your highest cola under the light, essentially about the level of the top of your canopy. Lots of folks use a moisture meter to monitor soil conditions as well. That's on my wish list.

edit: I've heard that if you have a large canopy that covers a whole enclosed area, you can get unusually high humidity between the soil and canopy, too, FWIW.

 

[Rich11122]

I think the best place is as close as you can get to the top of your highest cola under the light, essentially about the level of the top of your canopy. Lots of folks use a moisture meter to monitor soil conditions as well. That's on my wish list.

edit: I've heard that if you have a large canopy that covers a whole enclosed area, you can get unusually high humidity between the soil and canopy, too, FWIW.

Ok thanks I’ve got a moisture meter , shows dry the 1st few inches then show moist to wet right down

 

[JimmyJackCorn]

Based on what I've seen here and my limited knowledge, if I were you I would let the soil dry out some and try to get the RH up. When I do water again, I'd water to runoff. I might back off nutes, especially while the RH is low (the leaves, especially the lower fans, are very dark green).

 

[Rich11122]

Based on what I've seen here and my limited knowledge, if I were you I would let the soil dry out some and try to get the RH up. When I do water again, I'd water to runoff. I might back off nutes, especially while the RH is low (the leaves, especially the lower fans, are very dark green).
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What does dark green leafs mean ?

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Ok thanks I’ve got a moisture meter , shows dry the 1st few inches then show moist to wet right down

If it's one of those 3-in-1 meters throw it in the trash. They are notoriously unreliable.