Autos have the potential to be bigger yeilders than photos.

[Autofire]

It's also worth noting that these results will be achieved equally well starting the seedlings on a 12/12 cycle from day 1. So, it kind of disputes what some of you are saying.

if it can be done by going 12/12 from day 1 why do you vege for 3 weeks?

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

So everything you've run took the same time ego finish flowering?

No. That is more strain dependent and an element of personal preference. I like to flower a little longer than most to get nice and ripe flowers. 10 to 11 weeks for most hybrids and up to 12 weeks for longer ones. But on average, I would say 72 to 73 days of 12/12 plus the initial 21 to 24 days so around 95 days is a good estimate for me for each cycle.

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

if it can be done by going 12/12 from day 1 why do you vege for 3 weeks?

It's a little more forgiving. If the seedlings struggle with salty coco, for example, I have a little bit of a buffer and I'm in control.

 

[Star Dog]

I do them all the same, mostly. Seed in paper towel. 21 to 24 days later, 12/12. I trigger 12/12 when they are maybe 4 inches tall and I get this...every time. Different strains obviously have very different flower structure, but you'll get the point:

(Just some random shots taken from my journals)

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Very interesting, I normally veg for 3/4 weeks I've read that that the onset of budding can delayed without vegging, have you ever encountered anything out of the ordinary using your 1st day 12/12 method?

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Very interesting, I normally veg for 3/4 weeks I've read that that the onset of budding can delayed with veg, have you ever encountered anything out of the ordinary using your method?

Nope, none.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Did you mainline this plant?

LST only.

 

[Star Dog]

Nope, none.

Thanks you that's great to know, I'll need to give that a try.

 

[Autofire]

No. That is more strain dependent and an element of personal preference. I like to flower a little longer than most to get nice and ripe flowers. 10 to 11 weeks for most hybrids and up to 12 weeks for longer ones. But on average, I would say 72 to 73 days of 12/12 plus the initial 21 to 24 days so around 95 days is a good estimate for me for each cycle.

That's pretty much the same as most autos. They are very rarely done in under 80 days.

The way you grow obviously works very well bro, I like your style. But I think the OP has a point, if we are talking per plant autos do have the potential to yield more than a photo over a set number of days.

Look at it like this. Autos are all started off as photos, then the breeders took the recessive autoflowering trait from the ruderalis and added it to the photo plant enabling it to grow, absorb light and uptake nutrient for 18 hours a day for its whole life cycle instead of needing to be reduced to 12 for flowering. It makes logical sense that it would grow faster than the photoperiod plant

 

[Autofire]

LST only.

The base stem on that fucker is massive

 

[Nutty sKunK]

Then you've clearly never looked at my work.

Seems like there’s a lot to go through. I’ve wanted to try 12/12 from seed.

but never knew photos could go from preflowers to ripe buds in 30ish days.

This is exactly 30 days difference when it was 36 days old.

 

[Autofire]

Seems like there’s a lot to go through. I’ve wanted to try 12/12 from seed.

but never knew photos could go from preflowers to ripe buds in 30ish days.

This is exactly 30 days difference when it was 36 days old.

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Which strain was that mate?

Those yellowing tips look like slight K deficiency.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

The base stem on that fucker is massive

Yeah she got chunky.

 

[Autofire]

Yeah nice job bro. What did she bring to the bowl? I'm thinking at least 10 Oscars

 

[Nutty sKunK]

Which strain was that mate?

Those yellowing tips look like slight K deficiency.

GSC from fastbuds. Consistently been ready around the 70 day mark.

Actually the opposite. Slight nute burn from the lights being too close.

K def starts on the lower leaves but excesses show on the newest growth.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Yeah nice job bro. What did she bring to the bowl? I'm thinking at least 10 Oscars

Not sure. She's still drying.

 

[Autofire]

Do you think silica makes any diff

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Do you think silica makes any difference to the stem size? That's one of the things they say that it does. I wouldn't know cause I've never grown without it.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Do you think silica makes any diff

Do you think silica makes any difference to the stem size? That's one of the things they say that it does. I wouldn't know cause I've never grown without it.

I've noticed a difference in stem strength. Outer walls and overall rigidity. The supercrops I've made seem to heal over in better knuckles but that may not be related. Nice smooth solid structures.

 

[insomnia65]

Autos yield more

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Autos yield more

 

[bk78]

I've noticed a difference in stem strength. Outer walls and overall rigidity. The supercrops I've made seem to heal over in better knuckles but that may not be related. Nice smooth solid structures.

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So you noticed a difference using silica from the same clones you grew last round not using silica?