Second stimulus soon?

MICHI-CAN

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More fun distracting obliviously un informed fools like you from distracting and dividing for a pay check from PUTIN. Damn trolls in maga hats and wrapped in flags hiding behind a screen. I've never lost an election. Only never given an honest choice. Learn some true history and approach me with actual facts. In the mean time I will just continue to indulge myself in your stupidity. DAMN SHEEP!!

Bored huh??
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DaFreak

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Without exploitation and dishonesty there is no American dream.
Come on, you don't believe that for a second. How did the guy who started a successful business through hard work and smarts break your code? I think I read 1 in 30 Americans are millionaires. Numbers and reality aren't on your side. But that example you give, if you worked that hard for that long I can't believe you would not have achieved a certain level of success.
 

Fogdog

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Since a little over 50% owns stocks I think most people would care if the market collapsed. Rich people are not the problem. Just need to tax them right. Most of my friends are fine with higher taxes but they aren’t campaigner for them either.
Twinks for the rich like you are almost as much the problem as rich people are.
They are the reason why this country is in crisis. During the debates, Trump said something that caused me to sit up and take notice.

The subject was about SCOTUS judge appointment. He and his Republicans refused to seat Garland on the SCOTUS -- saying "because it was an election year" and "let the voters choose" -- then the in 2020, another election year, they turned around to seat a radical right religious and anti-abortion activist judge.

When asked why they did that, Trump replied "because we won".

So, how many times has trickle down economics been tried? Three times, I think. Every time, it caused huge expansion of the deficit and none of the benefits that Republicans said would come trickling down to the minions.

Well, we won and we are going to do what we want, so fxxxk off.
 

Fogdog

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More fun distracting obliviously un informed fools like you from distracting and dividing for a pay check from PUTIN. Damn trolls in maga hats and wrapped in flags hiding behind a screen. I've never lost an election. Only never given an honest choice. Learn some true history and approach me with actual facts. In the mean time I will just continue to indulge myself in your stupidity. DAMN SHEEP!!

Bored huh??
I've read little that was true and much that was belief in your posts.

I get that you are bent over how the US isn't living up to your expectations. A lot of white men are that way. It's not their fault (much), it's the entitlement they were given when being born.

So, tell me, which country in this world meets your expectations? Tell us of one country that is able to defend itself, has a thriving population and has a social-political system that meets your expectations.
 

MICHI-CAN

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Come on, you don't believe that for a second. How did the guy who started a successful business through hard work and smarts break your code? I think I read 1 in 30 Americans are millionaires. Numbers and reality aren't on your side. But that example you give, if you worked that hard for that long I can't believe you would not have achieved a certain level of success.
Helps if your numbers are real. 1 in 30?? I and you know how many people? And I honestly know 2 multi millionaires. Aunt and uncle and a German lottery winner on my wife's side. My relative married into old money and they basically ripped people off for mad money as raw steel brokers and questionable jewelry sales. Other was pure luck. And neither ever swept a floor. Please share your source.
 

MICHI-CAN

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I've read little that was true and much that was belief in your posts.

I get that you are bent over how the US isn't living up to your expectations. A lot of white men are that way. It's not their fault (much), it's the entitlement they were given when being born.

So, tell me, which country in this world meets your expectations? Tell us of one country that is able to defend itself, has a thriving population and has a social-political system that meets your expectations.
Sweden. Norway. Once again you are off topic. And un educated on your talking points. Can you tell me my eye color to substantiate your infinite knowledge of myself and beliefs?

Again. Please Cease and decist. You sabotage the very thing you claim to represent. All for one or none for all. IDIOT!!
 

mooray

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Caused me to google. Apparently there are a lot of millionaires. Of course the percentage varies quite a bit depending on the criteria.
 

MICHI-CAN

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You're referring to income inequality to suggest that's it's zero sum?
Related. But actual wealth and likely hood of increasing it is more inheritance or windfall,(lottery). Not pulling the ole boot straps,(physics defying falisy"Rep").

My point is turn the electronics off. Honestly consider what you resent. Then why? Truth is we are being used and held back with the divisive talking points. Our dream is but an ever moving carrot.
 

PJ Diaz

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Helps if your numbers are real. 1 in 30?? I and you know how many people? And I honestly know 2 multi millionaires. Aunt and uncle and a German lottery winner on my wife's side. My relative married into old money and they basically ripped people off for mad money as raw steel brokers and questionable jewelry sales. Other was pure luck. And neither ever swept a floor. Please share your source.
What does it mean to be a millionaire these days anyway, $1mil in assets? In the county I live in, technically the average Joe who bought a home 30 years ago, and has paid off the mortgage is a millionaire.

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MICHI-CAN

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I voted for Biden, but I believe you are going to be gravely disappointed when things don’t go the way you think they will.
How did you not see it coming? Corporate politics since "Tricky Dick". And true base was the Federal Reserve's passing. Do some learning. Net suggests the paid distractions. Not the truth.
 

DaFreak

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Helps if your numbers are real. 1 in 30?? I and you know how many people? And I honestly know 2 multi millionaires. Aunt and uncle and a German lottery winner on my wife's side. My relative married into old money and they basically ripped people off for mad money as raw steel brokers and questionable jewelry sales. Other was pure luck. And neither ever swept a floor. Please share your source.
“A new survey has found that there are 11.8 million households which have a net worth of $1 million. That is equal to 3% of the United States entire population” you can google it if you want the source, I read it at another source though, forget where. I know about 15 millionaires. Most in real estate, some manufacturing, some scientists, car dealers, dentists etc. majority are really nice guys who have worked hard and are pillars of their community and amazing human beings who love and care for their fellow men. You would look at their cars and call them enemy though.
 

mooray

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Related. But actual wealth and likely hood of increasing it is more inheritance or windfall,(lottery). Not pulling the ole boot straps,(physics defying falisy"Rep").

My point is turn the electronics off. Honestly consider what you resent. Then why? Truth is we are being used and held back with the divisive talking points. Our dream is but an ever moving carrot.
In reverse...

The carrot is fine. That's actually hard-coded into our genetics, else we'd just lay around eating, pooping and waiting to die.

I'm not gonna suggest that it's binary, but there's definitely part of me that doesn't that "we are being used and held back with the divisive talking points", because if we're so dumb that we're basically falling for every shiny Nigerian Prince scam out there, then maybe we deserve it.

I couldn't say what the bulk of the circumstances are being the rise in millionaires, but I do know that the envious side of me would prefer to believe it's windfall related. I think tech fanaticism in nonsense industries plays a role.
 

MICHI-CAN

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What does it mean to be a millionaire these days anyway, $1mil in assets? In the county I live in, technically the average Joe who bought a home 30 years ago, and has paid off the mortgage is a millionaire.

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In my day it was something. Just bumm now. Housing prices are a reflection of interest profits for vulture capitalist HG TV, Flip This House, many more and the big banks.
 

Fogdog

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Sweden. Norway. Once again you are off topic. And un educated on your talking points. Can you tell me my eye color to substantiate your infinite knowledge of myself and beliefs?

Again. Please Cease and decist. You sabotage the very thing you claim to represent. All for one or none for all. IDIOT!!
No argument that the US should copy much of what Sweden and Denmark already have in their social systems.

The thing is, it's not going to happen in the US right away. It's simply not. Bernie, for example would have resulted in four more years of Trump. You do realize that in order to make any progress toward what you (and I) prefer, we have to win elections.

When the so-called "Progressives" start winning elections in districts that are contested by Republicans then they will have arrived. At the center.
 

MICHI-CAN

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In reverse...

The carrot is fine. That's actually hard-coded into our genetics, else we'd just lay around eating, pooping and waiting to die.

I'm not gonna suggest that it's binary, but there's definitely part of me that doesn't that "we are being used and held back with the divisive talking points", because if we're so dumb that we're basically falling for every shiny Nigerian Prince scam out there, then maybe we deserve it.

I couldn't say what the bulk of the circumstances are being the rise in millionaires, but I do know that the envious side of me would prefer to believe it's windfall related. I think tech fanaticism in nonsense industries plays a role.
Using my personal life for an actual point of view. I started a custom painting and refinishing business. Praised and recommended for my work. And my recipient was always right. The legal operating costs were well beyond any fair price for my labor. Then add up front materials, equipment and payroll for 2. It is almost impossible to build an empire from working class stock with morals today.
 

MICHI-CAN

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No argument that the US should copy much of what Sweden and Denmark already have in their social systems.

The thing is, it's not going to happen in the US right away. It's simply not. Bernie, for example would have resulted in four more years of Trump. You do realize that in order to make any progress toward what you (and I) prefer, we have to win elections.

When the so-called "Progressives" start winning elections in districts that are contested by Republicans then they will have arrived. At the center.
I have not seen this side of you. Wow. I'm for working for my happiness and security. Not happy with current model. Web lists me as rep. LMAO. MI. Non declared. Lone wolf. I don't do labels thing. Still ask you do some history brush up. And these cycles never fail like our short term memories.
 
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