Question about urea???

Allbr

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Is the urea (DEF) we put in our diesel truck the same urea we feed our plants with?? From my research I can't find any difference
 

Rob Roy

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Is the urea (DEF) we put in our diesel truck the same urea we feed our plants with?? From my research I can't find any difference

That's a good question, I'm hoping some sciencey person comes along and answers that.

If you use diesel urea on your plants and it harms them, you might get pissed. Which reminds me...I suggest a morning squirt into a rinsed gallon milk jug, then filling the jug with decent water and using that as a quick nitrogen boost. Your plants will like it, and big fertilizer companies will be pissed.
I know, I know, ewwww, but it works!
 

Allbr

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That's a good question, I'm hoping some sciencey person comes along and answers that.

If you use diesel urea on your plants and it harms them, you might get pissed. Which reminds me...I suggest a morning squirt into a rinsed gallon milk jug, then filling the jug with decent water and using that as a quick nitrogen boost. Your plants will like it, and big fertilizer companies will be pissed.
I know, I know, ewwww, but it works!
Yes I agree pee does work, I haul raw urea to farms and they use it in the fields but I also haul the same urea to a factory that makes def for our trucks. That's why I'm thinking is the same thing
 

Northwood

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big fertilizer companies will be pissed
Urea for agricultural use is a pretty cheap form of N, going for about 50 cents a pound right now. I don't think there are primary urea producers that specialize in one particular end-use. It's a commodity. Some is destined for use in industrial applications, some for agriculture, some ends up in DEF. I'm not convinced that repurposed DEF would be cheaper than the urea for agriculture because the price of both is largely determined second-by-second by whatever price traders decide the futures should be worth.
 

Rob Roy

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Urea for agricultural use is a pretty cheap form of N, going for about 50 cents a pound right now. I don't think there are primary urea producers that specialize in one particular end-use. It's a commodity. Some is destined for use in industrial applications, some for agriculture, some ends up in DEF. I'm not convinced that repurposed DEF would be cheaper than the urea for agriculture because the price of both is largely determined second-by-second by whatever price traders decide the futures should be worth.

Interesting. I didn't know what the price of bulk urea was.

I suppose choices of urea sourcing etc. might be a matter of the scale of the application. I contend that most small scale growers produce enough urea to "brew their own". While it is seen as somehow "unclean" and icky, urea production if done cleanly (without unwanted debris and contaminants) is an area of growth opportunity. People pee daily, it's an untapped resource and eventually home brewed urea will (re) gain acceptance.

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Allbr

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Interesting. I didn't know what the price of bulk urea was.

I suppose choices of urea sourcing etc. might be a matter of the scale of the application. I contend that most small scale growers produce enough urea to "brew their own". While it is seen as somehow "unclean" and icky, urea production if done cleanly (without unwanted debris and contaminants) is an area of growth opportunity. People pee daily, it's an untapped resource and eventually home brewed urea will (re) gain acceptance.

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How would they ""brew their own"" would they source it from animal urine??
 
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