What’s causing them to droop?

Homegrown Hero

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Sound in principle. If only FF had any principles.
I now avoid. But I suggest a similar mix to this if you honestly want water and watch. The amendments are Boogie brew tea"dry", boogie black and Coast of maine lobster kelp fert.

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For sure. I don’t use anything indoors but pro mix, GH flora nova series, flora blend and cal-mag. Outdoors I use a blend of Sea Soil, compost and pro mix. Sea Soil may be a local product, it’s a natural fish fertilized soil. This ff stuff has always been too hot for my liking
 

MICHI-CAN

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For sure. I don’t use anything indoors but pro mix, GH flora nova series, flora blend and cal-mag. Outdoors I use a blend of Sea Soil, compost and pro mix. Sea Soil may be a local product, it’s a natural fish fertilized soil. This ff stuff has always been too hot for my liking
I am fortunate to live here. Dairy Doo has been phenomenal. And the generic clones I've helped mix are almost identical. I swore by FF for years. And then it just SUCKED! Just trying to stay cheap, efficient and organic now. Happiest grows of my few decades. LOL.
 

getogrow

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It's not drooping from light hes got a 150 watts on it currently I'd run it at the full 300
I am 100% sure its too much light. watts are almost absolete with the good led diodes. He can back off the food and maybe balance things out a bit but the cure is to raise the light way up.
droopy , moist plants are almost always found paired with newer style leds. Its too much light for his environment.
 

getogrow

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I am assuming this grow space is about 2'x4' ? WITH brand new super white walls. I am 100% its too much light. Not one doubt in my mind. Raise the light to 36" and you will see them raise up in 2 days. Maybe overnight.
 

Lowkeygardener

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I am assuming this grow space is about 2'x4' ? WITH brand new super white walls. I am 100% its too much light. Not one doubt in my mind. Raise the light to 36" and you will see them raise up in 2 days. Maybe overnight.
I got them about 30 inches away now. That’s as far as I could go with my current hangers. Gonna get new hangers so I can raise it all the way up. I’ll be scrogging this grow at about a foot above soil level to really keep them down. You think this will continue to be a problem when I’m in flowering and the stretch up? I was hoping to eventually blast them at 100% at around 12-16”
 

getogrow

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Raise your temps - root mass that stay too cool slows growth.

Why distilled too ?
This is my only recommendation. keep it around 80-85 ish under them leds.

I dont think you will be able to go 100% at 12" on those girls but thats a good thing. too much light is better then not enough. Can you dim it down?

Im starting to hit the "fuck fox farm" train my damn self. FFOF went from good for everyone to good for pros to ok for pros to junk. straight shit. I doubt they even know whats in it anymore. I dont know what happened to the company but their soil is giving me a headache.
 

roboquaid

Active Member
Hi mate did you ever find out what was going on? I'm having similar issues, I'm growing with 2x Mars hydro ts 3000 in a 8x4 tent.
To me it looks like overwatering but it's not because I pulled some out into pots and left the rest in nft trays.
What I'm thinking now is that the transpiration rates under led lights is much different from hps because of the infrared spectrum and heat.
So if the water has nowhere to go once it gets sucked up through the roots then the plant would be like drowning/overwatering?.
Let me know if this makes sense and if you ever found a solution to the problem.
Thanks
 
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