Best organic medium for autos

[CarlBrutananadilewski]

So I am seeing a really good soil for auto flowers is a soil by Fox farm called strawberry fields and then im being told to take out a cup, exactly one solo cup of happy frog to let the auto flowers grow in that as long as possible and then put it in the strawberry fields which is in a 7 gallon smart pot.
What I am really looking for is a soil or medium that I can just put the seed in and go from there I don't want to do any transplanting if I can help it with an autoflower.
what organic mediums do you guys recommend for auto flowers and is the living soil for auto flowers or photos a good idea? It would be so nice to just be able to have to water your plant and that's it.

 

[Mattmaximus]

My mate only uses eco thrive living soil, has done autos a few times and had great results. He said the soil gets better once it’s been used 3/4 times. He only feeds using the eco thrive microbe tea, uses life cycle at the end of each cycle and top dresses with it a couple times through out the grow. He also plants clover and some other bits in the pots as well having a mulch layer possibly some sort barley mix not sure exactly I can’t remember and covers it all with straw. He uses tap water but dechlorinates it’s first.

 

[insomnia65]

My mate only uses eco thrive living soil, has done autos a few times and had great results. He said the soil gets better once it’s been used 3/4 times. He only feeds using the eco thrive microbe tea, uses life cycle at the end of each cycle and top dresses with it a couple times through out the grow. He also plants clover and some other bits in the pots as well having a mulch layer possibly some sort barley mix not sure exactly I can’t remember and covers it all with straw. He uses tap water but dechlorinates it’s first.

Snap to everything lol.
I either leave the water out for a few days or add Vitamin C to dechlorinate it. Rain water I prefer but can't always get it.

With Ecothrive you could just water it and that's it.

 

[CarlBrutananadilewski]

My mate only uses eco thrive living soil, has done autos a few times and had great results. He said the soil gets better once it’s been used 3/4 times. He only feeds using the eco thrive microbe tea, uses life cycle at the end of each cycle and top dresses with it a couple times through out the grow. He also plants clover and some other bits in the pots as well having a mulch layer possibly some sort barley mix not sure exactly I can’t remember and covers it all with straw. He uses tap water but dechlorinates it’s first.

I'll have to check that out I've heard good things about that company and it seems like they might be tailored a little more towards Auto flowers too I'm just really looking for something that I can just water and hopefully that's it but I know that's a ridiculous idea eventually the plan will show some sort of defs. I'll have to step in

 

[insomnia65]

I'll have to check that out I've heard good things about that company and it seems like they might be tailored a little more towards Auto flowers too I'm just really looking for something that I can just water and hopefully that's it but I know that's a ridiculous idea eventually the plan will show some sort of defs. I'll have to step in

It is not a ridiculous idea.

 

[Igotsuperskunk]

I'll have to check that out I've heard good things about that company and it seems like they might be tailored a little more towards Auto flowers too I'm just really looking for something that I can just water and hopefully that's it but I know that's a ridiculous idea eventually the plan will show some sort of defs. I'll have to step in

I agreed it's NOT ridiculous. I am currently in the same boat and kinda realizing that if I go with anything less than 7 gallon pots I will probably have to at the least top dress and use tea a few times as flowering ramps up. That being said I think planting the seed directly in the final pot with a layering of a balanced compost and organic soil mix (hot then cooled) at the bottom 1/3 then just organic soil in the middle 1/3 and airy potting soil in the seed planting area as well as using myco like 'great white' to inoculate the germinated seeds as you plant in it will result in the best bet for a minimal priced no transplant, water only pre no till approach. Water only at least until flower depending on pot size and genetics. You can also adjust those compost/organic/potting soil mixes before hand to better match the needs of your genetics or your want for longevity. But like I said from what I can tell without goin 7 gallon pot or above you will probably have to tea and topdress or (recharge) as a minimum come flowering time. Which is fine by me compared to constant measuring and monitoring of nutrient regiments etc. Also the added benefits of a living soil are too numerous to list but so worth looking into for their natural ipm and built in resistances.

 

[go go kid]

does your local skip/tip make its own brand of soil with all the green waste? i found the perfect soil att my local tip, it has the added advantage of being organic, so you may wish to check out your local tip

 

[CarlBrutananadilewski]

I agreed it's NOT ridiculous. I am currently in the same boat and kinda realizing that if I go with anything less than 7 gallon pots I will probably have to at the least top dress and use tea a few times as flowering ramps up. That being said I think planting the seed directly in the final pot with a layering of a balanced compost and organic soil mix (hot then cooled) at the bottom 1/3 then just organic soil in the middle 1/3 and airy potting soil in the seed planting area as well as using myco like 'great white' to inoculate the germinated seeds as you plant in it will result in the best bet for a minimal priced no transplant, water only pre no till approach. Water only at least until flower depending on pot size and genetics. You can also adjust those compost/organic/potting soil mixes before hand to better match the needs of your genetics or your want for longevity. But like I said from what I can tell without goin 7 gallon pot or above you will probably have to tea and topdress or (recharge) as a minimum come flowering time. Which is fine by me compared to constant measuring and monitoring of nutrient regiments etc. Also the added benefits of a living soil are too numerous to list but so worth looking into for their natural ipm and built in resistances.

O wow good to know I'm debating 10 gal smart pots

 

[living gardening]

I am running a 4x4 and had four 15 gal and a 5gal pail and that was impossible to move to do anything and the plants eventually got too big for my air movement set up. I will say, they never ran out of room though. I have one Amnesia Auto Fem goin in one right now about a week old and I am popping a 2fast4buds Chem Dawg Auto should hit the soil today. but in my fifteen gallon pots. Lots of cover in those!! The firstones are the pots that are still in rotation. They have Daikon, clover, peas, fenugreek, and a lot more. The last picis of super hot pepper (unknown variety) that my friend told me I would have a hard time with. With fulvic acid, yes you too can make your friends eat a slice of humble pie...I've had to clip flowers off already.

 

[insomnia65]

I am running a 4x4 and had four 15 gal and a 5gal pail and that was impossible to move to do anything and the plants eventually got too big for my air movement set up. I will say, they never ran out of room though. I have one Amnesia Auto Fem goin in one right now about a week old and I am popping a 2fast4buds Chem Dawg Auto should hit the soil today. but in my fifteen gallon pots. Lots of cover in those!! View attachment 4887823View attachment 4887824View attachment 4887825View attachment 4887826View attachment 4887827 The firstones are the pots that are still in rotation. They have Daikon, clover, peas, fenugreek, and a lot more. The last picis of super hot pepper (unknown variety) that my friend told me I would have a hard time with. With fulvic acid, yes you too can make your friends eat a slice of humble pie...I've had to clip flowers off already.

Sorry OP, but what's that you have your thumb on in the photo?

 

[DoobieDoobs]

The best organic medium, I would like to think is the middle of a valley, close to the lake, sun bath, warm weather with a cool breeze, seeded in a nutrient rich environment where the little and the big maintain an eternal cycle of motivated grow.

 

[living gardening]

Sorry OP, but what's that you have your thumb on in the photo?

It is a daikon radish. They get freaking huge if you have the space. You use them in asian cooking mostly. They can be kinda spicy. They are also sold commercially under the term "Tillage Radish" due to the fact they can grow over two foot long and four inches across. Used in helping soil compaction issues, deer like em too. I'll let them rot in place. They will smell but the P and K they will deposit will be all good. Also soil aeration and structure will result longer term.
I planted anything that I could eat. If your plant don't make it, munch on these nice sweet peas . . . and they fixed a bunch of N too. A lot was planted to get diverse cover and a good rhizosphere going. It really cuts water needs and I never have run off.

 

[Tht_Blk_Guy27]

Snap to everything lol.
I either leave the water out for a few days or add Vitamin C to dechlorinate it. Rain water I prefer but can't always get it.

With Ecothrive you could just water it and that's it.

id skip the vitamin C since it only dechlorinates but if it works for you then good on you! To my knowledge it doesn't hit that chloramine (most places have chloramine in the water cause it last forever longer than chlorine) id recommend using fritz ACCR or some type of aquarium fish safe product used to purify water. they are cheap and treat a lot of water for infinitesimally small dosages

 

[insomnia65]

It is a daikon radish. They get freaking huge if you have the space. You use them in asian cooking mostly. They can be kinda spicy. They are also sold commercially under the term "Tillage Radish" due to the fact they can grow over two foot long and four inches across. Used in helping soil compaction issues, deer like em too. I'll let them rot in place. They will smell but the P and K they will deposit will be all good. Also soil aeration and structure will result longer term.
I planted anything that I could eat. If your plant don't make it, munch on these nice sweet peas . . . and they fixed a bunch of N too. A lot was planted to get diverse cover and a good rhizosphere going. It really cuts water needs and I never have run off.

Thank you,excellent.

 

[CarlBrutananadilewski]

I am running a 4x4 and had four 15 gal and a 5gal pail and that was impossible to move to do anything and the plants eventually got too big for my air movement set up. I will say, they never ran out of room though. I have one Amnesia Auto Fem goin in one right now about a week old and I am popping a 2fast4buds Chem Dawg Auto should hit the soil today. but in my fifteen gallon pots. Lots of cover in those!! View attachment 4887823View attachment 4887824View attachment 4887825View attachment 4887826View attachment 4887827 The firstones are the pots that are still in rotation. They have Daikon, clover, peas, fenugreek, and a lot more. The last picis of super hot pepper (unknown variety) that my friend told me I would have a hard time with. With fulvic acid, yes you too can make your friends eat a slice of humble pie...I've had to clip flowers off already.

I would love to see that Kim dog Auto in action please take whatever pictures you can of that grow and that information would totally be useful to me I live in Arizona so I have to run autos if I run outdoors but just to see what to expect from a chem dog Auto would be awesome one of the seeds I'm looking to get is going to be a chem dog for sure

 

[living gardening]

I would love to see that Kim dog Auto in action please take whatever pictures you can of that grow and that information would totally be useful to me I live in Arizona so I have to run autos if I run outdoors but just to see what to expect from a chem dog Auto would be awesome one of the seeds I'm looking to get is going to be a chem dog for sure

It was having issues with emergence. The shell seems quite hard and I tried to gently crack it since it has a taproot. It hadn't up righted itself yet. Also the Amnesia Gold Auto by Pyramid sprouted and then never emerged after planting into the soil. Same with Pyramid WW Auto.
I am a novice when it comes to autos. I can't say I killed them, but I can't rule it out. I sprouted in fulvic water and then let them sprout just before putting them into the soil with VAM Bio AG (Mico powder).

 

[living gardening]

So I just removed the 2fast4buds chem dawg auto. This is the third one that has died because it couldn't get rid of the shell. I tried helping two of them, to no avail. I'm not real impressed with this whole Auto craze. I prefer the higher yield of a photo anyways. And to all those that would say, why didn't you crack it or sand the edges . . . I should not have to assist nature. We choose to, but you have an obviously over looked part of the puzzle missing if the damn thing can't even sprout and grow on its own.

 

[CarlBrutananadilewski]

It was having issues with emergence. The shell seems quite hard and I tried to gently crack it since it has a taproot. It hadn't up righted itself yet. Also the Amnesia Gold Auto by Pyramid sprouted and then never emerged after planting into the soil. Same with Pyramid WW Auto.
I am a novice when it comes to autos. I can't say I killed them, but I can't rule it out. I sprouted in fulvic water and then let them sprout just before putting them into the soil with VAM Bio AG (Mico powder).

I've had good luck with pyramid seeds but I've never tried their autos

 

[CarlBrutananadilewski]

So I just removed the 2fast4buds chem dawg auto. This is the third one that has died because it couldn't get rid of the shell. I tried helping two of them, to no avail. I'm not real impressed with this whole Auto craze. I prefer the higher yield of a photo anyways. And to all those that would say, why didn't you crack it or sand the edges . . . I should not have to assist nature. We choose to, but you have an obviously over looked part of the puzzle missing if the damn thing can't even sprout and grow on its own.

The only way I could see using autos is if you were just a really avid gardener and you know you're date and time.com area and you can grow them outside if you're out of sync or for a very stealthy grow I guess they could help but yes photo. Are the way to go so far I think they're just not quite up to par with photos it's like LEDs I wanted to believe 5 years ago they were good I bought a Mars hydro 900 or 600 series and lights started going out now I'm getting the bug to buy another one cuz I think they've come a long way but who knows sorry about the ramble

 

[living gardening]

I bit the bullet and bought a Panthr X 2. What a light.
I learned with guns, "buy once, cry once". Spend your money on something of quality and it will pay for itself. I'd love to run HPS but they would cost me too much. I had an old switchable ballast LED 250w (sungrow) and it cost 30 bones a mo to run 24/7 (I run 18/6 now).
LED is a must for affordability.
Fans and Humidity equipment also cost a crap ton to run.