Should nutrients (ppm) be increased with Co2 enrichement?

[Dr. Who]

7% calcium derived from looks like calcium nitrate

NEVER have I been a fan of Cal nitrate use. The nutrient maker is short cutting better N sources for more available Ca.

The thing is? Cal Carbonate makes a better Ca source for both the pH and the plant at the same time.

Up your Mg.... Mg sulfate at a rate of 5ml per gallon of feed works....

I use a home made product.
8TBL of organic Epson Salts
1 1/2 tsp of DARK brown sugar

to 1 gallon of RO water - Mix well and use at 5ml per gallon of feed

 

[Laughinggrass420]

NEVER have I been a fan of Cal nitrate use. The nutrient maker is short cutting better N sources for more available Ca.

The thing is? Cal Carbonate makes a better Ca source for both the pH and the plant at the same time.

Up your Mg.... Mg sulfate at a rate of 5ml per gallon of feed works....

I use a home made product.
8TBL of organic Epson Salts
1 1/2 tsp of DARK brown sugar

to 1 gallon of RO water - Mix well and use at 5ml per gallon of feed

Very interesting my friend I’m going to have to do some reading on this I’ve had a lot of success with Laura flex in the past what if they’re cutting corners I don’t know this is the info that I love to hear about though can I do some research is there a line of nutrients that you back and are confident and happy with and Coco

 

[Laughinggrass420]

NEVER have I been a fan of Cal nitrate use. The nutrient maker is short cutting better N sources for more available Ca.

The thing is? Cal Carbonate makes a better Ca source for both the pH and the plant at the same time.

Up your Mg.... Mg sulfate at a rate of 5ml per gallon of feed works....

I use a home made product.
8TBL of organic Epson Salts
1 1/2 tsp of DARK brown sugar

to 1 gallon of RO water - Mix well and use at 5ml per gallon of feed

So you agree that I should up my mag? Because that’s what I did by reducing ca and adding mag amp + base. Hopefully I will see things get better

 

[Laughinggrass420]

NEVER have I been a fan of Cal nitrate use. The nutrient maker is short cutting better N sources for more available Ca.

The thing is? Cal Carbonate makes a better Ca source for both the pH and the plant at the same time.

Up your Mg.... Mg sulfate at a rate of 5ml per gallon of feed works....

I use a home made product.
8TBL of organic Epson Salts
1 1/2 tsp of DARK brown sugar

to 1 gallon of RO water - Mix well and use at 5ml per gallon of feed

Potassium def possibly ?
Or you think still camg

At this point guess could be a few things off. Such a fucked up cycle ‍

 

[Dr. Who]

No, not P def.

How close do you hold pH?
In any hydro situation - set it to 5.7 - 5.8 and let it ride up to 6.1 - 6.2 and then reset...

The "swing" is important to plants. Both in the ground and in hydro.

Soil self regulates pH..... Unless you screw with it by use of certain nutrient formulations. (Some organic based formula's will create at real drop in the feed mix pH. Simply set it to 6.5 for veg and 6.7 for bloom and feed away.

So what is your media?
How often do you water it if soil?
How often for any type of ebb system? - How many cycles a day and for how long?
What temps are the roots sitting in?

All this EC measurement shit is meaningless...
Need to know the NPK value of each feeding component used...I can run values from there...

 

[Dr. Who]

At this point guess could be a few things off. Such a fucked up cycle ‍

Explain: "Fucked up cycle"

 

[Laughinggrass420]

No, not P def.

How close do you hold pH?
In any hydro situation - set it to 5.7 - 5.8 and let it ride up to 6.1 - 6.2 and then reset...

The "swing" is important to plants. Both in the ground and in hydro.

Soil self regulates pH..... Unless you screw with it by use of certain nutrient formulations. (Some organic based formula's will create at real drop in the feed mix pH. Simply set it to 6.5 for veg and 6.7 for bloom and feed away.

So what is your media?
How often do you water it if soil?
How often for any type of ebb system? - How many cycles a day and for how long?
What temps are the roots sitting in?

All this EC measurement shit is meaningless...
Need to know the NPK value of each feeding component used...I can run values from there...

6-17-19
My ph swings exactly like you said 5.7-6.1
Coco in 4 gallons
They get watered 1x daily to significant run off.
Roots temp I’ll have to check with my thermal gun

When I say fucked up cycle I mean fucked up cycle I’ve run flora flex for almost two years and had killer crops doing essentially what I’m doing now. Somewhere along the line I lost track of this strains requirements. It is a new genetic but so is the PB breathe and she’s rocking and rolling and where she should be development wise. Shit so is the platinum cake on that table which appears to be the same phenos as the ones under the fluence.

 

[Dr. Who]

6-17-19
My ph swings exactly like you said 5.7-6.1
Coco in 4 gallons
They get watered 1x daily to significant run off.
Roots temp I’ll have to check with my thermal gun

When I say fucked up cycle I mean fucked up cycle I’ve run flora flex for almost two years and had killer crops doing essentially what I’m doing now. Somewhere along the line I lost track of this strains requirements. It is a new genetic but so is the PB breathe and she’s rocking and rolling and where she should be development wise. Shit so is the platinum cake on that table which appears to be the same phenos as the ones under the fluence.

P and K are a bit high at 17 and 19!

You maybe getting an influence by the high conditions.....Kinda likely.
Makes me understand the 6 for N. That helps hold the P tox in check a bit.

"I" prefer an N value of 4 and maybe half of the 17 and 19. In fact I would drop the K to an even value with the P. Dropping it is due to the fact that elevated K will restrict THC production!

I no longer care for high K conditions late in bloom either....

In soil I run a bloom NPK of 4-6-6.... I up the K to about 10 from the flip to week 4 and drop it to the 6 I listed - till harvest. That K is in the form of K sulfate ONLY... I want the extra S for the terp's.....

 

[xtsho]

NEVER have I been a fan of Cal nitrate use. The nutrient maker is short cutting better N sources for more available Ca.

The thing is? Cal Carbonate makes a better Ca source for both the pH and the plant at the same time.

Up your Mg.... Mg sulfate at a rate of 5ml per gallon of feed works....

I use a home made product.
8TBL of organic Epson Salts
1 1/2 tsp of DARK brown sugar

to 1 gallon of RO water - Mix well and use at 5ml per gallon of feed

I've used Ca(NO3)2 for years. I agree that there are better sources of N but it really works good with coco due the Ca. But too much Ca can also be bad which is why I'm not a big fan of so much calmag use. It seems like many are just assuming they need calmag and are actually adding too much Ca. People are quick to add calmag when they don't even have a Ca deficiency. Then they wonder why their plants are showing P/K deficiencies. But it's because of too much Ca which is antagonistic with P/K.

I'm running the last of my calcium nitrate in the front yard with my landscape plants and flowers. Going forward I'm using other sources of nutrients as I wean myself off of the chemical salts. But I may keep a little for one more run of coco and blumats. I want to do one more grow for yield to make sure I have a good stash for backup. My transitioning to organic is proving to be more of a challenge than I had anticipated. Being the bonehead that I am I had to reinvent the wheel. I've had a couple of flats.

 

[Laughinggrass420]

I've used Ca(NO3)2 for years. I agree that there are better sources of N but it really works good with coco due the Ca. But too much Ca can also be bad which is why I'm not a big fan of so much calmag use. It seems like many are just assuming they need calmag and are actually adding too much Ca. People are quick to add calmag when they don't even have a Ca deficiency. Then they wonder why their plants are showing P/K deficiencies. But it's because of too much Ca which is antagonistic with P/K.

I'm running the last of my calcium nitrate in the front yard with my landscape plants and flowers. Going forward I'm using other sources of nutrients as I wean myself off of the chemical salts. But I may keep a little for one more run of coco and blumats. I want to do one more grow for yield to make sure I have a good stash for backup. My transitioning to organic is proving to be more of a challenge than I had anticipated. Being the bonehead that I am I had to reinvent the wheel. I've had a couple of flats.

Am I wrong in assuming I should be adding camg to my nutrients. I am running RO.

 

[Laughinggrass420]

I've used Ca(NO3)2 for years. I agree that there are better sources of N but it really works good with coco due the Ca. But too much Ca can also be bad which is why I'm not a big fan of so much calmag use. It seems like many are just assuming they need calmag and are actually adding too much Ca. People are quick to add calmag when they don't even have a Ca deficiency. Then they wonder why their plants are showing P/K deficiencies. But it's because of too much Ca which is antagonistic with P/K.

I'm running the last of my calcium nitrate in the front yard with my landscape plants and flowers. Going forward I'm using other sources of nutrients as I wean myself off of the chemical salts. But I may keep a little for one more run of coco and blumats. I want to do one more grow for yield to make sure I have a good stash for backup. My transitioning to organic is proving to be more of a challenge than I had anticipated. Being the bonehead that I am I had to reinvent the wheel. I've had a couple of flats.

Interesting. I agree the p and k are high. Some strains ha

P and K are a bit high at 17 and 19!

You maybe getting an influence by the high conditions.....Kinda likely.
Makes me understand the 6 for N. That helps hold the P tox in check a bit.

"I" prefer an N value of 4 and maybe half of the 17 and 19. In fact I would drop the K to an even value with the P. Dropping it is due to the fact that elevated K will restrict THC production!

I no longer care for high K conditions late in bloom either....

In soil I run a bloom NPK of 4-6-6.... I up the K to about 10 from the flip to week 4 and drop it to the 6 I listed - till harvest. That K is in the form of K sulfate ONLY... I want the extra S for the terp's.....

i stepped away for a day. Every farmer should get atleast 1 night off every six months.

I’ve just been limping through this cycle content with the imperfections at this point.

I think a combination of things are working against me.

all for the better. Here’s some photos end of week 5.
Guess I only took shots of the electric sky section as it’s putting the fluence to shame.

 

[Laughinggrass420]

P and K are a bit high at 17 and 19!

You maybe getting an influence by the high conditions.....Kinda likely.
Makes me understand the 6 for N. That helps hold the P tox in check a bit.

"I" prefer an N value of 4 and maybe half of the 17 and 19. In fact I would drop the K to an even value with the P. Dropping it is due to the fact that elevated K will restrict THC production!

I no longer care for high K conditions late in bloom either....

In soil I run a bloom NPK of 4-6-6.... I up the K to about 10 from the flip to week 4 and drop it to the 6 I listed - till harvest. That K is in the form of K sulfate ONLY... I want the extra S for the terp's.....

I've used Ca(NO3)2 for years. I agree that there are better sources of N but it really works good with coco due the Ca. But too much Ca can also be bad which is why I'm not a big fan of so much calmag use. It seems like many are just assuming they need calmag and are actually adding too much Ca. People are quick to add calmag when they don't even have a Ca deficiency. Then they wonder why their plants are showing P/K deficiencies. But it's because of too much Ca which is antagonistic with P/K.

I'm running the last of my calcium nitrate in the front yard with my landscape plants and flowers. Going forward I'm using other sources of nutrients as I wean myself off of the chemical salts. But I may keep a little for one more run of coco and blumats. I want to do one more grow for yield to make sure I have a good stash for backup. My transitioning to organic is proving to be more of a challenge than I had anticipated. Being the bonehead that I am I had to reinvent the wheel. I've had a couple of flats.

Found a seed under the fluence today.
last run I did in this roomwas all seed and a few hermiewonder if pollen from last run got me or stress

 

[Tyblizzy]

Raw has very good water sol calmag, 9 0 0

The man who know everything… like you said just cuz it 9-0-0@ full strength doesn’t mean you can’t use less

 

[Mrconnor1023]

I use a large co2 bag in a 5x5x6.5 tent. It puts out around 1300-1400 ppm. I also have an intense light that puts out 98164 lumens. So far so good!