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DIY-HP-LED said:
So, if the population of India is around 1.4 billion and they achieve herd immunity with say 1% ( most will be untreated) of the population dying, that would be 140 million dead. That's a lot of bodies to burn, considering that probably 200 million people die there every year from natural causes anyway. They should see a big increase in deaths this year and next, until people are vaccinated. Since many of the elderly an vulnerable will be gone already, the next few years should see a decrease in mortality.

If 30% of people who get covid are maimed in some way then it will be an even bigger disaster.
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1% of 1.4bn is 14 million
 
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captainmorgan said:
www.theglobeandmail.com

Infectious-disease scientists at Canada’s high-security lab collaborated with China

Seven scientists at the National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg and Chinese military researchers have conducted experiments and co-authored six studies on infectious diseases
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All major labs in the world work with each other. North Carolina worked with Wuhan's Bat Lady on.

SARS-like virus in bats shows potential to infect humans, study finds
By Helen Branswell Nov. 9, 2015

Viruses that are related to SARS and that are found in some species of bats could become a source of future human outbreaks, according to a new study released Monday. And it appears that there are fewer barriers to that spillover than scientists initially thought.

Researchers at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill said a virus in the same family as SARS — severe acute respiratory syndrome — appears to be able to infect human respiratory tract cells. The finding came as a surprise because the team thought the virus would have had to go through a process known as adaptation — meaning it would have had to acquire the ability to infect human cells by first learning how to infect the cells of another mammal.

It’s believed that is how SARS went from being a bat virus to a major international outbreak that infected 8,400 people in 2003, killing at least 916 of them. In the case of SARS, the virus was probably passed from bats to palm civets and from palm civets to people.

The new study was published in the journal Nature Medicine.

The UNC scientists wanted to see if cousin viruses — coronaviruses that are carried by Chinese horseshoe bats — also posed a threat to people. They used one, SHC014, as a representative of the group.

They inserted a key part of the virus, its spike protein, into a SARS virus and then ran experiments to see if the hybrid virus could infect human respiratory tract cells (in a dish) and mice that were vulnerable to the SARS virus.

It did.

“I think the existence of viruses that can jump directly is the important part, that was unanticipated,” lead author Vineet Menachery, who researches viral immunology, told STAT in an interview.

“Based on what was known in the literature, we would have expected that viruses coming out of bats would have needed that one-in-million mutation.”

Another coronavirus expert, Dr. Stanley Perlman at the University of Iowa, suggested the paper was a useful investigation. But he noted the hybrid virus was attenuated — weakened — and said the virus would probably need to adapt more in people before it could spread widely.

He and his co-authors noted they had to stop some of their work because of US government policies. The US has a moratorium on so-called gain-of-function research, which includes some research that enhances the ability of a pathogen such as a virus to infect people or spread among them.

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SARS-like virus in bats shows potential to infect humans, study finds

A cousin of the SARS coronavirus appears to be able to infect human respiratory tract cells — which came as a surprise to the scientists who tested the bat virus.
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So, did Americans back in 2015 (actually earlier as that was the date the paper was released) make the virus we now have?
 
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captainmorgan said:
It's all way under counted, they are finding unknown mass graves and the rivers are being used to dispose of the bodies and like you say how many undocumented cremations.
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dead bodies in the rivers? that's going to mess up their potable water system..although everything that's drained from mortuary goes right down the drain and into the water system. i found that to be very gross and told my professor i can't believe that's legal. apparently is.
 
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schuylaar said:
dead bodies in the rivers? that's going to mess up their potable water system..although everything that's drained from mortuary goes right down the drain and into the water system. i found that to be very gross and told my professor i can't believe that's legal. apparently is.
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Hindus are cremated and the ashes scattered in the holy Ganges river, if they have no money for cremation, then they are buried on the river banks or simply tossed into the river. 80% of India are Hindus and they are cremated, the 200 million Muslims are buried. In addition many Hindus who live abroad are cremated and have their ashes scattered in the Ganges river.
 
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schuylaar said:
nothing better than a man that can see his error and apologize- it has to go together though.
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Hey I fuck up all the time and I hope too for sometime to come! I was bouncing around between housework and getting ready for yard work etc. Not paying enough attention to what I was writing.
 
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DIY-HP-LED said:
So, if the population of India is around 1.4 billion and they achieve herd immunity with say 1% ( most will be untreated) of the population dying, that would be 140 million dead. That's a lot of bodies to burn, considering that probably 200 million people die there every year from natural causes anyway. They should see a big increase in deaths this year and next, until people are vaccinated. Since many of the elderly an vulnerable will be gone already, the next few years should see a decrease in mortality.

If 30% of people who get covid are maimed in some way then it will be an even bigger disaster.

Edit: Brain fart, 14 million dead, not 140 million dead @ 1% mortality and 20 million a year not 200 million! :lol:
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Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission | Science (sciencemag.org)

Face masks effectively limit the probability of SARS-CoV-2 transmission

Abstract
Airborne transmission by droplets and aerosols is important for the spread of viruses. Face masks are a well-established preventive measure, but their effectiveness for mitigating SARS-CoV-2 transmission is still under debate. We show that variations in mask efficacy can be explained by different regimes of virus abundance and related to population-average infection probability and reproduction number. For SARS-CoV-2, the viral load of infectious individuals can vary by orders of magnitude. We find that most environments and contacts are under conditions of low virus abundance (virus-limited) where surgical masks are effective at preventing virus spread. More advanced masks and other protective equipment are required in potentially virus-rich indoor environments including medical centers and hospitals. Masks are particularly effective in combination with other preventive measures like ventilation and distancing.
 
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